Images and 'Wakes

[theseoafs]

Sorry to post another thread so soon. I get the feeling that that sort of thing is frowned upon here, but this is the last one I'm doing in this particular vein, and the question, I feel, is genuinely interesting and not at all spammy. Plus, gotta keep the boards occupied 'till the 13th, right?

Anyway, this is a sequel to my other thread, Black Chaos and Systematic Linings, though it should be more challenging because the consensus on these albums is far more consistent and positive. The concept is the same: you must re-cut Images and Words and Awake into one single-disc album, Images and 'Wakes. Take any of the tracks from the two albums and combine them in any order into a playlist whose length may not exceed eighty minutes. The songs you do not preserve are fed to Mike Portnoy, as before, and are lost forever. You may NOT edit the songs in any way, and you may not use pre-existing radio edits or any tracks not on the two original studio albums. If it helps, think of yourself as using an iTunes library to burn the single-disc playlist, which library has only Images and Words and Awake burnt directly from the CD's, without access to Audacity or any other program. Good? Good.

Here's mine:

Images and 'Wakes

1. Pull Me Under
2. Under a Glass Moon
3. Surrounded
4. Take the Time
5. Voices
6. Metropolis
7. Scarred
8. Space Dye Vest
9. Learning to Live

Total runtime: 1:18:31

I hated doing this, because Wait for Sleep was originally on my disc, but I had to let it die so that Space Dye Vest could live. Also, it pains me to turn two great albums into this disjointed mess.

[Ultimetalhead]

Ladies and gentlemen, the new Aniland has arrived.

[theseoafs]

Ladies and gentlemen, the new Aniland has arrived.

The Spirit carries on, I've been told.

[Nick]

Take the Time
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man
Metropolis Pt. 1
Another Day
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
Learning to Live

78:37

[MasterShakezula]

I'll give it a shot:

Image

1. Pull Me Under
2. Innocence Faded
3. Metropolis 1
4. Erotomania
5. Voices
6. The Silent Man
7. The Mirror
8. Lie
9. Learning To Live

Tried to actually make it flow, as well as having my favorites.  I really wanted to throw in Scarred, as well, but it'd of made it too long, and I refuse to give up any of A Mind Beside Itself (Possibly my favorite thing DT did), nor did I want to exclude Lie (The Mirror needs it to be complete, IMO).  And I really enjoy Innocence Faded and Pull Me Under, so there.  

[Jirpo]

Images and Words is my favourite album ever, I would just have the whole of I&W with Innocence Faded after PMU and Scarred after UAGM.

[MasterShakezula]

Just about the opposite here.  Aside from PMU, M1, and LTL, I'd rank every single song over all of I&W, and I prefer AMBI (E, V, and TSM) and The Mirror over those 3. 

I practically worship A, though I really enjoy I&W, nonetheless. 

[Adami]

My problem is that Awake is 74 minutes, and there's no song under 6 minutes that I'd put on there.

[MasterShakezula]

My problem is that Awake is 74 minutes, and there's no song under 6 minutes that I'd put on there.

Wait, are you saying you love all of Awake, and having all of it would mean not being able to put in you 6+ minute favorites from Images, or do you mean that all of your favorite songs from both albums are over 6 minutes? 

[BlobVanDam]

Pull Me Under
Another Day
Take The Time
Surrounded
Metropolis
Under a Glass Moon
Wait For Sleep
Learning to Live
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man

77:32

That was a lot easier than trying to fit SC and BCASL onto one disc.

[Adami]

My problem is that Awake is 74 minutes, and there's no song under 6 minutes that I'd put on there.

Wait, are you saying you love all of Awake, and having all of it would mean not being able to put in you 6+ minute favorites from Images, or do you mean that all of your favorite songs from both albums are over 6 minutes? 

I'm saying I love all of Awake, and I can't think of a song from I&W that is under 6 minutes that will in any possible way fit on the album.

[cramx3]

Pull Me Under
6:00
Metropolis
Erotomania
Voices
Take the Time
Lie
Scarred
Wait for Sleep
Learning to Live

79 minutes and one hell of a CD!

[YtseJamittaja]

6.00
Take The Time
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
Metropolis
Pull Me Under
Innocence Faded
Under A Glass Moon
Scarred
Wait For Sleep
Learning To Live

75.28

and

That was a lot easier than trying to fit SC and BCASL onto one disc.

[?]

Pull Me Under
Voices
The Mirror
Lie
Take the Time
Metropolis
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest
Learning to Live

[Amoniz]

1-Metropolis
2-The mirror
3-Caught in a web
4-Surrounded
5-Scarred
6-Under a glass moon
7-Erotomania
8-Voices
9-Innocence faded
10-Learning to live

~ 79 minutes

[Zydar]

1. Metropolis
2. Another Day
3. Take The Time
4. Under A Glass Moon
5. Innocence Faded
6. Surrounded
7. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
8. Erotomania
9. Wait For Sleep
10. Learning To Live

Total time 68 minutes

[hefdaddy42]

No way will I do this.  It's their 2 best albums by far.  I will just take both as is.

[robwebster]

1. Under a Glass Moon (7:00)
2. Don't Look Past Me (6:30)
3. Take The Time (8:30)
4. Caught in a Web  (5:30)
5. Erotomania (6:30)
6. Surrounded (5:30)
7. Pull Me Under (8:00)
8. The Mirror (7:00)
9. Lie (6:30)
10. Wait for Sleep (2:30)
11. Learning to Live (11:30)
12. The Silent Man (4:00)

(75:00)

I'd call that more or less perfect. The Mirror's mainly there as an intro to Lie, but it's got some cool bits. If I'm not allowed Don't Look Past Me then do this instead:



1. 6:00 (5:30)
2. The Silent Man (4:00
3. Under a Glass Moon (7:00)
4. Take The Time (8:30)
5. Caught in a Web  (5:30)
6. Erotomania (6:30)
7. Surrounded (5:30)
8. Pull Me Under (8:00)
9. The Mirror (7:00)
10. Lie (6:30)
11. Wait for Sleep (2:30)
12. Learning to Live (11:30)

(74:00)

EDIT: ARSE! I forgot The Silent Man!

[BlobVanDam]

No way will I do this.  It's their 2 best albums by far.  I will just take both as is.

Amendment to original post - if you choose not to follow the rules of the thread, BlobVanDam gets to choose your CD tracklist for you. Do it.

[robwebster]

If it's any consolation, hef, I don't think they're actually going to feed the leftover songs to Mike Portnoy and eradicate them from the universe.

It'd be too expensive, for one.

[BlobVanDam]

If it's any consolation, hef, I don't think they're actually going to feed the leftover songs to Mike Portnoy and eradicate them from the universe.

It'd be too expensive, for one.

For a song to be lost forever, he would have to eat every single record, cassette tape, CD, and master tape of the album, then track down every hard drive with a copy, and either eat the drives, or destroy them. Realistically, he'd probably die from consuming all of those materials long before the songs were truly wiped out, or at the very least it would take so long that it wouldn't be a real threat. I think people could digitally copy them faster than any human could consume them.

[hefdaddy42]

No way will I do this.  It's their 2 best albums by far.  I will just take both as is.

Amendment to original post - if you choose not to follow the rules of the thread, BlobVanDam gets to choose your CD tracklist for you. Do it.

Knowing what you know about me, go ahead and pick mine.  Then I will tell you what I think of it.

If it's any consolation, hef, I don't think they're actually going to feed the leftover songs to Mike Portnoy and eradicate them from the universe.

It'd be too expensive, for one.

Oh, goodie.

[Elite]

Ladies and gentlemen, the new Aniland has arrived.

This.
No way I can choose between the tracks of two of my favourite albums ever of which I love EVERY track on them.
I'd make a double CD, first CD featuring the entire I&W, second the entire Awake.
Wait, that wasn't allowed? Then screw this.

[hefdaddy42]

Ladies and gentlemen, the new Aniland has arrived.

Nah, I don't think so.

[aXygnus]

Ladies and gentlemen, the new Aniland has arrived.

The Spirit carries on, I've been told.

Hi Aniland.

[yorost]

6:00
Caught in a Web
Innocence Faded
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man
The Mirror
Lie
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
Scarred

I could break up Images, but mixing the two is only going to weaken what Awake is.  Nothing against Space Dye Vest, but it doesn't really fit the album so this improves Awake a little.

[JediKnight1969]

Ladies and gentlemen, the new Aniland has arrived.

May God have mercy on us...

[theseoafs]

Ladies and gentlemen, the new Aniland has arrived.

The Spirit carries on, I've been told.

Hi Aniland.

Was it Aniland's thing to make two threads over the span of two days while apologizing for making the second? 'Cause that sort of seems to me like a pretty tame thing to be known for.

[The Letter M]

Metropolis Part 1 (9:32)
The Mirror (6:45)
Lie (6:34)
Another Day (4:24)
A Mind Beside Itself (20:26)
Under A Glass Moon (7:04)
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream (6:05)
Wait For Sleep (2:32)
Learning To Live (11:31)

76:53

-Marc.

[The Silent Cody]

There is no way to mix the climate from Images and Awake together. It's just doesn't fits, besides this two albums are so far perfect that I couldn't do it.

[Jaffa]

Metropolis 1 
Take the Time
Scarred
Under a Glass Moon
Caught in a Web
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man
Wait for Sleep
Learning to Live

75: 48

Initially I wanted the album to start with PMU, then The Mirror, then Lie, then CiaW, because I thought that could be a really cool run of metal.  But this would mean figuring out 20 minutes of other stuff to leave off, which I couldn't do.  So I went with the above.  I THINK it would flow quite nicely.

[7thHanyou]

There is no way to mix the climate from Images and Awake together. It's just doesn't fits, besides this two albums are so far perfect that I couldn't do it.

I've actually had a playlist for Images that's included Innocence Faded and Lifting Shadows.  They fit in quite well with the atmosphere of Images and Words.

Anyway, I'll give it a shot:

Pull Me Under
Caught in a Web
Another Day
Metropolis, pt. 1
Lifting Shadows
Under a Glass Moon
The Silent Man
Take the Time
Innocence Faded
Surrounded
Wait for Sleep
Learning to Live

Yes, that includes ALL of I&W, because I couldn't imagine sacrificing a single song from that album.  Between 6:00, Caught in a Web, Innocence Faded, The Silent Man, and Lifting Shadows, it was hard for me to think of one to drop, but 6:00 had to go.  It functions well as an opener, but would seem out of place in the middle of any album.  Pull Me Under is my favorite opener in Dream Theater's catalog, so obviously I couldn't let that one go.

Pull Me Under > Caught in a Web works really, really well, I think.  Similar atmosphere, both are "heavy," and Caught in a Web is really good for keeping up the flow.  Another Day provides a welcome breather, and drops into Metropolis pt. 1 pretty well.  Most interesting in terms of sound is Lifting Shadows > Under a Glass Moon--they feel like they were made to be right next to each other.  The Silent Man and Take the time work well together, too, and the last four songs on this album combine for a "bright" sound.

[KevShmev]

So, some of the songs on this album will have a triggered snare, and some of them won't?  Got it.

1. Metropolis
2. Erotomania
3. Voices
4. The Silent Man
5. Take the Time
6. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
7. Scarred
8. Space Dye Vest
9. Wait for Sleep
10. Learning to Live

[reneranucci]

Pull Me Under
Another Day
Take The Time
Surrounded
Metropolis
Under a Glass Moon
Wait For Sleep
Learning to Live
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man

77:32

That was a lot easier than trying to fit SC and BCASL onto one disc.

This

[krands85]

Pull Me Under
Another Day
Erotomania
Voices
Take the Time
Metropolis Part 1
Under a Glass Moon
Scarred
Wait for Sleep
Learning to Live

79minutes and 9 seconds