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Re: The Zappa Thread
« Reply #735 on: July 15, 2016, 07:04:36 AM »
Wow.  No, I haven't been following any of that.

Dweezil always seemed to me to be the one most like Frank.  Obviously he looks quite a bit like him and has inherited the musical talent, but also just seems like a really cool guy.  Moon is just a kinduv nutty whacked-out chick.  But Ahmet I could never read.  He seemed angry about something all the time, a bit arrogant and abrasive, but I couldn't tell if that was just his persona or what.  To find out that he really is an asshole doesn't surprise me.

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« Reply #736 on: July 15, 2016, 08:26:10 AM »
Yeah, the whole thing is really lame. Dweezil is so talented and obviously passionate about his dad's music, and Ahmet appears to just be a douche at this point.

Wow. I wanted to go to that but had work, now I'm glad I didn't.

Nah, you still missed a totally badass set. Plus, Red Rocks! And Umphrey's was a lot of fun, even though I don't know them well at all.
They have a new singer in the band who is really amazing. Scheila is still my fave- that woman can blow and sing like it's nobody's business.
As much as it sucks, I think they're just trying to find ways to keep playing without drama. I'm sure this whole thing will continue to unfold...
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« Reply #737 on: July 15, 2016, 09:37:54 AM »
Wow, I haven't heard anything about this.  This was Zappa Plays Zappa?  But Ahmet's being a dick about something?


I don't know where to find another link about it but this video Dweezil posted on his FB explains it a little.

https://www.facebook.com/DweezilZappaOfficial/videos/1275814179102895/

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« Reply #738 on: July 15, 2016, 10:27:37 AM »
Haven't really taken a side with the drama as both sides of the story seem to be leaving out key information. Also for selfish reasons, I like what Dweezil does and frankly the ZFT has improved significantly since Ahmet took the reigns.
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« Reply #739 on: July 15, 2016, 11:07:09 AM »
Currently trying to find out who the brunette is, the one who plays sax and keyboards and sings.  She's hot.  Kinda reminds me of Minnie Driver when she was hot.

Edit: Oh, that's Scheila!  Cool.

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« Reply #740 on: July 19, 2016, 06:30:22 PM »
Is the album discussion going to continue?  I was really enjoying it.

I *just* bought Lumpy Gravy, and I've been spinning Uncle Meat as well.   
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« Reply #741 on: July 19, 2016, 08:55:35 PM »
I hope it continues. I've only just recently started to get into Zappa and I'd love to follow along with the thread.

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« Reply #742 on: July 19, 2016, 09:00:20 PM »
It's my favorite thread on the forum currently, so I hope so.
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Re: The Zappa Thread
« Reply #743 on: July 20, 2016, 01:22:13 AM »
Wow, I haven't heard anything about this.  This was Zappa Plays Zappa?  But Ahmet's being a dick about something?


I don't know where to find another link about it but this video Dweezil posted on his FB explains it a little.

https://www.facebook.com/DweezilZappaOfficial/videos/1275814179102895/

Well, he posted a long email-conversation/reaction piece on his site a while ago, refuting some claims made by Ahmet (who does sound like a whiney bitch) but off course, as ever, the truth will be somewhere in the middle. He also claims that Gail was the one that ran the Zappa Family Trust (and Vaulternative records) into the ground due to mismanagement. So yeah, things weren't too rosey in the Zappa Familyhood, to say the least.
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« Reply #744 on: July 20, 2016, 06:42:56 AM »
Currently trying to find out who the brunette is, the one who plays sax and keyboards and sings.  She's hot.  Kinda reminds me of Minnie Driver when she was hot.

Edit: Oh, that's Scheila!  Cool.

That would be ubber talented and yes foxy Scheila Gonzales.

https://www.dweezilzappaworld.com/pages/bio-scheila-gonzalez

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« Reply #745 on: July 21, 2016, 05:11:21 PM »
I decided to finally take the plunge and explore the world of zappa. So far I've only heard (in discog order): Freak Out, Lumpy Gravy, Uncle Meat, Hot Rats, Weasels ripped My Flesh Waka/Jawaka, Over Night Sensation, and Apostrophe. So far I think I like Uncle Meat, Hot Rats, and Apostrophe the most. Definitely looking forward to checking out more.

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Re: The Zappa Thread
« Reply #746 on: July 21, 2016, 10:03:27 PM »
Try one of the live albums next, that's where Zappa gets really fun. Roxy is the obvious first choice.
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Re: The Zappa Thread
« Reply #747 on: July 22, 2016, 08:07:24 AM »
Seconded.  Roxy & Elsewhere.

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« Reply #748 on: July 24, 2016, 12:36:50 PM »
I also hope the discography thread continues soon.

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« Reply #749 on: July 24, 2016, 03:16:12 PM »
Have you all heard about this new documentary out? I'm hoping to go see it next weekend...
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« Reply #750 on: July 24, 2016, 10:19:53 PM »
Yes, but I'm having a hard time figuring out when/where it is showing. I know it's in Denver and maybe the Mayan? Do you know when the showings are?
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« Reply #751 on: July 25, 2016, 11:30:16 AM »
Took the advice given and listened to roxy and elswhere...REALLY enjoyed it, probably now in the top 3 of all the Zappa I've heard so far (my other two favorites being Hot Rats and Uncle Meat).

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« Reply #752 on: July 25, 2016, 05:21:18 PM »
Yes, but I'm having a hard time figuring out when/where it is showing. I know it's in Denver and maybe the Mayan? Do you know when the showings are?

https://www.landmarktheatres.com/denver/mayan-theatre

I'm planning to go Sunday afternoon if you want to join our crew! Not sure on showtimes yet though since they're not up.
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« Reply #753 on: July 25, 2016, 07:44:18 PM »
Would love to but I usually work on Sunday. :( I'm off Wednesday so I'm probably going to give that a shot.
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« Reply #754 on: July 26, 2016, 09:07:28 AM »
Sweet, let us know how it is!
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« Reply #756 on: July 27, 2016, 04:31:39 AM »
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« Reply #757 on: July 27, 2016, 05:31:54 AM »
I'm sure this has been brought up at some point in this thread, or maybe it hasn't. What is everyone's favorite Zappa albums?

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« Reply #758 on: July 27, 2016, 07:35:57 AM »
One size fits all, We're only in it for the money, You are what you is.
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« Reply #760 on: July 27, 2016, 08:58:51 AM »
I'm sure this has been brought up at some point in this thread, or maybe it hasn't. What is everyone's favorite Zappa albums?
Two from each decade:
Hot Rats, We're Only In It For the Money
Zappa In New York, Sheik Yer Bouti
YCDTOSA 2: The Helsinki Tapes (recorded in the 70s but released 1988), Tinseltown Rebellion
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« Reply #761 on: July 27, 2016, 07:52:14 PM »
Sweet, let us know how it is!
Good stuff. I was expecting a lot of it to be stuff I've already seen before but they surprised me with some new interview/concert footage. Was a very "surface level" view of Frank but still very enjoyable.
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« Reply #762 on: July 28, 2016, 06:21:34 AM »
I love the underrated (and unfortunately badly dated) Broadway the Hard Way.
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« Reply #763 on: July 28, 2016, 08:50:34 AM »
Sweet, let us know how it is!
Good stuff. I was expecting a lot of it to be stuff I've already seen before but they surprised me with some new interview/concert footage. Was a very "surface level" view of Frank but still very enjoyable.

Awesome, still planning on going Sunday!

And I couldn't make it all the way through that letter, but ughh.
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« Reply #764 on: July 28, 2016, 09:29:39 AM »
One size fits all, We're only in it for the money, You are what you is.

I've heard One Size Fits All and We're Only in it for the Money. Those are two really good ones.

I'm sure this has been brought up at some point in this thread, or maybe it hasn't. What is everyone's favorite Zappa albums?
Two from each decade:
Hot Rats, We're Only In It For the Money
Zappa In New York, Sheik Yer Bouti
YCDTOSA 2: The Helsinki Tapes (recorded in the 70s but released 1988), Tinseltown Rebellion
The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life, Make A Jazz Noise Here

Hot Rats and Tinseltown Rebellion are my two favorites. Sheik Yer Bouti (awesome title) is another really good one.

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Re: The Zappa Thread
« Reply #765 on: July 28, 2016, 10:29:13 AM »
Sorry to be the pedant, but this is Zappa.  Serious business.  The title of the album is Sheik Yerbouti.  It's the name of the persona on the cover.



Best part is, for years, I didn't realize that the correct pronunciation of the word "sheik" is "shake", thus it's even a better pun than I thought.  Mostly people I knew pronounce it "sheek", and still do.

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« Reply #766 on: July 29, 2016, 12:21:40 AM »
I didn't know that either! Awesome!
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« Reply #767 on: July 29, 2016, 12:46:04 AM »
I'm sure this has been brought up at some point in this thread, or maybe it hasn't. What is everyone's favorite Zappa albums?

Absolutely Free, Burnt Weeny Sandwich, Waka/Jawaka, Apostrophe, Joe's Garage, Hot Rats, Zappa in New York, Roxy & Elsewhere, You Are What You Is (though the third side gets a bit tedious at times, I admit), Sheik Yerbouti, probably Uncle Meat as well. Though my most listened to albums nowadays are those from the You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore series.
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« Reply #768 on: July 29, 2016, 01:59:38 AM »
Sheik Yerboutti was the first Zappa album I ever heard and it clicked instantly with me. I remember thinking about the title: 'gee, that's really clever'.
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« Reply #769 on: July 29, 2016, 07:47:13 AM »
I'd heard One Size Fits All years before, but that was in junior high and I had no money.  Sheik Yerbouti came out when I when in high school and had a job, so it was the first Zappa I actually owned.  He had a minor radio hit with "Dancing Fool" (a song about a guy who can't dance?!  :lol) and "sheek yerbouti" seemed to be a pun which fit the dancing theme.

Years later, I was watching some news thing about Arab oil and they were talking about the sheiks who were all multi-zillionaires, and they kept pronouncing it "shake".  Then it hit me: "shake yerbouti".  :omg:

Also, to this day the guitar solo in "Yo Mama" is still my favorite.