Marco Minnemann on DT

[missedthepoint]

I should probably reply to this since I am the origin of the "Pez" nickname. In Geman we have an idiom that's called "to lean out of the window" (not sure if there is an equivalent in English) that essentially means if you're doing something 'questionable' (in the wider sense) you shouldn't be surprised of the dangers involved (one of the dangers being ridicule). All the drummers except Aquiles/Pez were very personable, nice guys who showed up in their normal outfit to showcase their drumming. Only Aquiles stood out to me as someone who was buying a little bit too much into the whole metal image. His outfit was all pitch-black, he wore black gloves for drumming, the whole nine yards. So, if you do that, you shouldn't be surprised if people make fun of you a bit. And judging by the fact that it caught on, I guess I'm not the only person who thought that. Besides, "Pez" isn't really that bad a nickname.

rumborak

Exactly how does AP look any different in the DT audition than he does in any of his other vids?
He's wearing a Paiste t-shirt with a white skull and drumstick motif. Very  similar to shirts he wore in other vids so i'd say it was his regular outfit. Drum shirt, shorts and drum gloves, check. Looks like a drummer to me.
And those black gloves are Ahead drumming gloves which, to my knowledge, only come in one style.
I fail to see how any of these things deserve ridicule. If they do then why not pick on Wildoer for giving the metal horns?
He also seemed very personable in that and other vids imo, his apology for his mistake at the end of The Dance of Eternity has me convinced of that.
To be honest i think your attitude towards him is a little beneath you, and having been on the receiving of similar and worse from a certain type of people with a very judgmental attitude towards anyone or anything different, it makes me a little uncomfortable.
I suppose the word Pez isn't that bad of a nickname but it's origin makes it insulting.

/rant

[Jaffa]

Would 'generic-looking metal drummer' be less offensive?  Because that's all the nickname means, and it seems pretty accurate to me. 

[Unimatrix]

I don't care how he looks, I think this guy can play drums! 

[lyfeternl]

Metal Pez makes me think of candy. Who doesn't like candy...? 

[missedthepoint]

I don't care how he looks, I think this guy can play drums! 

Metal Pez makes me think of candy. Who doesn't like candy...? 

Aww how sweet 

[ZirconBlue]

Would 'generic-looking metal drummer' be less offensive?  Because that's all the nickname means, and it seems pretty accurate to me.

Not really.  The other 6 drummers that auditioned get called by their actual names (or initials).  Why doesn't AP deserve the same respect?

[rumborak]

What's with the need to show utmost respect on a Dream Theater discussion forum, to some random Brazilian drummer who is marginally connected to Dream Theater?
Jesus Christ, it's a joke, nothing more, nothing less. But, just so that you don't get the runs from this altercation, here's nicknames for all of them:

Mike Mangini: Mangina
Thomas Lang: The Auditionator
Marco Minnemann: FU-DT
Virgil Donati: I wash at zhe audishion
Peter Wildoer: Fabio on Drums
Derek Roddy: Motherfucking Snakes on my Drumkit!
Aquiles Priester: Metal Pez

rumborak

[GunsOfThePatriots]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itaCCB4p-MU

[lithium112]

Derek Roddy: Motherfucking Snakes on my Drumkit!

[antigoon]

What's with the need to show utmost respect on a Dream Theater discussion forum, to some random Brazilian drummer who is marginally connected to Dream Theater?
Jesus Christ, it's a joke, nothing more, nothing less. But, just so that you don't get the runs from this altercation, here's nicknames for all of them:

Mike Mangini: Mangina
Thomas Lang: The Auditionator
Marco Minnemann: FU-DT
Virgil Donati: I wash at zhe audishion
Peter Wildoer: Fabio on Drums
Derek Roddy: Motherfucking Snakes on my Drumkit!
Aquiles Priester: Metal Pez

rumborak

Please never leave here

[tristl]

What's with the need to show utmost respect on a Dream Theater discussion forum, to some random Brazilian drummer who is marginally connected to Dream Theater?
Jesus Christ, it's a joke, nothing more, nothing less. But, just so that you don't get the runs from this altercation, here's nicknames for all of them:

Mike Mangini: Mangina
Thomas Lang: The Auditionator
Marco Minnemann: FU-DT
Virgil Donati: I wash at zhe audishion
Peter Wildoer: Fabio on Drums
Derek Roddy: Motherfucking Snakes on my Drumkit!
Aquiles Priester: Metal Pez

rumborak

and there are people out there who say germans do not have a sense of humor

[Bertielee]

What's with the need to show utmost respect on a Dream Theater discussion forum, to some random Brazilian drummer who is marginally connected to Dream Theater?
Jesus Christ, it's a joke, nothing more, nothing less. But, just so that you don't get the runs from this altercation, here's nicknames for all of them:

Mike Mangini: Mangina
Thomas Lang: The Auditionator
Marco Minnemann: FU-DT
Virgil Donati: I wash at zhe audishion
Peter Wildoer: Fabio on Drums
Derek Roddy: Motherfucking Snakes on my Drumkit!
Aquiles Priester: Metal Pez

rumborak

Rumby, you're crazy, that's why we love you!

B.Lee

[02T]

What's with the need to show utmost respect on a Dream Theater discussion forum, to some random Brazilian drummer who is marginally connected to Dream Theater?
Jesus Christ, it's a joke, nothing more, nothing less. But, just so that you don't get the runs from this altercation, here's nicknames for all of them:

Mike Mangini: Mangina
Thomas Lang: The Auditionator
Marco Minnemann: FU-DT
Virgil Donati: I wash at zhe audishion
Peter Wildoer: Fabio on Drums
Derek Roddy: Motherfucking Snakes on my Drumkit!
Aquiles Priester: Metal Pez

rumborak

Please never leave here

This times 8 bazillion and 4

[ZirconBlue]

What's with the need to show utmost respect on a Dream Theater discussion forum, to some random Brazilian drummer who is marginally connected to Dream Theater?

Personally, I try to be respectful of people, in general (unless they show themselves unworthy through their actions).  But, maybe that's just me.  I just keep thinking about how awesome it was when Peter Wildoer joined the forum and was made to feel welcome, and then imagining if, instead, he'd come here to find he'd been labeled with infantile nicknames.


Priester clearly wasn't the right guy for DT, but he acquitted himself pretty well, and he certainly seems much cooler and worthy of respect than, say, Derek Roddy.
 

[lyfeternl]

What's with the need to show utmost respect on a Dream Theater discussion forum, to some random Brazilian drummer who is marginally connected to Dream Theater?
Jesus Christ, it's a joke, nothing more, nothing less. But, just so that you don't get the runs from this altercation, here's nicknames for all of them:

Mike Mangini: Mangina
Thomas Lang: The Auditionator
Marco Minnemann: FU-DT
Virgil Donati: I wash at zhe audishion
Peter Wildoer: Fabio on Drums
Derek Roddy: Motherfucking Snakes on my Drumkit!
Aquiles Priester: Metal Pez

rumborak

Virgil's and Derek's 

[rumborak]

Personally, I try to be respectful of people, in general (unless they show themselves unworthy through their actions).  But, maybe that's just me.  I just keep thinking about how awesome it was when Peter Wildoer joined the forum and was made to feel welcome, and then imagining if, instead, he'd come here to find he'd been labeled with infantile nicknames.

Sure, but on the other hand, maybe it wouldn't be too bad for him to realize how he comes across publicly to some people? We are certainly prime target audience for his music, but quite a few of us feel he's crossing the line to tackiness too much. That doesn't mean he should change, but it might simply be something he's not aware of. I also would hope he's internet-savvy enough that he's not checking online forums to see his feelings handled with satin gloves.

rumborak

[Riceball]

Thomas Lang: The Auditionator

Outstanding.

[Metabog]

- (woops, double posted)

[Metabog]

Well that was really lame of DT if it's true, and it probably is. I don't get all the people flaming Marco, he was clearly annoyed by this, and I would have been, in fact I'd make sure everyone hears about it so the don't fall for the same thing.

[BlobVanDam]

Yeah, I'd hate for anyone else to fall into the same trap of getting an all expenses paid (and then some) one-time opportunity to audition for a big prog metal band, and free exposure. I really feel for the guy.

[Hprog]

Yeah, I'd hate for anyone else to fall into the same trap of getting an all expensives paid (and then some) one-time opportunity to audition for a big prog metal band, and free exposure. I really feel for the guy.

+1 

[ZirconBlue]

Personally, I try to be respectful of people, in general (unless they show themselves unworthy through their actions).  But, maybe that's just me.  I just keep thinking about how awesome it was when Peter Wildoer joined the forum and was made to feel welcome, and then imagining if, instead, he'd come here to find he'd been labeled with infantile nicknames.

Sure, but on the other hand, maybe it wouldn't be too bad for him to realize how he comes across publicly to some people? We are certainly prime target audience for his music, but quite a few of us feel he's crossing the line to tackiness too much. That doesn't mean he should change, but it might simply be something he's not aware of. I also would hope he's internet-savvy enough that he's not checking online forums to see his feelings handled with satin gloves.

rumborak

Leather gloves, surely?

[DreamTheaterMM]

It's funny how everyone is taking DT's side, calling Marco a whiner and whatnot. Not really surprising though.

I agree.  Absolutely astonishing that the folks on Dreamtheaterforums.org would take DT's side. 

This sums it up best:

Er, no one held a gun to this guy's head and made him audition.  If he didn't like the idea of the documentary, then he shouldn't have taken part in the audition.  Simple as that.  He can talk about the unwritten gentleman's agreement all he wants, but if he signed something that gave them the right to use him in it, then it is his own fault.  No one forced him to sign anything. 

Called an album title 5 years before release 
Very ASTONISHING....

[fischermasamune]

And in italicized text. A pun 5 years ahead of its time. I was speechless watching that comment.