Beneath the Surface Final Chorus

[BlackInk]

After many listens I have noticed something I would have liked in the lyrics of the final chorus. The first chorus focuses on "I", the second on "you". I think it would have been cool if the last chorus had "we" instead of returning to the "I". I still think the song is awesome and the fact that it is not this way does not affect that at all.

Does anyone else agree or have anyone else thought of this also?

[FlyingBIZKIT]

Interesting, I really don't care which way, to be honest.

[CodyWanKenobi]

I remember JP saying that a few years or months after releasing an album he'll sometimes regret some words he used and wish he could change them. If he would have wanted to use 'we' had he thought if it, I'm sure he's thought of it by now and is probably bummed. haha.

[Mladen]

That would be cool, but it's emotional enough the way it is, I don't need it to make me feel like a wuss even more than it does.   

[Jamariquay]

My only comment on BTS, besides that I really enjoy it on the whole, is that I'm curious to see how it would have turned out had the whole band kicked in when James went to a higher octave at the end. Think The Silent Man or Through Her Eyes on Live Scenes.

[hefdaddy42]

I don't like "we" in this case.  "I" works much better.

[bosk1]

I don't like "we" in this case.  "I" works much better.

This.  Cool idea, but it doesn't work in the context of the song, since "we" pretty much implies a unity of action or thought, which is the exact opposite of what the song is about.

[ddtonfire]

You're such a lawyer, Boksy.

[CodyWanKenobi]

I don't like "we" in this case.  "I" works much better.

This.  Cool idea, but it doesn't work in the context of the song, since "we" pretty much implies a unity of action or thought, which is the exact opposite of what the song is about.

Very true.

I've come to the conclusion that bosk is in fact John Petrucci under a vader helmet.

[SnakeEyes]

I don't like "we" in this case.  "I" works much better.

This.  Cool idea, but it doesn't work in the context of the song, since "we" pretty much implies a unity of action or thought, which is the exact opposite of what the song is about.

That's exactly what I thought, too.  The song is really about the "I" person, not the "you" person in the second chorus.  Even though "you" is used in the second chorus, the focus is still on the first person.  So, if you make it "we," then you're making them both equal, but that's not what the song is about.  It's only about how the first person feels and how the second person made that person feel that way and didn't know how to fix it. 

[Bertielee]

I think we can all agree it's a beautiful song the way it is.

B.Lee

[BlackInk]

I think we can all agree it's a beautiful song the way it is.

Indeed.

[IdoSC]

The final chorus of Beneath the Surface is sacred and we shall not doubt it's perfect structure and lyrics.

Nah but seriously, singing "we" wouldn't make much sense in my opinion as the song describes a friendship between two people (a guy and a girl apparently?) that's dying out, from the guy's perspective (reflected by JLB), so it would be weird if that kind of disconnection and distance between those people would be described using the word "we". Hope it made sense in some way XD

[BlackInk]

Maybe so, I would have liked "we" though. It takes two to break apart.

[hefdaddy42]

Maybe so, I would have liked "we" though. It takes two to break apart.

"We" indicates togetherness.  Splitting into "you" and "I" indicates what each did on their own, which is the point of the song.  It already deals with the fact that it takes two.

[BlackInk]

True, but I would have liked it still. And I still love the song either way.

[Marion Crane]

My only comment on BTS, besides that I really enjoy it on the whole, is that I'm curious to see how it would have turned out had the whole band kicked in when James went to a higher octave at the end. Think The Silent Man or Through Her Eyes on Live Scenes.

This.  That's the only thing about the song I don't like. 

[TL]

At first it feels like the third time around should be 'we', but the more you think about it, the more sense returning to 'I' makes.

As for the whole band coming in, I think it would have been too predictable. I like the way they did it.

[Dublagent66]

I don't think it matters either way.  The song is such a downer anyway.  I'm so overwhelmed with disappointment I can't even think straight.

[TAC]

If the OP is bent on using "we", perhaps it could've been used in the first verse, and then go to "you" and then finally to "I".

BTW, that last verse is easily my favorite passage on this album. Freaking brilliant!

[BlackInk]

If the OP is bent on using "we", perhaps it could've been used in the first verse, and then go to "you" and then finally to "I".

Yeah, maybe that would make more sense, then the 'togetherness' will be there at first and then disolve towards the middle and end. But I guess the 'togetherness' isn't supposed to be there in any part of the song...