Mike Portnoy on That Metal Show

[Tis BOOLsheet]

Thoughts?

[MasterLomaxus]

It's pronounced Peert not Purt.  Also, I think Mike looked like a stud.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

anyone want to bet the guy with the headphones on was jordan?

[Cranky]

I missed the first half, but I am watching it right now.
It's pretty interesting so far, even though it's nothing I haven't heard before.

[MasterLomaxus]

anyone want to bet the guy with the headphones on was jordan?

That seems reasonable.  Of course the fact that whichever one was listening to the iPod was dining by their lonesome makes me think it could have been Myung.  Since he doesn't speak anyway, it wouldn't surprise me

[Dr. DTVT]

It was recorded 3 months ago, but I don't have any problem with what he said.  He has things from his POV, other than the iPod thing, he didn't really slag the band - and to be honest if that story is true, it would bother me as well if someone was being non-participatory in a group event.

[Mebert78]

Mike Portnoy ranked above Peart on the drummer list?  That was interesting.  It's subjective, of course, but I think Peart would rank higher.  Not sure if they just put Mike #1 because he was there.

As for Portnoy's comments, there's no reason for him to mention the iPod thing, in my opinion.  Yes, it would bother me too if a band member did that.  But there's no reason to publicize personal moments.  Also, I agree with him about his style and interests straying too far from DT.  He said he realized how much he'd changed when he was at a dinner with lots of heavy metal personalities (Anthrax, etc.) and he realized that the DT guys aren't friends with any of the same people as him anymore.  MP had changed thru the years.  Nothing wrong with that.  It was obvious just by looking at how loaded he became with tattoos and now a nose ring, while the other guys are 180 degrees in the other direction appearance-wise.

Also interesting that now said he wanted a one-year split.  JR said a five-year split in the documentary.  I wonder why the timeframes keep changing.  A one-year split would've been fine with me.  Just weird how the timeframe keeps changing.

[Cool Chris]

Not a hard-hitting interview, but Mike seemed to take ownership of his departure much more than I have read in other interviews. Some of us have accused him of playing the victim card a bit too much, but I didn't get that sense at all from this show that he felt like the victim, or wanted us to feel like he was a victim  the way things went down.

One thing that caught my attention was how he felt that after a break of "a year or two" the band would be revitalized and the fans would be all pumped for them to hit the studio again. And while I think the majority of us would, I don't necessarily like bands to take a multi-year break to 'revitalize.' If you need that long to revitalize, maybe a change is needed, and sounds like Mike ultimately came to that conclusion himself.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

yeah its a big difference. i think 1 year is actually reasonable. 5 years is completely unreasonable.

[Mebert78]

Did anyone tape it for those outside the U.S.?  I pointed my smartphone at the TV and record it, but I'm having trouble gettimng it on YouTube from my phone. 

[LTE3]

anyone want to bet the guy with the headphones on was jordan?

that was my guess as well

[Ħ]

link?

[ResultsMayVary]

Also interesting that now said he wanted a one-year split.  JR said a five-year split in the documentary.  I wonder why the timeframes keep changing.  A one-year split would've been fine with me.  Just weird how the timeframe keeps changing.

Seeing as Portnoy has said things here and there that ended up not being true, i'll give JR the benefit of the doubt. Especially when several other people are saying the same thing as JR.

And what is this situation involving the "iPod" thing? No one has explained it here yet.

[Jamesman42]

Not a hard-hitting interview, but Mike seemed to take ownership of his departure much more than I have read in other interviews. Some of us have accused him of playing the victim card a bit too much, but I didn't get that sense at all from this show that he felt like the victim, or wanted us to feel like he was a victim  the way things went down.

I really wanna see this now. If that's the case, awesome. I hope he will continue to take the higher road so any potential drama or spins on what he says are depleted.

[ResultsMayVary]

Not a hard-hitting interview, but Mike seemed to take ownership of his departure much more than I have read in other interviews. Some of us have accused him of playing the victim card a bit too much, but I didn't get that sense at all from this show that he felt like the victim, or wanted us to feel like he was a victim  the way things went down.

I really wanna see this now. If that's the case, awesome. I hope he will continue to take the higher road so any potential drama or spins on what he says are depleted.

And continue to avoid saying things that ultimately result in "lolmp" moments.

[Jamesman42]

Correct.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

eddie didnt press him too hard on anything. they're obviously close friends.

[ouMD]

anyone want to bet the guy with the headphones on was jordan?

I assumed Myung. Why Jordan?

[BlobVanDam]

Also interesting that now said he wanted a one-year split.  JR said a five-year split in the documentary.  I wonder why the timeframes keep changing.  A one-year split would've been fine with me.  Just weird how the timeframe keeps changing.

Seeing as Portnoy has said things here and there that ended up not being true, i'll give JR the benefit of the doubt. Especially when several other people are saying the same thing as JR.

I am pretty sure they're both right. I think the original suggestion was 5 years, but then it was "bargained" down to 1 year or so, but the band still didn't want to take a break, so then MP decided to leave. At least, that's what I gather from the various interviews. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[ResultsMayVary]

eddie didnt press him too hard on anything. they're obviously close friends.

Which is another reason why I ended up not watching this. I knew nothing new would be said and I would basically waste an hour where I could be doing something productive.

[Pinga]

Mike is a decent drummer and all, but he's far from the best. That list should've included Mangini if they're putting Portnoy, but we all know why that didn't happen. I guess that's why he thinks he's never in the wrong; the people that surround him exaggerately praise every single thing that he does.

[ResultsMayVary]

Also interesting that now said he wanted a one-year split.  JR said a five-year split in the documentary.  I wonder why the timeframes keep changing.  A one-year split would've been fine with me.  Just weird how the timeframe keeps changing.

Seeing as Portnoy has said things here and there that ended up not being true, i'll give JR the benefit of the doubt. Especially when several other people are saying the same thing as JR.

I am pretty sure they're both right. I think the original suggestion was 5 years, but then it was "bargained" down to 1 year or so, but the band still didn't want to take a break, so then MP decided to leave. At least, that's what I gather from the various interviews. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think you are correct, but it sounds like he is saying he only wanted one year, when he originally wanted five. To me, he seems to want it known that he wanted one and hopefully people would disregard his statement regarding the five-year deal. It certainly puts him into a better light considering the things he was saying three months ago.

[ResultsMayVary]

Mike is a decent drummer and all, but he's far from the best. That list should've included Mangini if they're putting Portnoy, but we all know why that didn't happen. I guess that's why he thinks he's never in the wrong; the people that surround him exaggerately praise every single thing that he does.

This is my guess as well. Also MP is not better than Peart. Sorry everyone.

[BlobVanDam]

Mike is a decent drummer and all, but he's far from the best. That list should've included Mangini if they're putting Portnoy, but we all know why that didn't happen. I guess that's why he thinks he's never in the wrong; the people that surround him exaggerately praise every single thing that he does.

Um look at how many drummer awards the guy has won over the years. It's not like he has a close circle of friends convincing him he's better than he deserves to think. He has plenty of other awards to back it up. Why does everyone have to spin everything into drama FFS?

[ResultsMayVary]

Mike is a decent drummer and all, but he's far from the best. That list should've included Mangini if they're putting Portnoy, but we all know why that didn't happen. I guess that's why he thinks he's never in the wrong; the people that surround him exaggerately praise every single thing that he does.

Um look at how many drummer awards the guy has won over the years. It's not like he has a close circle of friends convincing him he's better than he deserves to think. He has plenty of other awards to back it up. Why does everyone have to spin everything into drama FFS?

Awards aren't everything. There are a few drummers out there who are better players with less awards.

[SystematicThought]

I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

[BlobVanDam]

Mike is a decent drummer and all, but he's far from the best. That list should've included Mangini if they're putting Portnoy, but we all know why that didn't happen. I guess that's why he thinks he's never in the wrong; the people that surround him exaggerately praise every single thing that he does.

Um look at how many drummer awards the guy has won over the years. It's not like he has a close circle of friends convincing him he's better than he deserves to think. He has plenty of other awards to back it up. Why does everyone have to spin everything into drama FFS?

Awards aren't everything. There are a few drummers out there who are better players with less awards.

That's not my point. I'm not arguing that MP is better than Peart or Mangini or whoever. MP has always gotten recognition because he's a great drummer in a great band (DT), so the suggestion that MP getting recognition here is only due to surrounding himself with a group of people who "exaggerately praise" him (which isn't even a word, but whatever) is pretty ridiculous imo. He's received plenty of recognition from the larger rock/metal community to prove that.

[ResultsMayVary]

Mike is a decent drummer and all, but he's far from the best. That list should've included Mangini if they're putting Portnoy, but we all know why that didn't happen. I guess that's why he thinks he's never in the wrong; the people that surround him exaggerately praise every single thing that he does.

Um look at how many drummer awards the guy has won over the years. It's not like he has a close circle of friends convincing him he's better than he deserves to think. He has plenty of other awards to back it up. Why does everyone have to spin everything into drama FFS?

Awards aren't everything. There are a few drummers out there who are better players with less awards.

That's not my point. I'm not arguing that MP is better than Peart or Mangini or whoever. MP has always gotten recognition because he's a great drummer in a great band (DT), so the suggestion that MP getting recognition here is only due to surrounding himself with a group of people who "exaggerately praise" him (which isn't even a word, but whatever) is pretty ridiculous imo. He's received plenty of recognition from the larger rock/metal community to prove that.

Ah gotcha. Didn't mean to misunderstand your post there. My bad!

[Tis BOOLsheet]

I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

[ResultsMayVary]

I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

That still doesn't excuse posting like that. He should have kept it to himself, first and foremost.

[SystematicThought]

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

lol Actually, I do care. And no, the band wasn't being ridiculous, talk to Roadrunner about that shit

[Tis BOOLsheet]

I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

That still doesn't excuse posting like that. He should have kept it to himself, first and foremost.

he did NOTHING wrong. its not like the band trusted him with this secret information and he leaked it. he said it was STRONGLY RUMOURED. im not sure why youre even irked by him saying that, unless youre really that much of a fanboy. putting aside the fact that he did nothing wrong, the band was being absolutely ridiculous about that entire situation.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

lol Actually, I do care. And no, the band wasn't being ridiculous, talk to Roadrunner about that shit

if you actually care about that you need to get over it lol. eddie trunk is trying more than anyone else out there right now to keep heavy music alive, whether or not you think he acts like a baby sometimes. whether it was the band or roadrunner who came up with the idea to irritate a LARGE number of the fans by being that crazy about the release the fact is that ET didnt do anything wrong or "low."

[SystematicThought]

It's not a matter of being a fanboy, rather that Eddie is a VERY well known friend of MP and Eddie has never mentioned DT since MP left or that the new CD is good when in the past he has praised everything DT has put out

And than he leaks the drummer's name a month before the band does. That is extremely "low" of him

[MasterLomaxus]

Personally I don't think he said anything controversial or whatever.  I disagreed with his drummer rankings.  However, I am glad to hear that he likes Permanent Waves over Moving Pictures.  Also, I didn't know that PW was the first album released in the 80s.  That's pretty cool