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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #245 on: May 23, 2013, 09:57:16 PM »
I don't know, adace - BGWtB seems to be more of a grower for me than what I've heard from TDPDH so far.

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #246 on: May 23, 2013, 10:39:10 PM »
I guess my main issue is that BGWtB feels more concise than this record which is why that one clicked more easily with me. That plus BGWtB is one of my all-time favorite records (so yeah, I'm pretty biased there :laugh:).

But anyways, I've been playing the new one some more and I'm digging it more and more. There's really not a bad moment on it and the production is fantastic like on the last one.

I'm leaning towards a 9.5/10 at the moment. This'll make my top 5 list for 2013 easily.






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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #247 on: May 23, 2013, 10:43:17 PM »
You know what, though?  In anything, it's always "your mileage may vary". :)

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #248 on: May 23, 2013, 10:47:30 PM »
That plus BGWtB is one of my all-time favorite records.

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #249 on: May 23, 2013, 10:49:18 PM »
You know what, though?  In anything, it's always "your mileage may vary". :)
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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #250 on: May 25, 2013, 04:56:10 AM »
Duvall's vocals on "Hung on a Hook" are just something else. So haunting. Definitely adding that to my list of highlights. Ditto for "Breath on a Window." Such an amazing ending to that song.

Also gotta give major props to "Choke." Definitely has a "Down in a Hole" vibe to it. Perfect album closer.

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #251 on: May 26, 2013, 10:28:07 PM »
PHANTOM LIMB :omg: :hefdaddy

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #252 on: May 27, 2013, 02:39:25 AM »
Album lyrics are all up in anyone's interested.
https://lyrics.wikia.com/Alice_In_Chains:The_Devil_Put_Dinosaurs_Here_%282013%29

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Re: Alice In Chains
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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #254 on: May 28, 2013, 01:22:51 AM »
Also "Hung on A Hook" :heart is one of their best since coming back IMO. I love Jerry's vocals too but IMO it's time the band let's Duvall show what he can do more often as the lead vocal (the guy has a really strong, killer voice).

Jerry has plenty he can focus on within the band... writing music, riffs, ripping solos and those amazing vocal harmonies the band is famous for. I know Duvall likely feels fine with his position in the band but the guy can really sing and I think the band would be better off with at least, more of a mix of the two leading the vocals. JMO.

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #255 on: May 28, 2013, 03:53:54 AM »
The more I listen to this album the harder it is to find fault with it. Unless Black Sabbath pull solid gold out their ass with 13 (pretty unlikely from what I've heard so far), TDPDH will most likely end being my AOTY.


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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #256 on: May 28, 2013, 04:46:26 AM »
I agree. It´s a fantastic album, in my book.
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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #258 on: May 28, 2013, 02:45:53 PM »
Great album  :metal

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #259 on: May 28, 2013, 07:28:57 PM »
Totally agreed.  IMO, it's eons better than BGWtB.

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #261 on: May 29, 2013, 09:16:33 AM »
Totally agreed.  IMO, it's eons better than BGWtB.

Just bought TDPDH. Considering BGWtB is one of my favorite albums of all time, yu're making me very excited to get into this new one.  ;D
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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #262 on: May 29, 2013, 12:20:30 PM »


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Totally agreed.  IMO, it's eons better than BGWtB.

Just bought TDPDH. Considering BGWtB is one of my favorite albums of all time, yu're making me very excited to get into this new one.  ;D

Sorry - I just don't think very highly of BGWtB.

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« Reply #263 on: May 29, 2013, 06:08:02 PM »
Yeah, having actually listened to it now, I think I'm in the complete opposite boat from you. The album's alright, but overall it sounds like a much inferior version of BGWtB. It's like they made more of the same, but a few of the songs are missing the great hooks, riffs and choruses that made the other great. I still enjoy 2/3 of the album though.

And the packaging is just really cool, with the red jewel case and such.
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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #264 on: May 29, 2013, 06:54:32 PM »
Yeah, having actually listened to it now, I think I'm in the complete opposite boat from you. The album's alright, but overall it sounds like a much inferior version of BGWtB. It's like they made more of the same, but a few of the songs are missing the great hooks, riffs and choruses that made the other great. I still enjoy 2/3 of the album though.

And the packaging is just really cool, with the red jewel case and such.



I really liked BGWtB and I can agree to some extent that TDPDH is by far more of a grower. I like both but feel like TDPDH will be one for me that I have to listen off and on to get into more. It had some songs that clicked with me right away (Stone, Phantom Limb, Lab Monkey, Hung On a Hook) but it didn't grab me instantly quite as strongly as BGWtB as an album. Just my initial impression.

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« Reply #265 on: May 29, 2013, 09:14:29 PM »
The single sounded like usual AiC. Which is good. Will check out the album, and from what I hear from people.
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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #266 on: May 29, 2013, 10:04:47 PM »
I'm liking the album so far, but man, I wish it wasn't so brickwalled. Makes it hard to listen to.

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #267 on: May 30, 2013, 12:26:06 PM »
Yeah, having actually listened to it now, I think I'm in the complete opposite boat from you. The album's alright, but overall it sounds like a much inferior version of BGWtB. It's like they made more of the same, but a few of the songs are missing the great hooks, riffs and choruses that made the other great. I still enjoy 2/3 of the album though.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. :)

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #268 on: May 30, 2013, 03:08:13 PM »
So for some reason I am now listening to Dirt for the first time. My reaction:  :omg: :metal :omg: :metal :omg: HOW HAVE I NOT HEARD THIS SOONER?
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« Reply #269 on: May 30, 2013, 03:34:59 PM »
If it makes you feel better, I also got into Alice in chains this spring. It took me years and many, many friends to make me realize this stuff is really good. I enjoyed Dirt the most, although I also love the bleakness and heaviness of their self titled album.

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #270 on: May 30, 2013, 03:35:23 PM »
Yeah, having actually listened to it now, I think I'm in the complete opposite boat from you. The album's alright, but overall it sounds like a much inferior version of BGWtB. It's like they made more of the same, but a few of the songs are missing the great hooks, riffs and choruses that made the other great. I still enjoy 2/3 of the album though.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. :)

 ;D It's all cool. At the very least, I still think the new one's a great release.
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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #271 on: May 31, 2013, 06:14:45 PM »
So for some reason I am now listening to Dirt for the first time. My reaction:  :omg: :metal :omg: :metal :omg: HOW HAVE I NOT HEARD THIS SOONER?

Seriously?  You've NEVER heard Dirt until yesterday?!  SCROPPIE, WHERE HAS YUO BEN??!?!11?!? :eek :biggrin:

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« Reply #272 on: May 31, 2013, 08:10:22 PM »
Dirt is fucking amazing. :metal

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #273 on: June 01, 2013, 10:01:30 PM »
Yeah, I know it is - but, words haven't been invented to describe how mindblowing the experience is.

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« Reply #274 on: June 01, 2013, 11:14:00 PM »
Second listen. Hung On A Hook and Choke are an awesome one-two punch as the album closers.  :metal
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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #275 on: June 02, 2013, 07:12:16 AM »
Dirt is amazing...I´ve performed ´Would´ live once....that was an experience as well....  :metal
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« Reply #276 on: June 03, 2013, 12:30:18 PM »
Dirt is amazing...I´ve performed ´Would´ live once....that was an experience as well....  :metal

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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #277 on: July 03, 2013, 07:25:40 AM »
So even I finally got around to buying this album. I've listened now three times and must say so far I'm not convinced.

Most of the songs sound kind of samey and just plod along. Where are the riffs that made for so many great songs? This sounds to me more like singer-/songwriter stuff played with distorted guitars than riff-oriented energetic rock music. And to use those vocal harmonies is nice and they are some kind of trademark sound but to use them in almost every song in every verse and every chorus and every fucking bridge? That totally kills any dynamic, at least for my ears.

So far only Phantom Limb sounds good because it has a great riff and sounds much more lively than the rest.

Hopefully this will grow on me, because it would be a shame if this would stay subpar, considering that the next album will mostly not come out for the next five to ten years, if at all.
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Re: Alice In Chains
« Reply #278 on: July 04, 2013, 01:08:15 PM »
Most of the songs sound kind of samey and just plod along. Where are the riffs that made for so many great songs? This sounds to me more like singer-/songwriter stuff played with distorted guitars than riff-oriented energetic rock music. And to use those vocal harmonies is nice and they are some kind of trademark sound but to use them in almost every song in every verse and every chorus and every fucking bridge? That totally kills any dynamic, at least for my ears.
That is my biggest complaint with their new material. Sure, it's a signature sound, but it's nice to actually hear one singer's voice once in a while, not just a wall of sound. And they certainly did it much less back in the day. Let Duvall actually sing some more on his own, I say.

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« Reply #279 on: July 07, 2013, 12:57:46 PM »
Most of the songs sound kind of samey and just plod along. Where are the riffs that made for so many great songs? This sounds to me more like singer-/songwriter stuff played with distorted guitars than riff-oriented energetic rock music. And to use those vocal harmonies is nice and they are some kind of trademark sound but to use them in almost every song in every verse and every chorus and every fucking bridge? That totally kills any dynamic, at least for my ears.
That is my biggest complaint with their new material. Sure, it's a signature sound, but it's nice to actually hear one singer's voice once in a while, not just a wall of sound. And they certainly did it much less back in the day. Let Duvall actually sing some more on his own, I say.
I agree with this. "Hung on a Hook" is one of my favorites from this album because of Duvall. Same with "Last Of My Kind" from BGWTB. He needs more chances to shine by himself and I hope Jerry gives it to him next time.

That said, this album is really growing on me. At first, I was disappointed. It was very samey, but repeated listens have shown that despite that, the songs are very good. Maybe not amazing, well, a few get pretty close actually. It's not the best and I don't think it's as good as Facelift or BGWTB, but I like it more than tripod. This is another solid entry in their discography. I do hope next time they try and mix things up more, hopefully with more Duvall-centric songs.

My rankings:
1. Lab Monkey
2. Phantom Limb
3. Stone
4. The Devil Put Dinosaurs Here
5. Hung On A Hook
6. Choke
7. Pretty Done
8. Breath On A Window
9. Voices
10. Hollow
11. Low Ceiling
12. Scalpel

Those first 6 are all pretty close, actually.