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Started by darkshade, September 13, 2010, 07:18:47 AM

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Quote from: The Letter M on September 13, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
And regarding Awake, from the Awake Demos CD:
QuoteIn February 1994, we moved into Prince Studios in New York City to begin the writing process... The only existing ideas upon starting were "Puppies On Acid" (the intro to The Mirror - which we were playing live on the I&W tour as an intro to Take The Time), a few bits and pieces of what would become Erotomania (they were originally part of Pull Me Under - see the Images And Words Demos) and The Silent Man (which JP had written at the end of 1993 and he, James and Kev even performed it on Korean TV while we were there for a promotional tour in Jan 1994). The writing process soon began and were [sic] were underway. Never at a loss for ideas, the wheels were spinning quickly and the dealing hanging over our head only seemed to motivate us even more.
According to MP's tourography, a riff that would later be used in Innocence Faded, was played as part of a jam in '93:
https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=150

ThroughHerEyesDude6

Quote from: rumborak on September 15, 2010, 07:21:06 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on September 15, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
True, but it was such a small part of the 20-minute demo that was used on the final album. A lot of that jamming was later transformed in the studio into something new, or dropped entirely.

The demo had Overture and Strange Deja Vu in it, and parts of TDOE I think. Sure, it's not the whole album, but claiming that the whole album was written in the studio just isn't true really. And who knows where other parts of SFAM came from, i.e. of which we don't have a recorded record of.

rumborak


I concur. The one time I heard the demo I distinctly remember O1928, SD, & TDOE as snippets. I don't remember much else, but thank you all for shedding more light on it.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: rumborak on September 15, 2010, 07:21:06 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on September 15, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
True, but it was such a small part of the 20-minute demo that was used on the final album. A lot of that jamming was later transformed in the studio into something new, or dropped entirely.

The demo had Overture and Strange Deja Vu in it, and parts of TDOE I think. Sure, it's not the whole album, but claiming that the whole album was written in the studio just isn't true really. And who knows where other parts of SFAM came from, i.e. of which we don't have a recorded record of.

rumborak

The rest of it was written in the studio.  That was one of the points of Jordan joining the band: MP & JP wanted DT to write/record simultaneously like they had done the LTE albums with JR.  Sure, they used a few sections from the Metropolis Pt. 2 demo as a starting ground, but the rest was completed in-studio.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Orbert

Completed in-studio.  That's really the only point I was trying to make.  Usually when a band says the entire album was written in the studio, they mean that they started with nothing, jammed a while, got some licks and things they thought sounded good, and worked things into songs and instrumentals.  Maybe some of the guys had some riffs or ideas they'd been knocking around, like "Puppies on Acid".  If you've already got a 20-minute piece of music and you work with it and flesh it out into a concept album, that's great, but you didn't exactly write the whole album in the studio.

bosk1

Quote from: orcus116 on September 13, 2010, 10:33:44 AM
It's just an act. We all know bosk has Kevin Moore bedsheets.

Not true!

Just Underoos.  No bedsheets.

MirzekDT

Quote from: ThroughHerEyesDude6 on September 16, 2010, 12:15:47 AM
Quote from: rumborak on September 15, 2010, 07:21:06 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on September 15, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
True, but it was such a small part of the 20-minute demo that was used on the final album. A lot of that jamming was later transformed in the studio into something new, or dropped entirely.

The demo had Overture and Strange Deja Vu in it, and parts of TDOE I think. Sure, it's not the whole album, but claiming that the whole album was written in the studio just isn't true really. And who knows where other parts of SFAM came from, i.e. of which we don't have a recorded record of.

rumborak


I concur. The one time I heard the demo I distinctly remember O1928, SD, & TDOE as snippets. I don't remember much else, but thank you all for shedding more light on it.

One Last Time too actually I can't believe nobody mentioned it yet there's whole or at least almost whole song there at the end

rumborak

Oh, so that one too. So yeah, from ToT on where the "get into the studio and write album in 3 weeks" modus operandi was instated, there was a bit of revisionist history going on, claiming that essentially all albums had been written that way, when they weren't really.

rumborak