Live versions of songs that require two guitars at once... How do they do it?

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Setlist Scotty

Quote from: Infinite Cactus on July 22, 2011, 11:12:09 PM
Also, TCOT intro is a recording just like the begging of Metropolis with the bells.

The one exception being that JP plays along to the recording on TCoT, whereas on Metropolis and several of the other songs that the band (sometimes) uses an intro tape for (such as PMU and ACoS), the whole band waits for the tape to end and then kicks in at the same time. Individual members do not play along to the recording.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
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Jamesman42

It's funny though, JP could use a loop easily, though he probably wants to not potentially fudge up the intro or anything.
\o\ lol /o/

Elaitch

It is my understandng, as people also have been saying, that most of the time JP just doesn't play the rhythm, and that JM continues it by himself while JR fills in with his keyboard part. At least that's what I've been hearing most of the time (good example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a457gjoaaZY#t=5m39s ). I've heard some pretty convincing guitar patches from JR, however on that recording you can clearly hear it's a keyboard patch from JR and not a guitar loop. So apart from recent example The Count of Tuscany I think that they rarely use pre-recordings, especially in the middle of songs, since it is probably tedious to pull of in the midst of trying to concentrate on playing the song, with the timing and what not.

ReaPsTA

Well, since the above video is good but an official material issue, here's another one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onVjUiyXjlk&NR=1

A bit into the video he kicks in a guitar patch.  To make it sound like a palm mute, just play it very staccatoish.

composure77

Dont know if its been mentioned but i know from watching backstage

footage that JP does have a harmonizer pedal for such songs like Fatal Tragedy

Fiery Winds

Here's a video of how convincing keyboards can sound as guitar.  A friend sent it to me and I had no idea it was played on a keyboard until he told me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UvzD4gZnw4

Metabog

Quote from: Samara on July 22, 2011, 05:29:23 PM
Quote from: chrisbDTM on July 22, 2011, 05:21:00 PM
jordan is doing it in the gigantour one


so this
Quote from: JayOctavarium on July 22, 2011, 03:59:34 PM
Jordan has 2 hands....

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I didn't know a keyboard could do a perfect mimick of palm-muting. Are you sure its Jordan?

Lol, it definitely can, there are a million ways you can get a realistic guitar sound with palm muting.

Progmetty

It's Jordan, always Jordan. And when he doesn't do it you get a disastrous performance imo, perfect example for me would be all the live versions of Constant Motion I've seen, at the start of the instrumental middle section JP plays that cool riff that goes really well with that magical drum part and suddenly the riff stops so he can start playing the solo, it just ruins it for me big time and makes the album version the only one enjoyable.