Why the hate for Raw Dog?

Slain · June 14, 2011, 04:14:48 PM

Alright, I'm not going to try and argue that it's an album worthy, amazing tune, but it's definitely a fun song, and fits really well with God of War 3. It's on the same level as, if not better than what it reminded me of- Megadeth's version of the Duke Nukem theme song, another heavy instrumental tune that goes along with the game it's made for. It's a shame that it isn't featured anywhere in the actual game, and that it's only on the GoW3 soundtrack.

The name is pretty cheesy, no doubt about it. But am I alone here on this one?

Vajra · June 14, 2011, 04:16:47 PM

Inspirational and moving? No
Fun and head bang worthy? Hell yes.

Metabog · June 14, 2011, 04:17:43 PM

It was in a terrible console game.

Slain · June 14, 2011, 04:18:32 PM

Quote from: Metabog on June 14, 2011, 04:17:43 PM
It was in a terrible console game.

Wrong!

But I guess that's not what we're arguing here...

Jamesman42 · June 14, 2011, 04:19:33 PM

Love it. Great fun, lots of cool little things going on. And that bass wah pedal.

TheKillingHand · June 14, 2011, 04:23:43 PM

Love it!! Definitely not album material, but its fun and badass! I'd love to hear them do it live!

Zook · June 14, 2011, 04:24:08 PM

Quote from: Metabog on June 14, 2011, 04:17:43 PM
It was in a terrible console game.

Jamesman42 · June 14, 2011, 04:24:49 PM

Regarding not album material, this would've worked well on SC or BC&SL IMO.

JimmyJava · June 14, 2011, 04:44:17 PM

It fits right into the "So Energy! Powah!" category.

wolfking · June 14, 2011, 04:50:14 PM

It's just very boring and uninspired, I'm not a fan.

Aniland · June 14, 2011, 04:53:43 PM

Because it's terrible music

juice · June 14, 2011, 04:54:48 PM

I think its a pretty cool song.

pogoowner · June 14, 2011, 04:56:45 PM

Quote from: wolfking on June 14, 2011, 04:50:14 PM
It's just very boring and uninspired, I'm not a fan.

Infinite Cactus · June 14, 2011, 05:12:12 PM

I like certain things about it. I like the beginning with the keyboards. It's one of those songs like A Nightmare to Remember that I think would have benefit heavily for a little editing here or there. Maybe shave off a minute or two.

Dillster22 · June 14, 2011, 05:22:16 PM

Quote from: JimmyJava on June 14, 2011, 04:44:17 PM
It fits right into the "So Energy! Powah!" category.

So heavy a sound!

Nekov · June 14, 2011, 07:17:10 PM

Quote from: wolfking on June 14, 2011, 04:50:14 PM
It's just very boring and uninspired, I'm not a fan.

And for once I will agree with Aniland...

Quote from: Aniland on June 14, 2011, 04:53:43 PM
Because it's terrible music

chrisbDTM · June 14, 2011, 07:18:42 PM

i like it. the solo tapping is perfect

ResultsMayVary · June 14, 2011, 07:44:15 PM

Raw Dog is a song I can play when I'm feeling a DT song of straight metal and ridiculousness.

jdprsaga · June 14, 2011, 08:41:31 PM

I just can say that from about 5:49 to the end of the song it sounds like an endless epic fight between two mythic creatures.. If somebody can not hear that.........

So if that doesn't fit the theme of the game.. nothing else can.

JayOctavarium · June 15, 2011, 01:54:56 AM

Raw Dog = God (of) War (backwards)

I like it. Dont Love it... Dont Hate it... can see bits of it used in an instrumedly type thing

FretMuppet · June 15, 2011, 02:05:14 AM

Good song

Kosmo · June 15, 2011, 02:09:53 AM

It sounds like a compilation of rejected ideas.

Portrucci · June 15, 2011, 02:13:01 AM

It's terrible. A hallmark of all that was really going awry with Dream Theater at that time. Lifeless riffs...overproduced blandness. A change definitely needed to occur....and I think the band is in a much better place now.

MajorMatt · June 15, 2011, 02:46:14 AM

Love the riff @ 1:23, makes me want to smash shit up

rumborak · June 15, 2011, 03:44:13 AM

Whatever you might think of the song, it was definitely not a worthy exit song for MP.

rumborak

ReaPsTA · June 15, 2011, 03:49:50 AM

Quote from: rumborak on June 15, 2011, 03:44:13 AM
Whatever you might think of the song, it was definitely not a worthy exit song for MP.

rumborak

I sort of agree. It would have been a little more poetic if TCOT was the last we heard of his drumming.

But it's not like he did a bad job on Raw Dog. I actually really like a lot of the drumming.

hefdaddy42 · June 15, 2011, 04:01:26 AM

Quote from: Kosmo on June 15, 2011, 02:09:53 AM
It sounds like a compilation of rejected ideas.

That's exactly what it is.

nikatapi · June 15, 2011, 04:02:12 AM

Awful production, the song is just a copy paste of random ideas into one song.

ReaPsTA · June 15, 2011, 04:13:25 AM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 15, 2011, 04:01:26 AM
Quote from: Kosmo on June 15, 2011, 02:09:53 AM
It sounds like a compilation of rejected ideas.

That's exactly what it is.

Technically, I guess yeah (although I think they did write some of it in the studio). But the combination of the ideas has a flow to it. And honestly I'm shocked some of these were rejected.

Quote from: nikatapi on June 15, 2011, 04:02:12 AM
Awful production,

What!?

nikatapi · June 15, 2011, 04:20:39 AM

Ι think drums sound like shit, and i don't like the guitar tone either. I also think it is a bit brickwalled.

Sixtease · June 15, 2011, 04:47:58 AM

Oh I love raw dog. Hell, I hate condoms!

I'm listening to the song for the first time now on YouTube and I actually do like it, although it's totally unmemorable. It's quite a headbanger, and the sound kicks ass. Brickwalled? Yes. But in this case, I don't mind at all.

Bolsters · June 15, 2011, 05:02:18 AM

S'ok. I'm not a big fan of it but I have felt compelled to listen to it every now and then since I got it.

rumborak · June 15, 2011, 05:21:04 AM

I think the knowledge of how the song came to be didn't exactly help. IIRC it was written and recorded in a matter of 3 days.
Opeth on the other hand put a really good song on that album.

rumborak

axeman90210 · June 15, 2011, 05:39:06 AM

Great, I had finally managed to make myself forget that Raw Dog even existed, and then this thread had to come along

EpicCookie · June 15, 2011, 05:50:25 AM

I think the problem with this song is, is that it doesn't really sound like Dream Theater... It's not a bad song or something but I don't really like it, maybe it needs some getting used to?

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