Rudess's Dream Theater "covers"

JayOctavarium · January 12, 2011, 12:52:20 AM

Ok... So why is it that when JR plays a DT song solo, it's labeled as a cover? I was browsing JR on setlist.fm... and during the Explorations show, 6doit is labeled as a cover... He help write it, so why does it have to be called a "cover"? Or if Petrucci were to play part of, lets say... Erotomania... Or even The Silent Man or Wither... Would those have to be labeled as covers as well?

simba · January 12, 2011, 01:34:35 AM

because the world is fucked up

ReaPsTA · January 12, 2011, 04:03:41 AM

(a) Dream Theater isn't playing the song. Jordan Rudess is doing it on his own.

(b) It's not like JR is just playing the song straight up. He's rearranging it and retooling it to match his own personal style.

lordxizor · January 12, 2011, 05:49:26 AM

A cover is basically defined as a band or artist playing a song written by a different band or artist. JR is not DT, therefore it's a cover.

Zydar · January 12, 2011, 06:33:55 AM

What if when Paul McCartney is performing songs like Yesterday, Got To Get You Into My Life, and All My Loving - he is actually playing Beatles covers? He wrote them, so it can't count?

scoutmasterdave · January 12, 2011, 09:13:58 AM

Quote from: lordxizor on January 12, 2011, 05:49:26 AM
A cover is basically defined as a band or artist playing a song written by a different band or artist. JR is not DT, therefore it's a cover.

Agreed.

jsem · January 12, 2011, 10:29:55 AM

JR didn't write any one DT song by himself that I can recall. I believe he wrote Overture in SDOIT, but it's part of an epic.

skydivingninja · January 12, 2011, 11:04:55 AM

Quote from: jsem on January 12, 2011, 10:29:55 AM
JR didn't write any one DT song by himself that I can recall. I believe he wrote Overture in SDOIT, but it's part of an epic.

This. Plus, on Notes on a Dream he was covering lots of DT from before he joined the band.

pain of occupation · January 12, 2011, 11:13:55 AM

Quote from: Zydar on January 12, 2011, 06:33:55 AM
What if when Paul McCartney is performing songs like Yesterday, Got To Get You Into My Life, and All My Loving - he is actually playing Beatles covers? He wrote them, so it can't count?

good point. paul must then be doing covers.

Zukuduku · January 12, 2011, 01:29:46 PM

Quote from: jsem on January 12, 2011, 10:29:55 AM
JR didn't write any one DT song by himself that I can recall. I believe he wrote Overture in SDOIT, but it's part of an epic.

Well, according to the interviews, Finally Free was very much Jordan's composition. AFAIK he even wrote the vocal melodies, even though MP wrote the lyrics. Making of SFAM album BTW has JR's first sequencer demo of the song. It sounded very good even then!

OptionalPlayer · January 12, 2011, 05:05:29 PM

Here's something to throw at you guys.

Take whatever "Guns N' Roses" are right now.

When Axl Rose does "Sweet Child of Mine," is it a cover or not?

Now when Slash on his solo tour does "Sweet Child of Mine," is it a cover or not?

Now stop there, and re-read Mike Portnoy's Twitter post on January 4th:

"Mike Portnoy
Today is 2 years since I lost my father, idol & best friend...RIP Popz...give a listen to "The Best Of Times" (MP version) in his honor.."
He's referring to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS2trjjFZ_U

Now let me ask you, what is a cover?

OptionalPlayer · January 12, 2011, 05:07:09 PM

I felt like that post I just made was an Old Spice Commercial.

Stop. Listen to this cover. Stop. Now listen to this cover. Stop again. What is a cover?

The Letter M · January 12, 2011, 05:12:12 PM

Technically, Roger Waters just covered The Wall... so. Yeah.

-Marc.

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