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Jason Richardson from Born of Osiris plays the crazy section of LNF

Started by chrisbDTM, October 25, 2011, 07:52:28 PM

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chrisbDTM

Jason Richardson from the progressive metal band Born of Osiris just posted a video of him playing the crazy duel section fron LNF. Jason is sponsored by Ernie Ball Music Man and plays Petrucci guitars.
sorry non facebook people, the video is only on there for now.


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150364823393930



I think the DT section is appropriate for this post, but move if needed

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rumborak

That was damn impressive. Especially because he didn't have the backing track running, which often masks mistakes.

runmbrak

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Millais

impressive. hopefully we'll see DT playing this live in the European leg!

rumborak

Quote from: GunsOfThePatriots on October 26, 2011, 03:38:28 AM
I think this guy too nailed It (all the song) in a (really) short Time .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw6ih2GFl-E  :hefdaddy

How can you tell? He is barely audible. That's what makes the OP video so impressive.

rumborak

gentaishinigami

Had some wrong notes and awful tone, but pretty darn good!  Much better than I could certainly do.  The people in the comments make me lol though... better than petrucci?  Surely you jest.  :lol

tjanuranus

people in the comments are complete idiots. Ragging on Labrie when i just listened to the singer of Osiris and that shit is terrible. Labrie can actually sing, god forbid.

Ezio

^ Agree.

His picking hand was distracting at times, almost like like he was going to break the strings. Sounds solid though.


Also when I glanced initially the thread title, only seeing the name, I thought it was referring to this Jason Richardson:


gentaishinigami

Quote from: Ezio on October 26, 2011, 07:14:21 AM
His picking hand was distracting at times, almost like like he was going to break the strings.

Yeah, that was the biggest flaw aside from his tone I saw.  He had a very aggressive and segmented technique.  Hard to say what I mean but he was picking extremely hard and "catching" the string a lot, and he didn't have very good flow from one string to the next.  I'm not trying to knock his talent as he's obviously a very talented guitarist I'm just trying to give some constructive criticism.  No one is perfect at guitar not even JP, and he even still has to practice and learn new things still today! 

The youtube video of the Tyler you can see his picking is much softer and has a better flow to it, but yeah he hides his mistakes with a very loud backing track (and he did have quite a few mistakes - much more than Jason).  He also had a much better tone, but maybe circumstances where to blame for Jason's tone, like being a quick vid without his gear or something.  I feel like Jason in that clip is missing the subtleties of guitar though by only focusing on power and speed but forgetting the technique that makes it all flow together seamlessly into music rather than just notes being played  (then again I'm critiquing a two minute long clip lol). 

This is more of a general rant rather than about his playing, but I see so many people who can play super fast, but either can't play rhythm very well and/or don't have good technique and it sounds very disjointed and hollow.  Something I found helped me a lot with that problem was to get the official tab books and follow them exactly like it says.  There are so many tiny subtleties that John puts into each part that are completely lost if you play it by ear (unless you are Godly at playing by ear I guess) like sliding into a note, hitting a note in a certain part over another place on the neck or a quick muted string hit.  It all doesn't seem that important at first, but when you play it with no backing track and listen to both versions you can hear and feel what a difference it makes to the overall experience.

Hopefully that ended up sounding helpful rather than pretentious because that isn't what I wanted to come off as.  I just feel people tend to forget making their playing flow together seamlessly because everyone is in a race to the top of the speed charts since that gets you noticed more/quicker.  :(  Didn't JP say something like that recently that he sees so many fast guitarist on youtube and such that can mimic so well, but almost none can write their own music or play the nuances of the music properly, and that that is what makes a truly great guitarist?

Ezio

Quote from: gentaishinigami on October 26, 2011, 07:54:57 AM
Quote from: Ezio on October 26, 2011, 07:14:21 AM
His picking hand was distracting at times, almost like like he was going to break the strings.

Yeah, that was the biggest flaw aside from his tone I saw.  He had a very aggressive and segmented technique.  Hard to say what I mean but he was picking extremely hard and "catching" the string a lot, and he didn't have very good flow from one string to the next.  I'm not trying to knock his talent as he's obviously a very talented guitarist I'm just trying to give some constructive criticism.  No one is perfect at guitar not even JP, and he even still has to practice and learn new things still today! 

The youtube video of the Tyler you can see his picking is much softer and has a better flow to it, but yeah he hides his mistakes with a very loud backing track (and he did have quite a few mistakes - much more than Jason).  He also had a much better tone, but maybe circumstances where to blame for Jason's tone, like being a quick vid without his gear or something.  I feel like Jason in that clip is missing the subtleties of guitar though by only focusing on power and speed but forgetting the technique that makes it all flow together seamlessly into music rather than just notes being played  (then again I'm critiquing a two minute long clip lol). 

This is more of a general rant rather than about his playing, but I see so many people who can play super fast, but either can't play rhythm very well and/or don't have good technique and it sounds very disjointed and hollow.  Something I found helped me a lot with that problem was to get the official tab books and follow them exactly like it says.  There are so many tiny subtleties that John puts into each part that are completely lost if you play it by ear (unless you are Godly at playing by ear I guess) like sliding into a note, hitting a note in a certain part over another place on the neck or a quick muted string hit.  It all doesn't seem that important at first, but when you play it with no backing track and listen to both versions you can hear and feel what a difference it makes to the overall experience.

Hopefully that ended up sounding helpful rather than pretentious because that isn't what I wanted to come off as.  I just feel people tend to forget making their playing flow together seamlessly because everyone is in a race to the top of the speed charts since that gets you noticed more/quicker.  :(  Didn't JP say something like that recently that he sees so many fast guitarist on youtube and such that can mimic so well, but almost none can write their own music or play the nuances of the music properly, and that that is what makes a truly great guitarist?

Good observations overall. I agree, the flow Richardson's wasn't great, but really good cover nonetheless.

gentaishinigami

Quote from: Ezio on October 26, 2011, 08:06:16 AM
Good observations overall. I agree, the flow Richardson's wasn't great, but really good cover nonetheless.

Oh, no doubt he's a beast!  I'd kill to be able to play that part lol.   :'( 

chrisbDTM

I'm pretty sure someone asked him to play it so he just set up his practice rig, hence any tone issues. Everyone should go on YouTube and search for 'XIV' by Born of Osiris. Jason is literally a human broom when it comes to sweeping

Arch Benemy

Love Born of Osiris, love that unison, love the video! Jason is an unbelievable guitarist, especially as he's only 20! Makes me feel old.


Kotowboy

QuoteGeorge Aaron i'd listen to more dream theater... if i didn't despise the vocals -_-

I have to say that I've never understood the hate towards LaBrie.

I've never had a problem with his voice - apart from maybe the Master Of Puppets cover - but that was understandable.

I'd rather listen to LaBrie all day than anyone from a death Metal band - growling and RORORORORO-ing everywhere  :\

GunsOfThePatriots

Quote from: rumborak on October 26, 2011, 05:55:41 AM
Quote from: GunsOfThePatriots on October 26, 2011, 03:38:28 AM
I think this guy too nailed It (all the song) in a (really) short Time .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw6ih2GFl-E  :hefdaddy

How can you tell? He is barely audible. That's what makes the OP video so impressive.

rumborak

ok excuse me he is not impressive

ah ok mangini is impressive .

GunsOfThePatriots

@ rumborak

how could you tell it's not impressive somebody mastered a song 15 or 30 days after being released

can you post a video of yourself please !!!!!

constructive criticism . that's what's here i think

black_biff_stadler

Not to be the intervening girlfriend in a bar fight but rumborak has posted numerous videos of himself playing DT covers with his former band, Glass Prison. They did numbers like Stream of Consciousness, Learning to Live, The Glass Prison, Erotomania, and quite a few more and even cut tracks for a DT tribute album. He definitely isn't talking out of turn and plays JP material extremely capably.

Bertielee

Quote from: black_floyd on October 27, 2011, 01:14:48 AM
Not to be the intervening girlfriend in a bar fight but rumborak has posted numerous videos of himself playing DT covers with his former band, Glass Prison. They did numbers like Stream of Consciousness, Learning to Live, The Glass Prison, Erotomania, and quite a few more and even cut tracks for a DT tribute album. He definitely isn't talking out of turn and plays JP material extremely capably.

Any link to Rumby's videos, please?
And yeah, I also find the first vid to be more impressive than the second.

B.Lee


jcmistat

Makes me even more excited to either hear this live or see it on video when Petrucci plays it. Too bad they didn't play it on tour or This is the Life.

rumborak

Quote from: GunsOfThePatriots on October 27, 2011, 01:01:02 AM
@ rumborak

how could you tell it's not impressive somebody mastered a song 15 or 30 days after being released

I am saying I can't tell whether it's impressive or not, because JP's guitar sound dominates the recording.

Listen, I don't want this to descend into a second Thiago fiasco. I play guitar, and I know the tricks quite well that cover up your mistakes, and the biggest one is to record over the original recording. The listener invariably associates the correct rendering with the video he sees.

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can you post a video of yourself please !!!!!

That's a very juvenile request, sorry. It's the classic argument that only world-class figure skaters can become competition judges. Which is of course bogus.

rumborak

Arch Benemy

So do we think Petrucci plays it like Richardson with all the string skipping or like the YouTube video with the high notes being tapped?

Elite

Quote from: Lolzeez on November 18, 2013, 01:23:32 PMHey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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Infinite Cactus

I thought in an interview JP or Jordan said that it was a tapped pattern that he(JP) came up with. The reason I think Jordan said it is because I'm pretty sure he said something about that section on guitar in reference to him coming up with the harmonies.

Arch Benemy

Yeah I think JP taps it too. Watching the OP video, you don't really see JP jumping around the neck like that, he'd try to be more economical, whereas Richardson uses lots of string-skipping and never really taps in BOO, so he probably feels more comfortable picking every note instead of tapping.

bss4life15

Quote from: tjanuranus on October 26, 2011, 07:02:21 AM
people in the comments are complete idiots. Ragging on Labrie when i just listened to the singer of Osiris and that shit is terrible. Labrie can actually sing, god forbid.

That's right, when a band makes fun of a singer from the band you like, you make fun of their's to get your point across.  :\

Arch Benemy

Quote from: bss4life15 on October 30, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
Quote from: tjanuranus on October 26, 2011, 07:02:21 AM
people in the comments are complete idiots. Ragging on Labrie when i just listened to the singer of Osiris and that shit is terrible. Labrie can actually sing, god forbid.

That's right, when a band makes fun of a singer from the band you like, you make fun of their's to get your point across.  :\
You said what I wanted to say, but couldn't find the words

chrisbDTM

bump

Jason isn't in Born of Osiris anymore (chelsea grin, rather) but he just posted a clip of him playing the solo from LNF. no backing tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-9WQ2lsQMo&feature=youtu.be

snapple

what's amazing to me is not that he can play this, is that Petrucci makes this shit so easy.

Joshin U

Jason is a fantastic guitarist. He deserves much better than to be in that  :censored band "Chelsea Grin". Here's another fantastic solo of his:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5LqFyvAYLo

Dark Castle

Quote from: Joshin U on July 10, 2013, 02:06:41 PM
Jason is a fantastic guitarist. He deserves much better than to be in that  :censored band "Chelsea Grin". Here's another fantastic solo of his:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5LqFyvAYLo
Jason has left/kicked out of many bands in just a few years, I seem to think it's him rather than the bands he's in.