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Overture 1928 - I. Overture - The Shattered Fortress

Started by darkshade, October 18, 2011, 05:32:39 PM

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Overture 1928
110 (74.8%)
I. Overture (SDoIT)
16 (10.9%)
The Shattered Fortress
21 (14.3%)

Total Members Voted: 147

darkshade

Which one of these tunes is the best at what it intends to do (preview or recap themes and motifs of other songs)? All 3 seem to divide fans as to whether they are good or not, and some completely skip them on their respective albums. However, I think they all succeed in context of the pieces that they are part of.
Which do you find is the best?

Jamesman42

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senecadawg2

Overture 1928 is, by itself, easily one of the greatest DT instrumentals. The way it works with Strange deja vu makes it even more incredible.
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theseoafs

Gonna go with 1928 both because it does the best job of putting together themes from the other albums and because it's the best song of the three by itself.

Metrovarium

The Shattered Fortress > Overture 1928 > Overture

That applies not only to how effective they are at previewing/recapping themes, but also to how much I enjoy them.

LieLowTheWantedMan


hacko

1928 is easily my favorite DT instrumental so...there goes .

TL

Overture 1928 is literally the song that introduced me to Dream Theater (yes, I heard Regression first, but come on). It literally changed my life. To this day, I still get goosebumps when I hear it; it's just that damn good. It's easily one of my favorite Dream Theater songs.

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BlobVanDam

I still don't get why TSF is up against the two overtures.

1. SDOIT Overture - super underrated, melodic masterpiece. And it sounds like fucking Zelda. You just can't top that.

2. Overture 1928 - A great way to kick of a great album, and with a lot of energy, but it still pales in comparison to SDOIT Overture.

3. The Shattered Fortress - It's not bad, but I'd rather just listen to TGP instead, since TSF feels like a not as good recycling.

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Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 18, 2011, 09:13:29 PM
I still don't get why TSF is up against the two overtures.

1. SDOIT Overture - super underrated, melodic masterpiece. And it sounds like fucking Zelda. You just can't top that.

2. Overture 1928 - A great way to kick of a great album, and with a lot of energy, but it still pales in comparison to SDOIT Overture.

3. The Shattered Fortress - It's not bad, but I'd rather just listen to TGP instead, since TSF feels like a not as good recycling.
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LieLowTheWantedMan

I already regret voting 1928. Shoulda voted Overture. Oh well.

Jamariquay


mrjazzguitar

the production of the overture to Six Degrees is just horrendous. what the fuck was jordan thinking? the rest of the song is my 2nd favorite DT song.

voted 1928

Mladen



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Aquila Chrysaetos

Quote from: senecadawg2 on October 18, 2011, 05:41:29 PM
Overture 1928 is, by itself, easily one of the greatest DT instrumentals. The way it works with Strange deja vu makes it even more incredible.
Couldn't have said this any better!

RaiseTheKnife

Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 18, 2011, 09:13:29 PM
I still don't get why TSF is up against the two overtures.


Easy.  I've always viewed TSF as an overture that comes at the end rather than the beginning of an opus.  It almost serves the same function of reintroducing and/or unifying themes presented in the overall piece.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: RaiseTheKnife on October 19, 2011, 02:06:27 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 18, 2011, 09:13:29 PM
I still don't get why TSF is up against the two overtures.


Easy.  I've always viewed TSF as an overture that comes at the end rather than the beginning of an opus.  It almost serves the same function of reintroducing and/or unifying themes presented in the overall piece.

Ok, that makes sense. I hadn't thought about it in that way since it's the end of the saga rather than the intro, and not instrumental, but all 3 songs are based around themes from the collective work from which they come.

Nekov




hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

namgalsipsclar

Overture with full orchestra is best, but if we're talking studio versions then 1928 wins. Why is TSF on here?

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Zydar


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PersianPimp076

Overture 1928. Probably the best intro to any DT album. It does however cover fewer motifs from SFAM than the other to do for their respective suites, but its flows infinitely better - overture goes on way too long and puts me off listening to SDOIT from start to finish a lot of the time, although the very last three notes are epic; the way it foreshadows the end of Losing Time and then segues into the piano intro of About to Crash is one of the highlights of SDOIT. And TSF just doesn't tie the motifs together very well, it seems forced.

Dream Team

Quote from: Mladen on October 18, 2011, 11:22:01 PM
Overture 1928

The easiest poll ever.

Exactly. I don't get the OP's point about fans being divided over it???? I'm pretty sure it's almost universally appreciated.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Dream Team on October 19, 2011, 06:18:15 AM
Quote from: Mladen on October 18, 2011, 11:22:01 PM
Overture 1928

The easiest poll ever.

Exactly. I don't get the OP's point about fans being divided over it???? I'm pretty sure it's almost universally appreciated.
This, there is no fan division.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Nekov

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on October 19, 2011, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on October 19, 2011, 06:18:15 AM
Quote from: Mladen on October 18, 2011, 11:22:01 PM
Overture 1928

The easiest poll ever.

Exactly. I don't get the OP's point about fans being divided over it???? I'm pretty sure it's almost universally appreciated.
This, there is no fan division.

But there is Joy Division

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