Am i the only one not liking SDOIT Cd 2?

Started by fleaman, August 29, 2011, 06:27:34 PM

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fleaman

I really love Cd 1!!The Glass prison and The Great Debate are two of my favourite DT tracks!!How come the sixth track is such poor compared to the first cd?Am i the only one out there with that thought?I find it really boring to listen to..

Outcrier

Quote from: fleaman on August 29, 2011, 06:27:34 PM
Am i the only one out there with that thought?I

Yes, you are(no, i'm joking :rollin)

I particularly love Six Degrees...she is my 3rd favorite song by DT  :hefdaddy

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Jarlaxle

One of the greatest songs to ever be written. So yes.

Metro

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Adami

I like parts of the song, like I love Goodnight Kiss and Solitary Shell and the About to Crash songs. I like War Inside My Head and The Test that Stumped Them All, and I tolerate the finale song. But I really never ever have a desire to listen to the overture, it's just way too long and doesn't do much.
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SystematicThought

I don't enjoy it as a whole, rather as a separate songs. So basically, I do not like the CD as a song, rather as the individual tracks

FlyingBIZKIT

The Finale is probably my favorite piece of DT's music.

mrjazzguitar


ResultsMayVary

I love both discs, but the second is by far my favorite.

Ultimetalhead

Considering that SDOIT is one of the most incredible pieces of music I've ever heard, I'd say you're either insane or you have defective hearing.

Jarlaxle

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on August 29, 2011, 06:58:53 PM
Considering that SDOIT is one of the most incredible pieces of music I've ever heard, I'd say you're either insane or you have defective hearing.
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RuRoRul

I definitely wouldn't say I don't like it, but it doesn't rank quite as highly for me as it does for many other people, especially considering I think all the other 20+ minute songs they have are among their best. I like the parts individually, Solitary Shell, The Test That Stumped Them All, About To Crash and (Reprise) are all amazing as short songs, the other parts are good too. And it is great to listen to at once as well. But for me if feels more like listening to an album rather than listening to a song, and I can easily listen to the individual parts or groups of them and enjoy them just as much, something I wouldn't really want to do with, say, Octavarium (even ITPOE, which has parts in separate tracks, doesn't feel as easily separable as SDOIT, although I do sometimes listen to its parts individually only because they are in that place in the album).

Also, I find Overture a bit boring. It's good enough but when I have the rest of the song right there, I'm never that desperate to listen to it as it doesn't really have much going for it that isn't done better when the parts are all fleshed out into the songs, and it drags. Losing Time / Grande Finale is similar, I'd definitely only listen to it in the context of the full song and I feel it's a rather weak finish compared to the great parts before it.

Still, it's easily in my top 15 DT songs and if the individual parts were separate songs, some of them would be scattered around some high ranks as some of the best short songs DT has done. So I can't say I'm with you in not liking it, but I would understand why someone wouldn't necessarily rate it as highly as others do when looking at it as a single song

m0hawk

Well, it surely is more uplifting than disc 1, which may have surprised/turned off some people. Give it some time, let it grown on you. I was kinda neutral to it at first, and now I get goosebumps at about 4 different parts of the song (About to Crash solo, War Inside My Head intro, Goodnight Kiss verse, Grand Finale final verse).

Outcrier

Personally, i like Six Degrees(the album) more than Images And Words and Awake(Scenes being my fav one) :metal

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Vajra

Pain, OP will know pain. For his crimes, on our forum's kind, he'll never be the same.

ReaperKK

I don't like it, at all, just forgettable.

yorost

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I do not like the second disc.  It's a sloppy collection of mediocre sections.

On the other hand, the first disc is fantastic.

jayvee

I'm with the OP. The Test That Stumped Them All is the only tune I listen to. (From CD1, The Glass Prison is my fave, with Blind Faith second).

Zook

I love disc 2. It's amazing. You're psychosane.


























Motherfuckin' psychosane.


Tumdace

I am not too fond of the intro. Sometimes it seems like I just want to skip passed it. I love the rest of it.

toro


DreamTension

I happen to love the Overture!   :metal

I wonder if some of you guys would have a different opinion of Disk 2 if they would have kept it as one long track?  That's always how I have listened to it.  I think they should have kept it all together.

Tumdace

Quote from: DreamTension on August 29, 2011, 07:44:19 PM
I happen to love the Overture!   :metal

I wonder if some of you guys would have a different opinion of Disk 2 if they would have kept it as one long track?  That's always how I have listened to it.  I think they should have kept it all together.

Ive only ever listened to it as one long track.

Ive never listened to SDOIT without listening to it in one sitting. Its not meant to be listened by individual tracks IMO.

djentlemen

Quote from: jayvee on August 29, 2011, 07:24:26 PM
I'm with the OP. The Test That Stumped Them All is the only tune I listen to. (From CD1, The Glass Prison is my fave, with Blind Faith second).

the test was probably the worst track in the entire album

DreamTension

Quote from: djentlemen on August 29, 2011, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from: jayvee on August 29, 2011, 07:24:26 PM
I'm with the OP. The Test That Stumped Them All is the only tune I listen to. (From CD1, The Glass Prison is my fave, with Blind Faith second).

the test was probably the worst track in the entire album

That's the problem!  It shouldn't be a track, it should be part of a song. 

atalkingfish

I actually exported CD2 as one long flac track. It's 300MB and aMAZing to listen to..

jayvee

Quote from: DreamTension on August 29, 2011, 07:44:19 PM
I happen to love the Overture!   :metal

I wonder if some of you guys would have a different opinion of Disk 2 if they would have kept it as one long track?  That's always how I have listened to it.  I think they should have kept it all together.

No. I don't like the music itself. I don't know if it's "bad" or "good". I just know I don't get into it.

Quote from: djentlemen on August 29, 2011, 08:16:19 PM
the test was probably the worst track in the entire album

My favorite music is that which is musically unique and musically challenging. I'm a musician myself (totally non-professional, but "classically" trained).

This is one of the most unique and challenging pieces of (rock) music I know. To me it's pure adrenaline.

yorost

Quote from: DreamTension on August 29, 2011, 07:44:19 PM
I wonder if some of you guys would have a different opinion of Disk 2 if they would have kept it as one long track?
No, that' preposterous.  It doesn't matter if they make it one track, it is still not good in my opinion.  I have only ever listened to it as a whole, and to be honest it's hurt by being a whole.  It's basically six tracks tied together by topic and no real important order, but then they paste on an overture and finale and all of a sudden it's one song?  If we weren't told it was one song would any of us actually think it was?  Regardless, the tracks are largely uninteresting, with the overture being the best thing on the disc even though it feels out of place.

Setlist Scotty

While I've grown to appreciate the second disc a lot more, it still pales in comparison to the first disc. If I were to rank all of DT's albums and split the CDs apart, disc 1 would be at the very top of the list, and disc 2 would be roughly halfway down in the rankings. From the first time I listen to disc 1, I loved it and still do to this day; can't say the same about disc 2.
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Quote from: yorost on August 29, 2011, 08:43:19 PM
Quote from: DreamTension on August 29, 2011, 07:44:19 PM
I wonder if some of you guys would have a different opinion of Disk 2 if they would have kept it as one long track?
No, that' preposterous.  It doesn't matter if they make it one track, it is still not good in my opinion.  I have only ever listened to it as a whole, and to be honest it's hurt by being a whole.  It's basically six tracks tied together by topic and no real important order, but then they paste on an overture and reprise and all of a sudden it's one song?  If we weren't told it was one song would any of us actually think it was?  Regardless, the tracks are largely uninteresting, with the overture being the best thing on the disc even though it feels out of place.

I respect that.  It's amazing how many varying opinions there can be on Dream Theater.

I actually just finished Disk 2 and my feelings haven't changed.  :biggrin: