*OFFICIAL* A Dramatic Tour of Events U.S. Set List Pool

[bosk1]

Place your bets before 2:00 p.m. PST 9/24/11 (because that's the date of the first new show).  Here are the rules:

-Post your predicted set list before 2:00 p.m. the date of the show.  Any posts or edits after that time will not count.
-Post no more than 2 hours, 15 minutes of music.  The set will likely be just under 2 hours, but this gives a bit of leeway.  Post any more than that, and you will be DQ'd.  (simple reason is, the more songs you post, the more likely you will get correct hits)
-Order does not matter (mostly).
-The person with the highest number of "correct" songs wins.  Because the encore song and possibly another small handful of songs will rotate, if there is a tiebreaker, I will consider sets from the next 3 shows on the tour as tiebreaker #1.  For example, if 2 people tie with 8 correct songs each, and then person #1 has one of this "incorrect" songs rotated into the set within the next 3 shows, he wins.
-Tiebreaker #2:  If tiebreaker #1 doesn't break a tie, I will next subtract 1 point for each incorrect song.  People may choose different numbers of songs based on song length and based on how far to take advantage of the "15 minute" or so song buffer I am giving.
-Tiebreaker #3:  Song order.  Whoever is closer to the correct order wins tiebreaker #3.
-Tiebreaker #4:  List whatever you want to be tiebreaker #4.  For example, when I did this for the Score concert years ago, some people said "they will play with an orchestra."  That happened.  So everyone who put that as their tiebreaker had an advantage if they were tied with someone who didn't put that.  Some people chose a song as their tiebreaker.  So, for example, if they put "Under a Glass Moon" as their tiebreaker, they got credit for it as a correct song, and would get credit for it again in the tiebreaker round.  Choose whatever tiebreaker you want.
-Solos:  I am not going to allow solo spots to count as "correct" songs.  Personally, I think they will continue doing a Mangini drum solo spot.  But if they really shorten it, and he basically does a slightly extended drum roll going into Ytsejam, for example, I don't want to get into a debate about whether it counts as a "song" for purposes of the pool.  BUT if you want to choose a member solo as your tiebreaker, I will count it there.

Recap:  Post your set list and a tie breaker.  Can't be longer than 2:15.  Must be posted and not edited by 2:00 PST before the first show on Saturday to count.

There may be a prize for the winner. 


I will post mine in a second so you have an example.

[bosk1]

On The Backs Of Angels   
Build Me Up/Break Me Down
Under A Glass Moon
These Walls
Forsaken
Outcry
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Ytsejam
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate
Caught In A Web
Bridges In The Sky
-----
Learning To Live
Beneath The Surface


Tie Breaker:  They will close the main set with a song from the new album

[BlobVanDam]

What's the prize? Is it worth me cheating and getting in deep trouble for?

[bosk1]

Yeah, since you did tour animations, you can't play.  And everyone else:  Honor system here!  No PM'ing Blob to get inside scoop.  I don't have any inside knowledge myself, which is why I'm playing.

























EDIT:  But I'm curious, what does the tour animation for Raw Dog look like?

[Marion Crane]

Orlando-Hard Rock Live

Bridges in the Sky
These Walls
Caught In A Web
Endless Sacrifice
Outcry
Drum Solo/Ytse Jam
On the Backs of Angels
Peruvian Skies
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Beneath the Surface
The Count of Tuscany

Encore
Breaking all Illusions
Learning to Live

Tiebreaker : Switch TCOT and BAI. 

[John94]

Going with something slightly off the charts...

SET ONE - (77m?)

On the Backs of Angels
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Lost Not Forgotten
This is the Life
The Shamans Trance
Outcry
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath the Surface
________________________

The Great Debate
These Walls
Peruvian Skies
Forsaken
Ytsejam
Learning to Live

(49 m?)
_________________________

Metropolis

(9m)

Total length = 135 mins = 2 hours 15 exactly.

Tiebreaker - They will close with a song from Images and Words.

[KevShmev]

Bridges in the Sky
Forsaken
Lost Not Forgotten
Endless Sacrifice (with drum solo at the end)
Pull Me Under
Outcry
On the Backs of Angels
Peruvian Skies
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
The Count of Tuscany
Breaking All Illusions

Metropolis

Tiebreaker: If they only play one of These Walls and Forsaken, Forsaken will be the one played.

I think they see Build Me Up, Break Me Down as the eventual second single, but will wait till it is released as a single (or with a video) to start playing it live, especially given the time constraints in the set list.

[cyberdrummer]

1. Bridges In The Sky
2. Under A Glass Moon
3. These Walls
4. Forsaken
5. Lost Not Forgotten
Mike Mangini Drum Solo
6. Ytse Jam
7. Outcry
8. Peruvian Skies
9. The Great Debate
10. On The Backs of Angels
11. Caught In A Web
12. The Spirit Carries On
13. Far From Heaven
14. Breaking All Illusions
--------------------------------------
15. Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper


Tiebreaker: they play the whole of A Dramatic Turn of Events not in sequence, but spread throughout the set.

[As I Am]

  1) Bridges In the Sky
  2) Outcry
  3) Caught In A Web
  4) Endless Sacrifice
  5) drum solo - YTSE JAM
  6) On The Backs of Angels
  7) The Great Debate
  8) Peruvian Skies
  9) Beneath The Surface
10) Breaking All Illusions
encore:
11) The Spirit Carries On
12) Learning To Live

Tiebreaker - Lost Not Forgotten will unfortunately NOT be played on this US leg

[(nothing)]

On The Backs of Angels
These Walls
Forsaken
Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
Ytse Jam
Bridges In The Sky / Outcry (ONE of the 2)
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate
Caught In A Web
The Spirit Carries On
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
---------------------
Metropolis

Tiebreaker: They won't be playing both Bridges In The Sky and Outcry at the same night but they will be switching them.

[Elite]

On the Backs of Angels
Forsaken
Endless Sacrifice
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate
Bridges in the Sky
Caught in a Web
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Breaking all Illusions
The Count of Tuscany
------------------
Learning to Live

Tie-Breaking: They won't be playing any songs with lyrics by Mike Portnoy.

[OsMosis2259]

1. On the Backs of Angels
2. Bridges in the Sky
3. Under a Glass Moon
4. These Walls
5. Endless Sacrifice
6. Peruvian Skies
7. Outcry
8. The Great Debate
9. Caught in a Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany

Encore:
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions

Tiebreaker- They will choose a song from Images and Words for the encore

[7StringedBeast]

On The Backs Of Angels   
Build Me Up/Break Me Down
Under A Glass Moon
These Walls
Forsaken
Outcry
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Ytsejam
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate
Caught In A Web
Bridges In The Sky
-----
Learning To Live
Beneath The Surface


Tie Breaker:  They will close the main set with a song from the new album

Holy sweet jesus I hope you get 100% of them right because that is a fucking awesome setlist!

[CodyWanKenobi]

Watch them just show up and play the 12 step suite and then the Whirlwind.. xD

[bosk1]

On The Backs Of Angels   
Build Me Up/Break Me Down
Under A Glass Moon
These Walls
Forsaken
Outcry
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Ytsejam
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate
Caught In A Web
Bridges In The Sky
-----
Learning To Live
Beneath The Surface


Tie Breaker:  They will close the main set with a song from the new album

Holy sweet jesus I hope you get 100% of them right because that is a fucking awesome setlist!

I agree.  Not only do I think it is extremely realistic, but I would be extremely happy with it.

[CodyWanKenobi]

Tie-Breaking: They won't be playing any songs with lyrics by Mike Portnoy.

Totally agree.

[Marion Crane]

Not because JLB hinted at it in an interview, but because it just makes sense, I think it's pretty much a lock that they open with BITS.  I give it a 0% chance they open with OTBOA.  Just doesn't work as an opener. IMHO

[cyberdrummer]

I don't know, I just can't see them ending with Beneath the Surface. Seems like an odd closer to me.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

I hope they close with BTS. Back on the Awake turr, they closed with The Silent Man, and I thought that was fantastic. It would be a breath of fresh air since most of DT's tours end with "BIG GRAND EPIC LOL!"

[cyberdrummer]

It would be a breath of fresh air since most of DT's tours end with "BIG GRAND EPIC LOL!"

In my opinion, there's a good reason for that. I love the sense of euphoria when the show finishes with a bang. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing the band experiment with BtS as the closer, could definitely be interesting. I'd just prefer them not to, that's all! 

[wasteland]

I hope they close with BTS. Back on the Awake turr, they closed with The Silent Man, and I thought that was fantastic. It would be a breath of fresh air since most of DT's tours end with "BIG GRAND EPIC LOL!"

They used to close with The Silent Man, but they always had Metropolis (and later Learning To Live) as encore. So, their shows never actually closed on a regular basis with a ballad.

[Jaffa]

There's essentially no chance in hell I'm going to get much right.  But it sounds like fun, so I'll give it a shot.  I definitely won't win any points for track order, I don't think, because I pretty much left most of the European leg songs in the same order they were played on the first leg. 


Bridges in the Sky
Under a Glass Moon
These Walls
Forsaken
Endless Sacrifice
Ytse Jam
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate
On the Backs of Angels
Caught In A Web
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
The Count of Tuscany
-----------
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath the Surface


Tie-Breaker: The encore will contain the combination of Far From Heaven and Breaking All Illusions. 

[jonny108]

1. Bridges in the Sky
2. Lost Not Forgotton
3. Under a Glass Moon
4. Forsaken
5/6. MM drum solo/Ytse Jam
7. On the Backs of Angels
8. The Great Debate
9. Peruvian Skies
8. Outcry
9. Far From Heaven
10 Breaking All Illusions

Encore
11. Beneath the Surface
12. Learning to Live

Tiebreaker: They will swap LTL and Metropolis around randomly.

EDIT: This is the Life was supposed to go in there somewhere.

[ResultsMayVary]

Bridges In The Sky
Caught In A Web
Under A Glass Moon
These Walls
Endless Sacrifice
Ytse Jam
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
On The Backs of Angels
Through My Words/
Fatal Tragedy
Forsaken
The Count of Tuscany
------Encore------
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
Metropolis, Pt. 1 (or Learning to Live)

Tiebreaker: Metropolis and LtL will be switched every other show.

[Ħ]

*cracks knuckles*

Time to get to work.

[krands85]

I have no idea, will there be a prize for the worst guesses? 

1. On the Backs of Angels
2. Build Me Up, Break Me Down
3. Under A Glass Moon
4. Endless Sacrifice
5. These Walls
6. Peruvian Skies
7. Bridges in the Sky
8. Outcry
9. The Dance of Eternity
10. The Great Debate
11. This is the Life
12. Caught In A Web
13. Forsaken
14. Breaking All Illusions
------
15. Metropolis

2 hours 10minutes

Tiebreaker:
An Images and Words song will be the final track of the night.

I think I'll go and listen to a playlist with those songs in it 

[wilgod3p]

Under a glass moon
On the backs of angels
Build me up, break me down
These walls
Endless Sacrifice
Ytse Jam
Lost not forgotten
caught in a web
Outcry
The great debate
Bridges in the sky
_____________
Far from heaven
Breaking all illusions

Tie breaker: They will play 7 songs from the new album

[wilgod3p]

not sur I want to know if I win before I see them. I will try for once to keep the setlist secret until my show.

[OsMosis2259]

On The Backs Of Angels   
Build Me Up/Break Me Down
Under A Glass Moon
These Walls
Forsaken
Outcry
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Ytsejam
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate
Caught In A Web
Bridges In The Sky
-----
Learning To Live
Beneath The Surface


Tie Breaker:  They will close the main set with a song from the new album

I'm prob gonna win but if I don't, I hope you win 

[Ħ]

Bridges in the Sky
Build Me Up Break Me Down
Under A Glass Moon
These Walls
Endless Sacrifice
Ytse Jam
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate
On the Backs of Angels
Caught In A Web
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Outcry
Breaking All Illusions
-------
Learning to Live

Tie-breaker 4: alternate LTL and Metropolis

Rounding to the nearest 30-second interval, it all adds up to 130 minutes,  (or 128 minutes with Metropolis).  Add in time for the drum solo and intersong dialogue and you hit 2:15.

I basically took the European setlist and the songs I thought would likely be played from ADTOE.  I cut TCOT, seeing as it's long and has been well represented these past tours.  I cut Forsaken seeing as it is fairly well-represented if I recall correctly.  I preserved the European song order and added the ADTOE songs where I thought they'd work.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Bridges In The Sky
These Walls
Under A Glass Moon
Drum Solo
The Ytse Jam
Outcry
The Great Debate
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
On The Backs Of Angels
Peruvian Skies
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
The Count Of Tuscany

Encore:
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions

Total: Approx. 2 hours and 4 minutes

Tiebreaker: There will be 5 songs played from ADTOE

[visitor]

On The Backs of Angels
Metropolis Pt 1
A Nightmare to Remember
This is The Life
Breaking All Illusions
Erotomania
Dance of Eternity
In the Presence of Enemies Pt 1
The Glass Prison
Octavarium

My assumption is at least one song from each album with emphasis on the new

[Chrissalix]

Bridges In The Sky
These Walls
Innocence Faded
On The Backs Of Angels
The Dance Of Eternity
Endless Sacrifice
Outcry
Wither
The Great Debate
The Spirit Carries On
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath The Surface
---------------------
Learning To Live/Metropolis in rotation

Clocks in at just over 2 hours give or take a few minutes.

Tie Breaker 4: Somewhere within the set, Mike Mangini will perform a drum solo.

Mangini's had some time to learn some new tunes but I don't think they'll deviate from the summer set too much in terms of old material. Though given that they're not changing the setlists on tour anymore then i'd expect a bit more of a shake-up between tours.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

EDIT:  But I'm curious, what does the tour animation for Raw Dog look like?

Probably just flashy animations of a hot dog that hasn't been cooked yet.

[theseoafs]

1. Bridges in the Sky
2. Lost Not Forgotten
3. These Walls
4. Peruvian Skies
5. Endless Sacrifice
6. Ytse Jam
7. On the Backs of Angels
8. Caught in a Web
9. The Great Debate
10. Outcry
11. The Spirit Carries On
12. Breaking all Illusions
---
13. Beneath the Surface
14. Metropolis

About 2:06.

Tiebreaker: At least 5 songs from ADTOE will be played, one of which will be Far From Heaven or Beneath the Surface.

I basically took the old setlist, added in a few tunes from ADTOE that I thought were realistic (and utilizing what hints we've already gotten from the band), and cut it to a realistic time. The setlist I had then was a little lacking, I think, in true classics, so I threw in The Spirit Carries On, which seemed realistic because Mangini already knows it and because the lyrics aren't Portnoy's.