New DT Live Album/DVD?

[bobs23]

They may have wanted to shoot in SA, but with the extra cost of all the payola that has to happen for an American band to shoot there, they would have to think long and hard about that.

[Shadow2222]

Does anybody see any date other than the Huntington ones being the DVD show? With Huntington, they have two nights to get material and easily edit it together as if it were one Evening With show.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Yeah, maybe that was a budget problem.

[KevShmev]

Oh, totally, but that's logistics for you. They'll be every bit as conscious of that as we are - they recorded the bleeding things. Life is what happens to you when you're busy making plans.

at the John Lennon quote.

[lyfeternl]

I am praying for a similar live DVD/Blu-ray comparable to Budokan. That show plus the added bonus features made for an amazing experience and enjoyable watch. I have literally made it a night event to watch the entire Live at Budokan 3-hour performance and I would love another live album/concert to grace my collection. 

If the location of the recording is leaked, a plane ticket and concert ticket will be purchased. 

[Another_Won]

Does anybody see any date other than the Huntington ones being the DVD show? With Huntington, they have two nights to get material and easily edit it together as if it were one Evening With show.

Yeah, I think this really make the most sense.

[lyfeternl]

Does anybody see any date other than the Huntington ones being the DVD show? With Huntington, they have two nights to get material and easily edit it together as if it were one Evening With show.

Yeah, I think this really make the most sense.

But that'd mean they'd have to wear the same clothes two nights in a row... The last time I checked, they're out of college

[Shadow2222]

Does anybody see any date other than the Huntington ones being the DVD show? With Huntington, they have two nights to get material and easily edit it together as if it were one Evening With show.

Yeah, I think this really make the most sense.

But that'd mean they'd have to wear the same clothes two nights in a row... The last time I checked, they're out of college

I should rephrase, as what I mean is that they will simply use the two nights to get enough material to be comparable to the previous DVDs. I don't think they will be trying to fool anyone into thinking they did an Evening With show.

[BlobVanDam]

Does anybody see any date other than the Huntington ones being the DVD show? With Huntington, they have two nights to get material and easily edit it together as if it were one Evening With show.

Yeah, I think this really make the most sense.

But that'd mean they'd have to wear the same clothes two nights in a row... The last time I checked, they're out of college

John Myung wearing the same thing two nights in a row? Not in my Dream Theater!

[Shadow2222]

^  I still want to see him wear those green pants from the I&W dvd.

[Progmetty]

I posted this the other week in the New York shows thread at C&S section but it seems like the wrong place to post it.
Talking about the July 18/19 NY show, these are going to be the DVD shows imo and I'm so glad they chose NY for them.
Considering JP is probably going to manage the set lists; I think both nights are going to have 70% similar songs and of course that pays off for the editing and the montage of the final product, and I expect the couple extra songs to be bonus footage on the DVD. I prefer that approach, just like I prefer JP's fixed set lists with minor rotations, it's fair and establishes performance perfection.
I say DVD but I actually want a BluRay and I want it to the standard of the Porcupine Tree's Anesthetize BluRay in terms of audio and video quality, superb audio mixing and surround features. I want the direction and the editing to be similar to that of Budokhan DVD.
I'd also like a documentary that features a tour of the set and how the idea for the 3 cubes came together, the videos that play with each song, etc.
I want multi angle camera options on BiTS, Outcry, BAI and at least 2 more songs.
I'd like to have subtitles but it's not a make or break feature.
And last but not least I want the artwork to be connected to that of ADToE and I want the DVD to include all ADToE songs that was played on this tour. I just really want that release to mark and document this great era that I'm enjoying so much.

[SystematicThought]

But that'd mean they'd have to wear the same clothes two nights in a row... The last time I checked, they're out of college

Last time I checked, they wear black every night. Which would be nice if they switched up colors.

[Shadow2222]

The only bummer is that every U.S. one-show DVD has been filmed in New York (the state, not city). True, they are very different venues, but I would love to see them shoot a DVD somewhere else (even if it is in the U.S.).

[lyfeternl]

But that'd mean they'd have to wear the same clothes two nights in a row... The last time I checked, they're out of college

Last time I checked, they wear black every night. Which would be nice if they switched up colors.

A dark gray would be nice...

I just know that the OCD in me would be bothered if I could tell that songs were spliced from different nights. Though, I suppose they could try to pull it off as a mid-set wardrobe change.

[robwebster]

Does anybody see any date other than the Huntington ones being the DVD show? With Huntington, they have two nights to get material and easily edit it together as if it were one Evening With show.

Yeah, I think this really make the most sense.

But that'd mean they'd have to wear the same clothes two nights in a row... The last time I checked, they're out of college

I think, 25 years into their career, they can afford two matching sets of clothes. q:

They'd have to combine two gigs to make up the same length as LaB, Score and Chaos in Motion, anyway, seeing as this isn't an Evening With tour. Chaos in Motion wasn't, either, but the tracklist was still longer than a normal one-set gig, and that's with extra interview footage padding it out.

Two-nighter, using both setlists, combining them for DVD. Almost a cert, I'd have thought.

[lyfeternl]

Does anybody see any date other than the Huntington ones being the DVD show? With Huntington, they have two nights to get material and easily edit it together as if it were one Evening With show.

Yeah, I think this really make the most sense.

But that'd mean they'd have to wear the same clothes two nights in a row... The last time I checked, they're out of college

I think, 25 years into their career, they can afford two matching sets of clothes. q:

They'd have to combine two gigs to make up the same length as LaB, Score and Chaos in Motion, anyway, seeing as this isn't an Evening With tour. Chaos in Motion wasn't, either, but the tracklist was still longer than a normal one-set gig, and that's with extra interview footage padding it out.

Two-nighter, using both setlists, combining them for DVD. Almost a cert, I'd have thought.

Well, JP said "show" so perhaps some lucky fans get to experience an Evening With performance for the Blu-ray/DVD.

[robwebster]

Yep, totally possible! But given they've already announced a two-night stand at one venue, and they've got an alternating setlist going on, I think there's at least a 90% chance that they'll combine two performances in the edit suite.

[Shadow2222]

Now the question is (assuming the Huntington shows are the DVD shows), will there be any surprises, or just a Set A, Set B two night stand?

[lyfeternl]

Or, they are recording each night and using the best one out of the two 

Either way, we're all getting a live Blu-ray/DVD for this tour/album and I am pretty stoked about it! 

[SystematicThought]

If you really want to tear your hair out at a horribly made Concert DVD, go watch Van Halen's: Live Right Here, Right Now. That was filmed over two nights and in the middle of a verse, Sammy's clothes will change and then the next lyric, his clothes change again.

Once you notice it, you won't NOT notice www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYbJnGOhOqw&feature=relmfu

[Kotowboy]

Same thing with guitars on Live Shit. They change during the same shot. That's some bad editing, Harry.

[wasteland]

Now the question is (assuming the Huntington shows are the DVD shows), will there be any surprises, or just a Set A, Set B two night stand?

I would love if they were to stuff one of the two nights with the (best) songs played in the previous leg, and the second night with the standard NA setlist (which is still undisclosed and will probably be quite different from what we got in Europe). Or maybe vice versa.

Either way, I feel that this double night just screams at songs like TCOT, Ytse Jam, The Great Debate to be played, together with some key songs from ADTOE that will not make the standard setlist (eg. suppose they don't drop the acoustic set: BTS and TSM could go in the standard ADTOE setlist and WFS/FFH find some space in the first night).

[Tomislav95]

I would like to see Caught in a Web rather than anything.

[Setlist Scotty]

If you really want to tear your hair out at a horribly made Concert DVD, go watch Van Halen's: Live Right Here, Right Now. That was filmed over two nights and in the middle of a verse, Sammy's clothes will change and then the next lyric, his clothes change again.

Once you notice it, you won't NOT notice www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYbJnGOhOqw&feature=relmfu

Wow! That is really bad! Did they not have enough camera angles each night so they didn't have to flop between nights? I mean, if the audio is taken from one night, why do you need to use any video from the other night? That's pretty inexcusable - even if his shirt changed between songs, OK, but from angle to angle? Ugh!

[SystematicThought]

Well, according to Hagar in his book, the live album and audio for the DVD was re-recorded in studio. Sammy's vocals are re-recorded because they were out of sync once the audio was recorded again. So that live release wasn't very "live" to begin with. Why not mess with it some more? 

[chrisbDTM]

i wonder if the new DVD will start with the familiar words of "home sweet home long island"

[OsMosis2259]

We have a DVD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMelewSIOA&feature=youtu.be

[wolfandwolfandwolf]

All you had to do was read this page to know it.

[RaiseTheKnife]

My first impulse was that the DVD would be filmed at the Majestic in Texas, just because the venue is beautiful, historic and the name is DTish.  Again, just a knee-jerk thought.  But reading the Huntington arguments makes me consider it as a strong possibility.  Unfortuantely, Long Island is such a hassle for me to travel to. 

Be nice if they taped it in LA, which is a convenient city for equipment and crew.

[The Letter M]

Well, if MM is right, they will be playing some NEW songs on the upcoming NA Leg of the tour, so I think we can expect all the same ADTOE songs, rotated between 2 nights, as well as a good chunk of the songs of from the European tour.

I think, anticipating filming a show, they've decided to add songs that haven't been released on LSFNY/LAB/SCORE/CIM, which would be good! I'd like to see them film BOTH shows, make one night the main show (Set A), and then the alternate tracks on the other night as bonus tracks (Set B), but mix both shows into one track list for the 3-CD set, maybe with some European-only songs as extras, especially if they take out songs like "6:00" and "The Root Of All Evil".

-Marc.

[RaiseTheKnife]

Would not be surprised to see the second night at the Paramount feature an entire run through of Images and Words for the DVD.

Would be disappointed if this is what MM meant by new songs.  Hoping for "Lost Not Forgotten" to make an appearance on this leg.

[ResultsMayVary]

What if they record both nights at the New York dates and play two different setlists. Each setlist will have it's far share of ADTOE songs and once both shows are recorded, we could have the entire ADTOE album along with just over a show's worth of older tunes. Kind of like an Evening With setup, using night 1 as set 1 and night 2 as set 2. Ultimately, this would create a 4.5-5 hour show overall, but man, that would be so legit. Both sets would have to have major differences and no repeating tracks, which is possible, but rather unlikely.

[Setlist Scotty]

Would not be surprised to see the second night at the Paramount feature an entire run through of Images and Words for the DVD.

While not out of the realm of possibility, I find it highly unlikely, considering that they just did the 15th anniversary of the album and released it as a fan club CD 5 years ago. If anything, maybe they'd take that recording and re-release it under Ytsejam Records as was done with the Making of FII.

[RaiseTheKnife]

While not out of the realm of possibility, I find it highly unlikely, considering that they just did the 15th anniversary of the album and released it as a fan club CD 5 years ago. If anything, maybe they'd take that recording and re-release it under Ytsejam Records as was done with the Making of FII.

I said the exact same thing Scotty when this subject first came about, but when I add the probable pieces (two night stand, DVD, 30th anniversary) I find it more likely than I did before.

Personally, it would not excite me, so I'm not cheerleading it, just have a slight gut feeling.

[robwebster]

Not saying you're wrong here, Raise the Knife, but I personally think it's really unlikely. Looking at it another way...

a. They did it two tours ago. They're not going to take a chunk out of their setlist every other tour 'cos one of their albums is getting five years older.
b. Mike Portnoy - who was the main one who kept track of that kind of thing - isn't in the band any more.
c. They've got ten albums now, so it's pretty much constantly going to be some album's anniversary. Honestly, it's not that big a deal.
d. They've played the songs from Images and Words a lot. As in, at least one most nights for the last 20 years. They get loads of rotation anyway, it's not like it needs the extra reach.
e. They've already dedicated a DVD to Images and Words. It's called Images and Words Live in Tokyo, and contains almost the entire album. Learning to Live and Metropolis appear on Metropolis 2000 and Score respectively.

Most importantly, though...

f. They've just gone through a massive change, the kind of change that could kill other bands, and come out the other side of it with one of the most critically and publically acclaimed albums of their career. I really can't see them using half of a DVD dedicated to the brave new era of Dream Theater to say "hey, wasn't that album from the early nineties kinda cool?"

I could see them playing it in other cities, sure - they might do it in South America, as a little treat for the audiences there... but I can't see them putting it onto a DVD, I'm afraid.