Most progressive songs

Vindaloo · July 04, 2011, 06:24:52 AM

Hey folks,
i wonder what your choice would be if you had to make one album with the most progressive songs of Dream Theater.
So what do you think are their best non-metal/most progressive songs?

Cheers

olliemedsy · July 04, 2011, 06:28:42 AM

As I am, Honor thy father, The dark eternal night, The mirror/lie, caught in a web, the glass prison and a nightmare to remember probably.

hefdaddy42 · July 04, 2011, 06:30:16 AM

Welcome, Vindaloo!

At a rough guess, I would include:

A Change of Seasons
Learning To Live
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Don't Look Past Me
Disappear
New Millennium
Ytse Jam
Metropolis Pt. 1
Hell's Kitchen
Lines In The Sand

hefdaddy42 · July 04, 2011, 06:30:45 AM

Quote from: olliemedsy on July 04, 2011, 06:28:42 AM
As I am, Honor thy father, The dark eternal night, The mirror/lie, caught in a web, the glass prison and a nightmare to remember probably.

So I guess you didn't read the OP at all, right?

snapple · July 04, 2011, 06:32:43 AM

SFAM
TTT
L2L
Metropolis
Trial of Tears
ACOS
TCOT (yeah it has metal moments, but that Pink Floyd-ish break is IMMENSE)

Fran521 · July 04, 2011, 06:33:02 AM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 04, 2011, 06:30:45 AM
Quote from: olliemedsy on July 04, 2011, 06:28:42 AM
As I am, Honor thy father, The dark eternal night, The mirror/lie, caught in a web, the glass prison and a nightmare to remember probably.
So I guess you didn't read the OP at all, right?

hefdaddy42 · July 04, 2011, 06:34:54 AM

Quote from: Fran521 on July 04, 2011, 06:33:02 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 04, 2011, 06:30:45 AM
Quote from: olliemedsy on July 04, 2011, 06:28:42 AM
As I am, Honor thy father, The dark eternal night, The mirror/lie, caught in a web, the glass prison and a nightmare to remember probably.
So I guess you didn't read the OP at all, right?

Doesn't make any sense to use sarcasm when answering a new user's very first post.

reo73 · July 04, 2011, 06:42:43 AM

I'm gonna go with the one from each album:

Ytse Jam
Metropolis
Scarred
A Change of Season (Their Most Prog Song)
Trial of Tears
Home
Blind Faith
Honor Thy Father
Octavarium
In the Presence of Enemies
The Count of Tuscany

The Silent Cody · July 04, 2011, 07:06:35 AM

"Most Progressive Dream"
1. The Killing Hand
2. Metropolis
3. Erotomania
4. A Change Of Seasons
5. Lines In The Sand
6. The Dance Of Eternity
7. 6DOIT
8. Honor Thy Father
9. Octavarium
10. In The Presence Of The Enemies
11. The Count Of Tuscany

5 cd edition

Nihil-Morari · July 04, 2011, 07:13:37 AM

Well, Six Degrees obviously. At 42 minutes, with a near-classical ouverture, metal parts, pop parts and rock parts and an epic ending it has everything.

Honourable mention would be Learning To Live, to be that progressive within 11 minutes is truly a performance.

Elaitch · July 04, 2011, 09:18:09 AM

Quote from: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 07:06:35 AM
"Most Progressive Dream"
1. The Killing Hand
2. Metropolis
3. Erotomania
4. A Change Of Seasons
5. Lines In The Sand
6. The Dance Of Eternity
7. 6DOIT
8. Honor Thy Father
9. Octavarium
10. In The Presence Of The Enemies
11. The Count Of Tuscany
5 cd edition

Pretty much this. However, I would also add Learning To Live.

wasteland · July 04, 2011, 09:25:07 AM

Good idea to select the most progressive song from each album!

1. The Ytse Jam
2. Learning To Live
3. Scarred
4. Trial Of Tears
5. Beyond This Life
6. Blind Faith
7. Stream Of Consciousness
8. Octavarium
9. In The Presence Of The Enemies Pt.1
10. The Count Of Tuscany

Notable mentions: Metropolis, A Change Of Seasons, Erotomania, Hell's Kitchen.

If I had to chose one i would go with Trial Of Tears...

Jamesman42 · July 04, 2011, 09:29:32 AM

Non-metal? Ok.

1. Learning to Live
2. Octavarium
3. A Change of Seasons
4. SDOIT
5. The Count of Tuscany
6. Lines in the Sand
7. Scarred
8. Ytse Jam

darkshade · July 04, 2011, 09:32:22 AM

Are we talking about the dictionary definition of 'progressive' here? or just DT's most proggy songs?

If it's the former, there's no reason to exclude the "metal" songs (besides, most of DT's material has some amount of metal.) I would say ANTR and TGP are 2 of their most progressive-metal tracks

Nic35 · July 04, 2011, 09:33:50 AM

ITPOE pt1
Fatal Tragedy
Misunderstood
Home
Blind Faith
Scarred
Trial Of Tears

That'd be

wammabe · July 04, 2011, 10:48:18 AM

Disk 1:
Metropolis pt.1
A Mind Beside Itself
Lines In The Sand
Learning To Live
Stream of Consciousness
The Killing Hand

Disk 2:
Trial of Tears
Dance of Eternity
One Last Time
A Change of Seasons

I think it's too much, I can't have consecutive orgasms.

TheGreatPretender · July 04, 2011, 11:09:43 AM

Quote from: Nihil-Morari on July 04, 2011, 07:13:37 AM
Well, Six Degrees obviously. At 42 minutes, with a near-classical ouverture, metal parts, pop parts and rock parts and an epic ending it has everything.

Honourable mention would be Learning To Live, to be that progressive within 11 minutes is truly a performance.

I think it was kind of a wimpy move (on behalf of the record label, I'm guessing) to split it up into the different 'degrees'. Ideally, like Change of Seasons and Octavarium, it's meant to be listened to in its entirety. But I got nothing to complain about, I just merged it.

EpicCookie · July 04, 2011, 11:56:08 AM

Well the Dance of Eternity is by far the most progressive as in changing odd time signatures.
But if you mean like proggy as in prog-rock and stuff, almost everything from I&W till 8VM except for Train of Thought

wammabe · July 04, 2011, 12:17:25 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on July 04, 2011, 11:09:43 AM
Quote from: Nihil-Morari on July 04, 2011, 07:13:37 AM
Well, Six Degrees obviously. At 42 minutes, with a near-classical ouverture, metal parts, pop parts and rock parts and an epic ending it has everything.

Honourable mention would be Learning To Live, to be that progressive within 11 minutes is truly a performance.
I think it was kind of a wimpy move (on behalf of the record label, I'm guessing) to split it up into the different 'degrees'. Ideally, like Change of Seasons and Octavarium, it's meant to be listened to in its entirety. But I got nothing to complain about, I just merged it.

Moving to different songs in SDOIT is like moving to different sections of A Change of Seasons. It makes no sense for me.

Nekov · July 04, 2011, 01:19:12 PM

By Album

Only a Matter of Time
Learning to Live
Erotomania
Hell's Kitchen
Beyond this Life
Blind Faith
Stream of Consciousness
Octavarium
In The Presence of Enemies PT. 1
The Count of Tuscany

Vajra · July 04, 2011, 01:45:32 PM

Quote from: olliemedsy on July 04, 2011, 06:28:42 AM
As I am, Honor thy father, The dark eternal night, The mirror/lie, caught in a web, the glass prison and a nightmare to remember probably.

The Glass Prison and ANMTR are very progessive. Long, a lot of variation, complex song structure. They are far from being an average song like Lie or Caught in a Web.

Infinite Cactus · July 04, 2011, 01:48:10 PM

Also by Album
Only A Matter of Time
Learning To Live
Scarred or even CIAW
Lines In The Sand
Beyond This Life or The Dance of Eternity
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Stream of Conciousness
Octavrium
In The Presence of Enemies
The Count of Tuscany or ANTR

olliemedsy · July 04, 2011, 02:11:16 PM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 04, 2011, 06:34:54 AM
Quote from: Fran521 on July 04, 2011, 06:33:02 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 04, 2011, 06:30:45 AM
Quote from: olliemedsy on July 04, 2011, 06:28:42 AM
As I am, Honor thy father, The dark eternal night, The mirror/lie, caught in a web, the glass prison and a nightmare to remember probably.
So I guess you didn't read the OP at all, right?

Doesn't make any sense to use sarcasm when answering a new user's very first post.

Well I thought it made sense

abydos · July 04, 2011, 03:28:38 PM

Only A Matter of Time
Metropolis pt. 1
Scarred
A Change of Seasons
Lines in the Sand
TDOE
SDOIT
SoC
TROE
ITPOE pt 2
ANTR

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