Trial of Tears Appreciation Thread

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gzarruk

Quote from: Kattoelox on January 18, 2018, 10:49:56 AM
Quote from: Pragmaticcircus on January 12, 2018, 03:15:25 PM
Out of any DT song, I'd love to hear Devin Townsend sing this one. He could fit some screams in there and his classic operatic style  :angel:

:o I just thought of him singing it and got chills. I can imagine he'd up the intensity of singing the chorus and by the end he's screaming. I wonder if we can crowdfund to get him to do this.  :biggrin:

That would be the most "DT" thing ever...

HOF

Listening to FII just now, and this song is truly magical. If I had to pick a top performance by everyone in the band, this one would be near the top of the list for everyone. Yet it's not a wank-fest or anything. It all just fits together perfectly and the sound is so deep and warm. The lyrics are perfect too. Love it.
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2024, 05:40:22 PM"No way" is kind of strong, but I do lean with HOF.

gmillerdrake

Quote from: HOF on January 28, 2020, 09:26:05 PM
Listening to FII just now, and this song is truly magical. If I had to pick a top performance by everyone in the band, this one would be near the top of the list for everyone. Yet it's not a wank-fest or anything. It all just fits together perfectly and the sound is so deep and warm. The lyrics are perfect too. Love it.

Agreed. Top (3) DT song ever for me. Love it....the Budakon live version is my favorite.

pg1067

For me, TOT is one of DT's more overrated songs.  It's good -- with a couple sections that are great -- and probably the best song on the band's worst album, but it's probably at the very bottom of the list of best songs on a DT album and nowhere near a top 25 for me.

gzarruk

Quote from: pg1067 on January 29, 2020, 03:29:24 PM
probably the best song on the band's worst album

Nailed it.

Great song, though.

The Walrus

One of DT's all-time best imo. I never turn this one off when it comes on shuffle.

Volante99

#76
I actually like the "Live at Budokan" version better. Seems to have a better "atmosphere" and for some reason I don't like LaBrie's performance on the studio recording or it might be the vocal effects. He honestly sounds stronger at Budokan.

There's also some weird studio effect on Petrucci's guitar solo that someone should have, kindly, pulled the plug on lol. FII is one of their best sounding albums but I think this song in particular might have been a bit "overproduced"? Budokan is cleaner, stripped down and better for it in my opinion.

Good performance by Portnoy, Myung (they definitely got the bass sound right on this album), and Sherinian, though!

HOF

#77
Quote from: pg1067 on January 29, 2020, 03:29:24 PM
For me, TOT is one of DT's more overrated songs.  It's good -- with a couple sections that are great -- and probably the best song on the band's worst album, but it's probably at the very bottom of the list of best songs on a DT album and nowhere near a top 25 for me.

As an FII lover, it’s close to Lines in the Sand for best song on the album for me (after stuff like Hell’s Kitchen, Hollow Years, and Take Away My Pain, which are all favorites).
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2024, 05:40:22 PM"No way" is kind of strong, but I do lean with HOF.

Northern Lion

On the subject of the album itself, I actually like it quite a bit.  It's got a few stinkers imho (You not Me, Just Let Me Breathe) and the production sound is kind of soft, but on the whole I like it a lot.

But the crown of the album is certainly Trial of Tears.  It is an AMAZING song.  And I consider it one of DT's perfect, or near perfect compositions.  I just can't see anything wrong with it at all.

HOF

Quote from: Northern Lion on January 31, 2020, 03:18:23 PM
On the subject of the album itself, I actually like it quite a bit.  It's got a few stinkers imho (You not Me, Just Let Me Breathe) and the production sound is kind of soft, but on the whole I like it a lot.

But the crown of the album is certainly Trial of Tears.  It is an AMAZING song.  And I consider it one of DT's perfect, or near perfect compositions.  I just can't see anything wrong with it at all.

I do love the sound of FII overall. The weak spots (IMO) are You Not Me (much prefer You Or Me), Burning My Soul, and Just Let Me Breath, and then I could take or leave Peruvian Skies. There was so much great material produced during those sessions, and unfortunately they left off several of the best tracks from the session (Raise the Knife, The Way It Used To Be, and Speak to Me especially). It would have been better as a double album or if they had just picked the right songs to feature.

But as it is, I love most of the album and consider it my favorite DT album alongside Awake.
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2024, 05:40:22 PM"No way" is kind of strong, but I do lean with HOF.

Northern Lion

Quote from: HOF on January 31, 2020, 03:30:43 PM
Quote from: Northern Lion on January 31, 2020, 03:18:23 PM
On the subject of the album itself, I actually like it quite a bit.  It's got a few stinkers imho (You not Me, Just Let Me Breathe) and the production sound is kind of soft, but on the whole I like it a lot.

But the crown of the album is certainly Trial of Tears.  It is an AMAZING song.  And I consider it one of DT's perfect, or near perfect compositions.  I just can't see anything wrong with it at all.

I do love the sound of FII overall. The weak spots (IMO) are You Not Me (much prefer You Or Me), Burning My Soul, and Just Let Me Breath, and then I could take or leave Peruvian Skies. There was so much great material produced during those sessions, and unfortunately they left off several of the best tracks from the session (Raise the Knife, The Way It Used To Be, and Speak to Me especially). It would have been better as a double album or if they had just picked the right songs to feature.

But as it is, I love most of the album and consider it my favorite DT album alongside Awake.

I agree with everything you just said.  On my phone I have a modified playlist of the album which ommits parts from the studio album and adds parts from the demo series.  And I love it!

WilliamMunny

I am wayyyyy in the minority here, but FII is my second favorite DT album (6 Degrees is first), and Trial of Tears is my favorite song off of the record.

I've loved it since the day it came out, but as I've gotten older, I keep coming back to it, while albums like TOT I rarely revisit.

I know many fans prefer the 'metal' side of the band, but to me, FII showcases an excellent balance of everything they'd done up to that point (basically blending I&W with Awake).

To that point, while there was little on D/T that I ever plan to revisit (again, I recognize that I am in the vast minority here), my playlist combining FII with the additional songs from the bootleg is the only thing I still routinely visit from DT. Great stuff!

TAC

I'm a metal guy, but I actually don't prefer the Metal side of the band. I can get my metal in so many other places.

That said, I think FII is really weak, but Trial Of Tears is absolutely amazing.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

KidInTheDark666

I think that Falling Into Infinity is a good album, it ranks around #10-11 in my DT album ranking. Trial of Tears is probably the best song on the album, even though I don't consider it to be top tier.

The Walrus

Quote from: WilliamMunny on February 03, 2020, 04:05:17 PM
I am wayyyyy in the minority here, but FII is my second favorite DT album (6 Degrees is first), and Trial of Tears is my favorite song off of the record.

I've loved it since the day it came out, but as I've gotten older, I keep coming back to it, while albums like TOT I rarely revisit.

I know many fans prefer the 'metal' side of the band, but to me, FII showcases an excellent balance of everything they'd done up to that point (basically blending I&W with Awake).

To that point, while there was little on D/T that I ever plan to revisit (again, I recognize that I am in the vast minority here), my playlist combining FII with the additional songs from the bootleg is the only thing I still routinely visit from DT. Great stuff!

FII is better than most of their post-8V material... FII rules.

KidInTheDark666

FII beats The Astonishing, WDADU and self-titled. It's pretty much equal with Distance Over Time imo.

Samsara

My favorite on FII, which as anyone who has read my posts knows, I consider to be a really good record. Top-5 in DT catalog.
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