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DT Nominated for a Grammy Award!

Started by Samsara, November 30, 2011, 08:23:30 PM

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Zook

I thought they only played the song if they already won or something. I don't know, I've never watched the Grammy's.

slycordinator

Quote from: Zook on December 15, 2011, 08:52:14 AM
I thought they only played the song if they already won or something. I don't know, I've never watched the Grammy's.
Nope. As alluded to earlier, Metallica lost to Jethro Tull for the "Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental" in 1989. And they were one of the performers that night.

Zook

The Jethro Tull song came out way earlier right? Like 10 or 15 years? Can't remember the details. That page was ripped out of my mental encyclopedia.

KevShmev

No, it was for the Tull album Crest of a Knave, which was released in late '87 and IS a good album. 

Zook


1neeto

Hmmm why would DT move their tour dates just to attend the grammy's? Especially when there's very little chance they will win. I think it very possible they're gonna perform!

elizaalltiedup

Quote from: 1neeto on December 15, 2011, 12:12:10 PM
Hmmm why would DT move their tour dates just to attend the grammy's? Especially when there's very little chance they will win. I think it very possible they're gonna perform!

Just being nominated seems to mean a lot to them, since they've never been before. Personally, if I was in their position, I'd want to rearrange my schedule so I could attend, even if I knew I wasn't going to win, just for the sake of being there as a nominee.

theseoafs

They are NOT going to perform. That is 100% certain.

Zook

Quote from: theseoafs on December 15, 2011, 03:20:47 PM
They are NOT going to perform. That is 100% certain.

WE WANT INFORMATION
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Orbert

He's the seoafs, and he's 100% certain.  Come on, pay attention!

theseoafs

Quote from: Orbert on December 15, 2011, 03:35:15 PM
He's the seoafs, and he's 100% certain.  Come on, pay attention!
Supposed to be read "these oafs"; it's funny to me that you went the other way.

But, yes, my knowledge isn't based on any Prisoner-style information, but it's just common sense to me. This is DT's first nomination. DT isn't a popular band among the Grammys' attenders. DT doesn't have any easily digestible short songs (that are truly DT in style, anyway), and it's mostly sugar-coated pop bands and the more popular rock bands that are invited to play anyway. Bands usually have their concert schedules determined several months in advance, and I sincerely doubt DT wouldn't already know about it if the folks at the Grammys were planning to invite DT to play.

What I mean to say when I express my 100% certainty is that it just doesn't make any sense for them to be performing. It is not a strange thing that DT are attending just because they were nominated, as suggested above.

Instead of saying "It is 100% certain that DT will not play", I should say "If DT performs at the Grammys, I will take a video of myself eating my underwear and wire the contents of my bank account to Hef".

Zook

Quote from: theseoafs on December 15, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Orbert on December 15, 2011, 03:35:15 PM
He's the seoafs, and he's 100% certain.  Come on, pay attention!
Supposed to be read "these oafs"; it's funny to me that you went the other way.

But, yes, my knowledge isn't based on any Prisoner-style information, but it's just common sense to me. This is DT's first nomination. DT isn't a popular band among the Grammys' attenders. DT doesn't have any easily digestible short songs (that are truly DT in style, anyway), and it's mostly sugar-coated pop bands and the more popular rock bands that are invited to play anyway. Bands usually have their concert schedules determined several months in advance, and I sincerely doubt DT wouldn't already know about it if the folks at the Grammys were planning to invite DT to play.

What I mean to say when I express my 100% certainty is that it just doesn't make any sense for them to be performing. It is not a strange thing that DT are attending just because they were nominated, as suggested above.

Instead of saying "It is 100% certain that DT will not play", I should say "If DT performs at the Grammys, I will take a video of myself eating my underwear and wire the contents of my bank account to Hef".

Hef said he wasn't interested, and to wire it to me instead.

Orbert

Quote from: theseoafs on December 15, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Orbert on December 15, 2011, 03:35:15 PM
He's the seoafs, and he's 100% certain.  Come on, pay attention!
Supposed to be read "these oafs"; it's funny to me that you went the other way.

But, yes, my knowledge isn't based on any Prisoner-style information, but it's just common sense to me. This is DT's first nomination. DT isn't a popular band among the Grammys' attenders. DT doesn't have any easily digestible short songs (that are truly DT in style, anyway), and it's mostly sugar-coated pop bands and the more popular rock bands that are invited to play anyway. Bands usually have their concert schedules determined several months in advance, and I sincerely doubt DT wouldn't already know about it if the folks at the Grammys were planning to invite DT to play.

What I mean to say when I express my 100% certainty is that it just doesn't make any sense for them to be performing. It is not a strange thing that DT are attending just because they were nominated, as suggested above.

Instead of saying "It is 100% certain that DT will not play", I should say "If DT performs at the Grammys, I will take a video of myself eating my underwear and wire the contents of my bank account to Hef".

I read it as "the seoafs" for a long time, figuring that a seaof is just something I'd never heard of, and I shouldn't worry about it.  At some point I parsed it again and got "these oafs", but I figured I'd take a jab at you and your 100% certainty just for the hell of it.   Mostly to get a reaction and explanation from you (which worked - ha!) just in case you actually know somebody in the biz and that's why you were 100% certain.  We do have people around here who personally know members of DT, Rush, etc.

I agree that it doesn't make any sense that they'd be asked to play, but I don't know jack about what's popular.  Last year Arcade Fire both played and won, and I'd never heard of them, but I just figured they were some band I'd never heard of.  Turns out that more than a few people went "Who?" but again, I wouldn't know.


bosk1

Well, some people never heard of arsenic either.  They thumbed their nose at the "arsenic cocktails" handed to them at the party that fateful night, and drank deeply, thinking, "eh, it's nothing I've ever heard of, so why worry about it?"  Sadly, that was one of the last thoughts they had.  Beware the Seoaf!  Bewaaaaaaaare!

theseoafs

Quote from: bosk1 on December 15, 2011, 04:55:06 PM
Well, some people never heard of arsenic either.  They thumbed their nose at the "arsenic cocktails" handed to them at the party that fateful night, and drank deeply, thinking, "eh, it's nothing I've ever heard of, so why worry about it?"  Sadly, that was one of the last thoughts they had.  Beware the Seoaf!  Bewaaaaaaaare!
Yeah, man, you took the words right out of my mouth.

ZirconBlue

Quote from: bosk1 on December 15, 2011, 04:55:06 PM
Well, some people never heard of arsenic either.  They thumbed their nose at the "arsenic cocktails" handed to them at the party that fateful night, and drank deeply, thinking, "eh, it's nothing I've ever heard of, so why worry about it?"  Sadly, that was one of the last thoughts they had.  Beware the Seoaf!  Bewaaaaaaaare!


Come on!  Arsenic can't be bad for you.  It's 100% Natural!

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

theseoafs

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on December 16, 2011, 03:35:33 PM
*hopes for a wired bank account*
At this point, it's up to DT.

However, this thought did occur to me today. Anyone who wants to determine the likelihood of DT playing at the Grammys can do so very easily with a bit of detective work (though I'm not going to do it myself because I'm already certain they're not going to play).

If DT were invited to play at the Grammys just now (which is, again, not a likelihood in my view), it's likely they were asked to play at the same time that a bunch of other bands were asked to play. Let's assume that this is the case. With that assumption in place, we also assume that this year is not an anomaly, and that invitations to play at the Grammys are usually given at this time of year. So, bands -- who, once again, determine their concert schedules several months in advance -- who are invited should be cancelling February shows in December as well.

SO: If someone found a few examples of bands that A) played at the Grammys in the last couple years, B) were supposed to be on tour that winter, and C) cancelled the shows on or around the date of the Grammys in the preceding December, this would be evidence for DT's playing at the Grammys (though not proof of it). Meanwhile, if no examples of this are able to be found, we can assume that our initial premise -- that bands are usually invited to play at the Grammys in December -- was faulty, that bands are usually given enough advance notice to schedule their tours when they play the Grammys, and that DT are genuinely just there to attend the ceremony as nominees.

If someone wants to take that train of thought somewhere and dig up some articles, we'd have some more convincing evidence, but, again, I sincerely doubt they'll be playing. It's just a ridiculous thought to me.

lonestar

If by some snowballs chance in hell they do play, where and how would they cut the song, they obviously couldn't play all 8+ minutes of it, that would lose half the viewership.

JayOctavarium

Well... first off all they could cut some of the final repeated chorus that never seems to end

Nihil-Morari

AAAAAAAA Riiiiitte of Passsaaaagggee.



Oh wait, it's the other single.

I'd love them to perform, but on the other hand I'd just love them to just sit there as well. Looking badass, watching Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber perform, and just smirking and glancing to each other.

hefdaddy42

If they perform (which I agree is unlikely), I would imagine it would be the entire song.  The whole song is nominated, not an edited version.  It's a long broadcast, there will be room.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

KevShmev

I suspect they are going for the event of it all and maybe to schmooze a bit with other musicians, perhaps ones they haven't met before, as well as music critics and others in the industry.  It's never a bad thing to make yourself known to more people in the industry.  :tup :tup

WindMaster

Quote from: theseoafs on December 15, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Orbert on December 15, 2011, 03:35:15 PM
He's the seoafs, and he's 100% certain.  Come on, pay attention!
Supposed to be read "these oafs"; it's funny to me that you went the other way.

But, yes, my knowledge isn't based on any Prisoner-style information, but it's just common sense to me. This is DT's first nomination. DT isn't a popular band among the Grammys' attenders. DT doesn't have any easily digestible short songs (that are truly DT in style, anyway), and it's mostly sugar-coated pop bands and the more popular rock bands that are invited to play anyway. Bands usually have their concert schedules determined several months in advance, and I sincerely doubt DT wouldn't already know about it if the folks at the Grammys were planning to invite DT to play.

What I mean to say when I express my 100% certainty is that it just doesn't make any sense for them to be performing. It is not a strange thing that DT are attending just because they were nominated, as suggested above.

Instead of saying "It is 100% certain that DT will not play", I should say "If DT performs at the Grammys, I will take a video of myself eating my underwear and wire the contents of my bank account to Hef".

Not to mention that they have a fuckton of gear to haul in there.

XB0BX

Some people have their heads in the clouds. It's unfortunate, but the idea of a progressive metal band playing a song (let alone a full 8-minute song like some have suggested) is ludicrous. It would never happen. Some people must not be familiar with what the Grammys actually are.

DarkLord_Lalinc


antigoon

I will kill myself if they perform at the Grammys.

tjanuranus

They would probably perform BMUMBD because it's shorter and radio friendly.

theseoafs

Quote from: antigoon on December 17, 2011, 01:55:21 PM
I will kill myself if they perform at the Grammys.
A commitment far more interesting than mine, I think.

Millais

I don't want to take this off topic:


but as the reply below says, this makes me happy.  :)

antigoon

thanks for letting us know how many responded michael.

BlobVanDam

He didn't need to mention how many responded, because it's completely irrelevant at this stage. I think a public congratulations from the start (without any backhanded additions) would have done wonders.

Implode

@MP :facepalm:  :facepalm:

But I can't imagine how awesome it'd be if DT got to perform. I don't see it happening, but it'd be so great.

LCArenas

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 17, 2011, 11:10:44 PM
He didn't need to mention how many responded, because it's completely irrelevant at this stage.
I'm sure that if he only said that he congratulated them personally everybody would say "AND DID THEY RESPOND YOU? WHAT HAPPENED?" and stuff like that, so it would very much be the same.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: LCArenas on December 17, 2011, 11:29:10 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 17, 2011, 11:10:44 PM
He didn't need to mention how many responded, because it's completely irrelevant at this stage.
I'm sure that if he only said that he congratulated them personally everybody would say "AND DID THEY RESPOND YOU? WHAT HAPPENED?" and stuff like that, so it would very much be the same.

Which is why I think a simple public congratulations without any subtext or extra commentary would have been the better move, if it was sincere.