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Best part of the Twelve-Step Suite...

Started by TheGodOfN00bs, October 26, 2011, 09:36:22 PM

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Which one will it be?

This Dying Soul
The Root Of All Evil
Repentance
The Shattered Fortress

TheGodOfN00bs

Excluding The Glass Prison, because it's fairly obvious that it's everyone's favorite. I would choose The Root Of All Evil.

ResultsMayVary


lithium112

lol I don't think its that obvious. :P I would choose TROE regardless.

LieLowTheWantedMan

The Root of All Evil
Repentance
This Dying Soul










The Shattered Fortress

BlobVanDam

The Glass Prison (bestest song ever)

The Root Of All Evil / This Dying Soul

Repentance / The Shattered Fortress


TROAE and TDS are about equal for me. They're both great songs, but very different. Not sure which I'll vote for.

Jaffa

Pretty much what Blob said.

Voting for This Dying Soul.

Vajra

Well TGP would be number 1 for me, but....

1. This Dying Soul
2. The first 5-7 minutes of The Shattered Fortress (I pretend the parts after that never happened)
3. Repentance
4. Root of all Evil  (amazing song, just not as amazing as the above)

wolfking

The Glass Prison isn't my favourite, This Dying Soul is.

Elite

Why the hell would you exclude TGP if you're asking the fans to choose their favourite? That doesn;t make sense at all, since you're filling in for EVERYBODY now that The Glass Prison is their favourite part of the AA Suite, which is obviously bullshit. I would have voted The Root of All Evil regardlessly.
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voncorn

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Evo

Repentance, by far. I also love TGP obviously, but don't care about the other 3 parts, at all.

Zydar

The Root Of All Evil, even if The Glass Prison were included.

reza_122

Of course "This Dying Soul"
No Doubt   :tup

PixelDream

The Glass Prison / The Root of All Evil. Absolute tie, these songs are both masterful.
This Dying Soul

The other two I don't really care a lot for.

angelillo



Well I think most would agree that the best parts of it are the first 3: TGP, TDS and TROAE

I voted TROAE... but probably if I have just listened to TDS would have voted for it instead...

so no big surprises here... but yes it is an interesting poll...


cyberdrummer


erciccio

This Dying Soul, even if The Glass Prison were included

I really don't like TGP, the only part I like are the famous arpeggios

yorost


DT2003

Not so sure you should have assumed The Glass Prison would win easily.  It's my favorite, but it's clearly not the favorite of many people here.

emtee

I was really hoping to see this all played live one day...with my fingers crossed that it would be led off by The Mirror.

*sigh* T'will never happen now.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: yorost on October 27, 2011, 06:06:00 AM
The Glass Prison is far from being everyone's favourite, only about 2 of 3 consider it so according to previous polls here.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=22529.0
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=13845.0


??? Um, it absolutely slayed in that poll. While I also don't like polls that make assumptions about people's tastes, it's clear that TGP would have slaughtered everything else had it been included, as proven by those threads.

yorost

Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 27, 2011, 06:37:33 AM
Quote from: yorost on October 27, 2011, 06:06:00 AM
The Glass Prison is far from being everyone's favourite, only about 2 of 3 consider it so according to previous polls here.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=22529.0
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=13845.0


??? Um, it absolutely slayed in that poll. While I also don't like polls that make assumptions about people's tastes, it's clear that TGP would have slaughtered everything else had it been included, as proven by those threads.
You think I'm blind?

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Surprised to see TDS winning this, I've always assumed it was the least popular 12SS song besides Repentance... My favorite is Root.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: yorost on October 27, 2011, 06:41:17 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 27, 2011, 06:37:33 AM
Quote from: yorost on October 27, 2011, 06:06:00 AM
The Glass Prison is far from being everyone's favourite, only about 2 of 3 consider it so according to previous polls here.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=22529.0
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=13845.0


??? Um, it absolutely slayed in that poll. While I also don't like polls that make assumptions about people's tastes, it's clear that TGP would have slaughtered everything else had it been included, as proven by those threads.
You think I'm blind?

I'm merely stating that the poll gives TGP a substantial and definitive win. That's pretty conclusive evidence that it is the favourite, and hence justifies its omission, even if I don't agree with that decision.
Yes, it's not "everyone's favourite" if that's what you mean, and if you want to take the OP in a strictly literal sense, but the basis of leaving it out is thoroughly supported, which is all I'm saying.

yorost

...but I never complained about the choice to leave it out of this poll.  I disliked the overstated assumption of individual opinions.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: yorost on October 27, 2011, 06:54:04 AM
...but I never complained about the choice to leave it out of this poll.  I disliked the overstated assumption of individual opinions.

I think we've just got a misunderstanding here.  You said only 2 or 3 consider it their favourite. The OP only meant to imply everyone's favourite of the 12SS, not everyone's favourite DT song overall.
I also don't think he meant literally everyone's favourite of the 12SS either, but rather the forum as a whole.
And both of those threads support that it is the clear forum favourite of the 12SS, and it's not even close.

But like you, I also don't like the assumption of inidividual opinions, so I'm agreeing with you there. I myself considered raising the same point, because I don't like my potential opinion being excluded by assumption, especially if my opinion is strongly against that assumption (which is not the case here, but I know where you're coming from here).

So hopefully that clears up our confusion here. :)

obscure

Quote from: Zydar on October 27, 2011, 04:02:56 AM
The Root Of All Evil, even if The Glass Prison were included.
definitely!

yorost

Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 27, 2011, 07:00:58 AM
I think we've just got a misunderstanding here.  You said only 2 or 3 consider it their favourite. The OP only meant to imply everyone's favourite of the 12SS, not everyone's favourite DT song overall.
I also don't think he meant literally everyone's favourite of the 12SS either, but rather the forum as a whole.
And both of those threads support that it is the clear forum favourite of the 12SS, and it's not even close.

But like you, I also don't like the assumption of inidividual opinions, so I'm agreeing with you there. I myself considered raising the same point, because I don't like my potential opinion being excluded by assumption, especially if my opinion is strongly against that assumption (which is not the case here, but I know where you're coming from here).

So hopefully that clears up our confusion here. :)
The confusion is in that I interpret everyone's favourite as a much stronger statement than overwhelming favourite or group favourite.  It's not a big deal, I just get miffed when statements I agree with are apparently being used to counter my own.

fibreoptix

I went with Root, but if I'm honest... it could have gone to either TDS or Repentance depending on my mood for any given day. The middle of the suite really is where it finds it's strength.

Yes, even Repentance. In my mind it's the second best song on Systematic Chaos... especially those vocal harmonies.

Dublagent66


Metrovarium

The Root of All Evil
The Glass Prison
The Shattered Fortress
This Dying Soul
Repentance

I still love Repentance, but the second half of the song isn't as good as the first, IMO.

Jaffa

Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 27, 2011, 07:00:58 AM
You said only 2 or 3 consider it their favourite.

Actually he said 2 of 3. 

Quote from: yorost on October 27, 2011, 06:06:00 AM
The Glass Prison is far from being everyone's favourite, only about 2 of 3 consider it so according to previous polls here.

Just thought that warranted clarification, because it changes the meaning of what he said.  What he meant was that one third of the forum would have voted for something other than TGP.

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yorost

Thanks Jaffa, I completely missed that Blob thought I wrote 'or'.  His response makes more sense, now.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Jaffa on October 27, 2011, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 27, 2011, 07:00:58 AM
You said only 2 or 3 consider it their favourite.

Actually he said 2 of 3. 

Quote from: yorost on October 27, 2011, 06:06:00 AM
The Glass Prison is far from being everyone's favourite, only about 2 of 3 consider it so according to previous polls here.

Just thought that warranted clarification, because it changes the meaning of what he said.  What he meant was that one third of the forum would have voted for something other than TGP.

Ah yes, thanks for that. That makes much more sense. :lolpalm:
No wonder there was a misunderstanding. :biggrin: