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Old Petrucci footage from 94

Started by Lynxo, November 15, 2010, 09:13:34 AM

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Lynxo

Just ran across this on YouYube - it's from a NAMM event from 1994. It's really, really good actually. (Aside from the horrible drum track that is. :P )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNRX_5o2YD8&feature=related

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Aniland

Oh shit, John Petrucci used to look like that. It's the same feeling I get when I see 2008 pictures of Obama.

ReaperKK

Man Petrucci's playing was so great back then.

antigoon


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ReaperKK

Quote from: BrotherH on November 15, 2010, 07:37:19 PM
Quote from: ReaperKK on November 15, 2010, 06:42:28 PM
Man Petrucci's playing was so great back then.

Still is...

Hey got boring . . .

His playing doesn't really appeal to me now a days.

SnakeEyes

JP was SO amazing back then.  In those days, he was fast AND played interesting things..... now he's .... just fast. 

lithium112

Man, I don't know what you guys are talking about. BC&SL had some amazingly melodic solos on it. Yeah, "old" Petrucci was awesome, but new Petrucci is even more awesome. I think he's grown as both a guitarist and a song-writer.
:hefdaddy to JP then and now

yeshaberto


5

I miss that jazzy flavor he used to add to his soloing. And his tone was amazing back then, now it's in dire need of  turning the gain down and the mids up.

AwakeFromOctavarium

Quote from: 5 on November 16, 2010, 02:26:34 AM
I miss that jazzy flavor he used to add to his soloing. And his tone was amazing back then, now it's in dire need of  turning the gain down and the mids up.
I really agree with this post. From start to finish.

5

Quote from: AwakeFromOctavarium on November 16, 2010, 02:36:59 AM
Quote from: 5 on November 16, 2010, 02:26:34 AM
I miss that jazzy flavor he used to add to his soloing. And his tone was amazing back then, now it's in dire need of  turning the gain down and the mids up.
I really agree with this post. From start to finish.

Thank you.

ZKX-2099

Quote from: lithium112 on November 15, 2010, 09:39:27 PM
Man, I don't know what you guys are talking about. BC&SL had some amazingly melodic solos on it. Yeah, "old" Petrucci was awesome, but new Petrucci is even more awesome. I think he's grown as both a guitarist and a song-writer.
:hefdaddy to JP then and now


Yep.

5

Quote from: ZKX-2099 on November 16, 2010, 02:59:35 AM
Quote from: lithium112 on November 15, 2010, 09:39:27 PM
Man, I don't know what you guys are talking about. BC&SL had some amazingly melodic solos on it. Yeah, "old" Petrucci was awesome, but new Petrucci is even more awesome. I think he's grown as both a guitarist and a song-writer.
:hefdaddy to JP then and now


Yep.

I'm afraid I have to disagree. For me, JPs playing is getting progressively (see what I did there?) stock and uninspired. His tone is getting more and more generic shred, his ideas more and more derivative and simply boring. Lately, I've been listening to a lot of Paul Gilbert's work and it seems to me that him and JP undergoing the same evolution - but backwards. While PG's playing gets more thoughtful, his tone more juicy and interesting as time goes by, JPs work gets more thoughtless, mechanical standard shred.

Dream Team

Quote from: 5 on November 16, 2010, 03:05:56 AM
Quote from: ZKX-2099 on November 16, 2010, 02:59:35 AM
Quote from: lithium112 on November 15, 2010, 09:39:27 PM
Man, I don't know what you guys are talking about. BC&SL had some amazingly melodic solos on it. Yeah, "old" Petrucci was awesome, but new Petrucci is even more awesome. I think he's grown as both a guitarist and a song-writer.
:hefdaddy to JP then and now


Yep.

I'm afraid I have to disagree. For me, JPs playing is getting progressively (see what I did there?) stock and uninspired. His tone is getting more and more generic shred, his ideas more and more derivative and simply boring. Lately, I've been listening to a lot of Paul Gilbert's work and it seems to me that him and JP undergoing the same evolution - but backwards. While PG's playing gets more thoughtful, his tone more juicy and interesting as time goes by, JPs work gets more thoughtless, mechanical standard shred.

You haven't heard any of their albums since Train of Thought I take it.

5

Quote from: Dream Team on November 16, 2010, 05:53:19 AM
Quote from: 5 on November 16, 2010, 03:05:56 AM
Quote from: ZKX-2099 on November 16, 2010, 02:59:35 AM
Quote from: lithium112 on November 15, 2010, 09:39:27 PM
Man, I don't know what you guys are talking about. BC&SL had some amazingly melodic solos on it. Yeah, "old" Petrucci was awesome, but new Petrucci is even more awesome. I think he's grown as both a guitarist and a song-writer.
:hefdaddy to JP then and now


Yep.

I'm afraid I have to disagree. For me, JPs playing is getting progressively (see what I did there?) stock and uninspired. His tone is getting more and more generic shred, his ideas more and more derivative and simply boring. Lately, I've been listening to a lot of Paul Gilbert's work and it seems to me that him and JP undergoing the same evolution - but backwards. While PG's playing gets more thoughtful, his tone more juicy and interesting as time goes by, JPs work gets more thoughtless, mechanical standard shred.

You haven't heard any of their albums since Train of Thought I take it.

On the contrary, my friend. ToT and 8VM were my first DT albums.

antigoon

The thing with Petrucci is that I always feel bad criticizing his current style, because his playing is what makes the two most recent albums listenable. He's still phenomenal, I just really liked the way he played back then.

Dream Team

Quote from: antigoon on November 16, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
The thing with Petrucci is that I always feel bad criticizing his current style, because his playing is what makes the two most recent albums listenable. He's still phenomenal, I just really liked the way he played back then.

Got ya, that's a much more diplomatic and accurate way to say it. I too prefer the old Ibanez sound, but I think JP's playing is still great AND I bet he still has some nice surprises in store for us.

j

Quote from: 5 on November 16, 2010, 02:26:34 AM
I miss that jazzy flavor he used to add to his soloing. And his tone was amazing back then, now it's in dire need of  turning the gain down and the mids up.

Quote from: antigoon on November 16, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
The thing with Petrucci is that I always feel bad criticizing his current style, because his playing is what makes the two most recent albums listenable. He's still phenomenal, I just really liked the way he played back then.

These.  He's still incredible, but the selfish fan in me would like to hear more creative genre-spanning stuff from him. *shrug*

-J

5

Quote from: Dream Team on November 16, 2010, 07:11:33 AM
Quote from: antigoon on November 16, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
The thing with Petrucci is that I always feel bad criticizing his current style, because his playing is what makes the two most recent albums listenable. He's still phenomenal, I just really liked the way he played back then.


Got ya, that's a much more diplomatic and accurate way to say it. I too prefer the old Ibanez sound, but I think JP's playing is still great AND I bet he still has some nice surprises in store for us.

I don't think my way of putting it was any less diplomatic - what I have just said is that I believe that JPs playing on DT's latest two albums is boring and stale. And it can't be accurate or inaccurate since it's an opinion. No bashing involved, I still love JP!

That said, given the recent situation in DT camp - I have high hopes for the future. :)

TheOutlawXanadu

Quote from: antigoon on November 16, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
The thing with Petrucci is that I always feel bad criticizing his current style, because his playing is what makes the two most recent albums listenable. He's still phenomenal, I just really liked the way he played back then.

The way I see it: His playing was way more interesting back in the day.

pogoowner

Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on November 16, 2010, 09:48:55 AM
Quote from: antigoon on November 16, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
The thing with Petrucci is that I always feel bad criticizing his current style, because his playing is what makes the two most recent albums listenable. He's still phenomenal, I just really liked the way he played back then.

The way I see it: His playing was way more interesting back in the day.
It definitely was. And he didn't use so much freaking delay on his leads either.

antigoon

Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on November 16, 2010, 09:48:55 AM
Quote from: antigoon on November 16, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
The thing with Petrucci is that I always feel bad criticizing his current style, because his playing is what makes the two most recent albums listenable. He's still phenomenal, I just really liked the way he played back then.

The way I see it: His playing was way more interesting back in the day.
Yeah. You're completely right.

LKap13

Wow, amazing. This should be the first track on the next album. I'd love to hear what JR and the guys would do.

Global Laziness

Funny, I was just watching the commentary on the Live in Tokyo (1993) DVD last night and thinking about how awesome it would be if they still did jazzier jam sessions (à la the To Live Forever guitar solo jam) rather than the shreddier jams they do these days (the extended version of Solitary Shell comes to mind - it was rather disappointing at the 2009 Montreal PN show).