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SDV and TSCO with blues Jam Intro. Live from Tarrytown NY.

Started by tjanuranus, January 24, 2011, 12:29:24 AM

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Elsydeon

Quote from: John94 on January 24, 2011, 08:44:05 AM
Thank you! Love it. Absolutely love it.

How was Coming Home? I love that song from SI.
Very good. Im glad they chose to play it, I think it went over very well

Global Laziness

Does anyone have a video of Coming Home? I'd love to hear that.

Scrub206

its totally adorable how the wizard and the pirate are such good like friends. they seem to be always doing stuff together and hangin out and now this xD


but excellent performance. i was going to go but i didnt get tickets :(

skydivingninja

Yeah, MP saying the DT guys weren't good friends with each other anymore, when we've had the JR/JLB youtube vids since last tour was a very silly statement.

Didn't know they played Coming Home, that would've been great to see.

As for SDV live, I loved it.  Gave me a new appreciation for it.  JR didn't ruin it at all.

DarkLord_Lalinc

I know SDV is the big discussion matter right now, but I'm just dropping by to say JLB's blues rendition is fantastic. He's truly a gifted singer.

Lowdz

thanks to you and your good lady for the footage. great to get to see this moment of history.

Mebert78

Just found this on YouTube from last night's show.  It's a higher-quality camera footage with a backstage interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LItltT4fcrM
An unofficial online community for fans of keyboardist Kevin Moore:


Ben_Jamin

Excellent rendition of SDV. Loved how JR filled in the gaps to make it more enjoyable than staying with the original keyboard parts since it would've been boring with just piano

DeanTheater

Thanks for Posting.  I love SDV and yearned to see it performed in any way live.  This was nice to see.  I Love this song.  I found this initmate rendition excellent.  thanks again.  I qwish I was there but I am 40 yrs old with 3 kids under 5.  just doesnt happen any more.  thanks gods fors the Interwebs!!

VioletS16

Quote from: Mebert78 on January 24, 2011, 11:47:19 AM
Just found this on YouTube from last night's show.  It's a higher-quality camera footage with a backstage interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LItltT4fcrM
Close-up James's hair is bearable.
Yay.

MetropolisxPt1

Quote from: Perpetual Change on January 24, 2011, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: SnakeEyes on January 24, 2011, 12:43:50 AM
Jordan's playing on this is phenominal.  James was awesome, but I was thoroughly disappointed that he didn't sing the last verse of Spirit Carries On (after the solo) high, like he normally does.  Very anti-climactic, in my opinion, especially after the amazing piano solo.  Otherwise, great! 

It sounds like Jordan changed the key around a little. I'm not sure.
He was playing a harmony the key was the same.

bloop


millahh

Quote from: parallax
QuoteWHEN WILL YOU ADRESS MY MONKEY ARGUMENT?? ?? NEVER?? ?? THAT\' WHAT I FIGURED.: lol[\quote]

SnakeEyes

So, if this version of Space Dye Vest is a cover, does that mean Wait for Sleep is a cover when only James and Jordan play it?

Elsydeon

Quote from: SnakeEyes on January 24, 2011, 06:51:08 PM
So, if this version of Space Dye Vest is a cover, does that mean Wait for Sleep is a cover when only James and Jordan play it?
well wait for sleep doesn't have drums or guitar in the song.

LCArenas

Quote from: cyberdrummer on January 24, 2011, 08:35:27 AM
Through Her Eyes and Coming Home (JLB solo).
YES
YES
OH MY GOD THEY READ MY MIND MAN
I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY AND THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!
DOES ANYBODY HAVE THIS RECORDED?

Anyway, great version. Really great version. Thanks a lot for posting this, OP!

Sir GuitarCozmo

Very nice.  Extremely well done.  I'm slightly on the fence though.  While JR filled in it very nicely with flourishes here and there to keep it from dragging where the samples should be, I felt like he was a little too heavy handed.  Best example of this I can give is at 8:33.  It's a little too much.  For me, part of the beauty of the song is the way it goes out as bare bones and quietly as it started.  Here's he's really arpeggiating the chords slightly and hitting them hard and it's like "look at this powerful finish!"  Maybe it's just me.

Not meaning to take away from this though, because it was quite good.  Thanks for posting it.

dethklok09


tumbok

what a superb performance!!

i got chills watching the videos.

hmm, anyway, i wonder if JP and JM, or the new guy was in Tarrytown for the concert.

i myself would absolutely watch a solo concert of my close friend if i were JP or JM.

Cool Chris

Thank you so much for videotaping and posting this. What a treat from Jordan and the Cap'n. I thought Jordan did a great job balancing himself between staying true to the original and putting in his own flourishes, especially since there were no samples.

Which also leads me more and more to feel like SDV without the samples is like sex without the cuddling.
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

The Letter M

Quote from: Cool Chris on January 24, 2011, 08:56:01 PM
Thank you so much for videotaping and posting this. What a treat from Jordan and the Cap'n. I thought Jordan did a great job balancing himself between staying true to the original and putting in his own flourishes, especially since there were no samples.

Which also leads me more and more to feel like SDV without the samples is like sex without the cuddling.

...so, what's that make JR's flourishes? Scratches/biting/clawing?

I mean that in a good way...of course.

But yes, it's a bit odd to hear it without them, but I think it sort of works the way JR played it. I think if the rest of the band wanted to do it, though, they'd probably try to stay closer to the original, but I guess we'd have to wait and see...

-Marc.

Perpetual Change

Quote from: Cool Chris on January 24, 2011, 08:56:01 PM
Thank you so much for videotaping and posting this. What a treat from Jordan and the Cap'n. I thought Jordan did a great job balancing himself between staying true to the original and putting in his own flourishes, especially since there were no samples.

Which also leads me more and more to feel like SDV without the samples is like sex without the cuddling.

More like lack of sex with all the loneliness but without any of the crazy introspection and insanity that makes you appear to be a deeper person than everyone else.

SnakeEyes

Quote from: Elsydeon on January 24, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
well wait for sleep doesn't have drums or guitar in the song.

Okay, so on Live in Tokyo, when the full band plays the song, is Dream Theater covering Wait for Sleep, by Kevin Moore and James LaBrie?

ariich

The instrumentation is irrelevant, I'm not sure why Elsydeon brought it up. The fact is that Wait for Sleep is played at Dream Theater shows, so no it isn't a cover. If SDV is played at a DT show (even in this form) then it's not a cover. But this was just Jordan doing his own version at his own solo gig.

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

SnakeEyes

I personally still don't think of it as a "cover."  I know it's not "DT," but it's so close that it's kind of absurd to label it as a cover.  It's just members of DT performing one of their songs.  How is that a cover?

Scrub206


millahh

I finally start delving back into the DT side of the forum, and this inane cover debate is what I'm greeted with?  Seriously?


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...I'll never be open again....
Quote from: parallax
QuoteWHEN WILL YOU ADRESS MY MONKEY ARGUMENT?? ?? NEVER?? ?? THAT\' WHAT I FIGURED.: lol[\quote]

Sir GuitarCozmo

Seems trivial to me.  SDV and Wait for Sleep both appeared on DT albums.  No matter who plays them, it's DT.  Period.

cyberdrummer



Jamesman42

Regarding TSCO:

Quote from: Perpetual Change on January 24, 2011, 12:45:33 AM
It sounds like Jordan changed the key around a little. I'm not sure.

Everything sounds the same chord-wise/musically (besides the obvious extra notes which I love). Then again, I have some relative pitch, but I don't hear anything out of place from the studio version.

As for his melody choice on the last verse, I can say that he was probably just trying something different. Same key, but higher notes, and different intervals between the notes, and it did sound a little bluesy (though not much). I do this sometimes when I am playing songs on my acoustic, and I know I can reach those notes singing, and I starting a new melody line on a different note...if you feel it out starting on that note and can stay in key, your melody line will change and sound different, but still in tune with the key of the song. I personally though JLB did a fantastic switch there.
\o\ lol /o/

ariich

I agree with da Jamesmang. There was definitely no key shifting during the song, so unless he started in a different key (which I don't think he did) then it was all as normal, so was probably just the Cap'n changing things up.

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

The Letter M

Quote from: Jamesman on January 25, 2011, 03:24:44 PM
Regarding TSCO:

Quote from: Perpetual Change on January 24, 2011, 12:45:33 AM
It sounds like Jordan changed the key around a little. I'm not sure.

Everything sounds the same chord-wise/musically (besides the obvious extra notes which I love). Then again, I have some relative pitch, but I don't hear anything out of place from the studio version.

As for his melody choice on the last verse, I can say that he was probably just trying something different. Same key, but higher notes, and different intervals between the notes, and it did sound a little bluesy (though not much). I do this sometimes when I am playing songs on my acoustic, and I know I can reach those notes singing, and I starting a new melody line on a different note...if you feel it out starting on that note and can stay in key, your melody line will change and sound different, but still in tune with the key of the song. I personally though JLB did a fantastic switch there.

This exactly. I loved how JLB took a chance and changed some of the melodic lines around a bit. It was definitely a great way to spice up a tried-and-true fan-favorite and the changes definitely made me perk up a bit and say "Hey...that's something new..." and then nod in agreement to the screen, as if my approval would somehow be seen or acknowledged by JLB himself...

-Marc.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Jamesman42

\o\ lol /o/