Author Topic: Alice In Chains (Read 51843 times)

TioJorge · « **Reply #210 on:** March 27, 2013, 08:07:43 PM »

Yeah I'm definitely a casual AIC fan; and I feel just about the same regarding Nirvana. That said, I've never, ever considered the two alike in any way. In fact, before I was poisoned by the labels of genres, which I now kind of hate the entire concept of, I thought of them as almost opposites. Nirvana had songs that could put me to in a kind of...drone state of just getting lost in the music, and then wake me up with some very angst-ridden choruses. AIC did the same, but almost exactly opposite in that they were mostly angst and hardcore and sludgy and then had moments of bliss and comfort.

I dunno, that's my own take on it; and I haven't heard all of the songs from either band by the bye, so this is a very casual fan's take on both. But from the songs I've heard (assume I've heard all of the popular ones along with some of their beginning material that is perhaps lesser known or less popular), this is my naive little opinion...just a bit of a cautionary before some avid fan of either band rapes my facehole to shut me up because I've labeled them wrongly or have described what they consider to be a poor description of the music... Another disclaimer: I'm drunk and I don't give a fuck about shit. That shit I took. I'm not even going to flush it cause I'm paying homage to Earth. So fuck, man. Just fuck.

I'm still just listening to Hollow. Stone was alright, I didn't much care for it to be honest though, I just really wanted to like it. Haven't heard Phantom Limb but the name sounds awesome especially cause METALGEARSOLIDFIVEOMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #211 on:** March 27, 2013, 09:48:39 PM »

Quote from: WildeSilas on March 27, 2013, 07:53:32 PM

They're a metal band trying to imitate King's X and have as much as said so repeatedly. AIC and Nirvana have as much in common as dolphins and airplanes.

The Jets and Dolphins are both AFC East teams?

adace · « **Reply #212 on:** March 27, 2013, 11:59:39 PM »

Stone and Phantom Limb are

This album is gonna rule hard.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #213 on:** March 28, 2013, 12:11:35 PM »

Quote from: WildeSilas on March 27, 2013, 07:53:32 PM

They're a metal band trying to imitate King's X and have as much as said so repeatedly. AIC and Nirvana have as much in common as dolphins and airplanes.

Um... HUH? I think I need a 10 buck bag of what you're smoking.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #214 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:54:52 PM »

Word. Not to pile on here or insinuate that they never said that, but I've never heard anyone mention this before and I've been a fan since '96. Link please?

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #215 on:** March 28, 2013, 10:25:33 PM »

I've been a fan since late 1992/early 1993 and I don't think that EVER came up on the old Jerry Cantrell board (if it did, I probably missed it).

pogoowner · « **Reply #216 on:** March 30, 2013, 04:42:11 PM »

I seem to recall King's X possibly being mentioned as an influence, but I've never heard anything as strong as "imitate."

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #217 on:** March 30, 2013, 09:34:30 PM »

Quote from: pogoowner on March 30, 2013, 04:42:11 PM

I seem to recall King's X possibly being mentioned as an influence, but I've never heard anything as strong as "imitate."

See... now THAT makes a little more sense.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #218 on:** March 31, 2013, 12:21:14 AM »

Interestingly enough, Dime said King's X influenced the clean tone arpeggio part for Cemetery Gates' verse.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #219 on:** March 31, 2013, 06:21:05 PM »

Never heard that one.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #220 on:** March 31, 2013, 08:23:39 PM »

It was in Guitar World several years ago.

This was the best I could do on short notice:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimebag_Darrell#Influences_and_guitar_skills

Quote from: wikipedia

Dimebag mentioned in an interview with Guitar World that the clean chord passages in the intro to Cemetery Gates were influenced by the clean chordal passages found in much of Ty Tabor's (King's X) playing.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #221 on:** April 05, 2013, 07:59:21 PM »

Aha. Must've missed that, then.

In other news... it's so hard to believe it's been 11 years.

Mindflux · « **Reply #222 on:** April 05, 2013, 08:09:47 PM »

Quote from: DebraKadabra on April 05, 2013, 07:59:21 PM

Aha. Must've missed that, then.

In other news... it's so hard to believe it's been 11 years.

19 years for Kurt today too. So crazy we lost them both on the same exact day, just 8 years apart.

R.I.P good sirs.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #223 on:** April 05, 2013, 08:10:29 PM »

Yeah... no kidding. RIP Kurt and Layne.

WebRaider · « **Reply #224 on:** April 07, 2013, 12:59:59 PM »

AIC - Twenty-Three "Documentary"

https://youtu.be/7ZjDJZQfThA

This is so awesome!

King Postwhore · « **Reply #225 on:** April 07, 2013, 03:39:26 PM »

Hard to be an influence when King's X's first album came out in 88 and AIC in 90. AIC had their distinct sound right out of the gate. I am a fan of both bands but I think the influence came from somewhere else.

Nel · « **Reply #226 on:** April 07, 2013, 04:47:29 PM »

Quote from: WebRaider on April 07, 2013, 12:59:59 PM

AIC - Twenty-Three "Documentary"

https://youtu.be/7ZjDJZQfThA

This is so awesome!

That was pretty funny. "I was on their forum ironically."

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #227 on:** April 08, 2013, 09:18:35 PM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on April 07, 2013, 03:39:26 PM

Hard to be an influence when King's X's first album came out in 88 and AIC in 90. AIC had their distinct sound right out of the gate. I am a fan of both bands but I think the influence came from somewhere else.

It was a hodgepodge of a lot of different styles/musical influences. Jerry said that a lot of the weird harmonies between him and Layne came from Jerry's love of Gregorian chords in his choir days, and Jerry was also a fan of a lot of different music - country, classic rock, etc.

As far as nailing everything down? Yeah, that hasn't happened since the band's salad days back in the 90s.

eric42434224 · « **Reply #228 on:** April 10, 2013, 01:07:39 PM »

I remember an interview with the band (I think it was at a waterpark on Headbangers Ball), and they were asked about a new album. I think it was Cantrelll's response, "We are waiting for the next Kings X album to see what they do".
I always took that as a joke yes, but also as a show of respect for Kings X.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #229 on:** April 10, 2013, 01:24:36 PM »

Jerry Cantrell in a Speedo

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #230 on:** April 10, 2013, 11:33:41 PM »

Oh hell yeah.

adace · « **Reply #231 on:** April 11, 2013, 01:41:29 AM »

"Stone" on Kimmel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SNZPr4Mvhkc

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #232 on:** April 11, 2013, 02:00:35 AM »

Is it just me, or did the capture sound really shitty?

adace · « **Reply #233 on:** April 11, 2013, 02:17:59 AM »

Quote from: DebraKadabra on April 11, 2013, 02:00:35 AM

Is it just me, or did the capture sound really shitty?

Yeah, I should have posted this one but I didn't see it right away. There's also some bonus performances in the link.
https://beta.abc.go.com/shows/jimmy-kimmel-live/video/PL5520981/_m_VD55296096

eric42434224 · « **Reply #234 on:** April 11, 2013, 09:24:44 AM »

They are just soo good. Still sound great live.
AIC are one of my all time favorite bands, and Dirt is one of my all time favorite albums.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #235 on:** April 11, 2013, 12:10:55 PM »

Quote from: adace on April 11, 2013, 02:17:59 AM

Quote from: DebraKadabra on April 11, 2013, 02:00:35 AM
Is it just me, or did the capture sound really shitty?
Yeah, I should have posted this one but I didn't see it right away. There's also some bonus performances in the link.
https://beta.abc.go.com/shows/jimmy-kimmel-live/video/PL5520981/_m_VD55296096

MUCH better quality, thanks! That said... I think I like Hollow more than Stone but... eh.

Random question - WTF happened to Jerry's HAIR?!

ETA: Vid for Hollow

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #236 on:** April 11, 2013, 06:12:59 PM »

Man, Jerry looks weird with short hair.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #237 on:** April 13, 2013, 04:17:16 AM »

Quote from: The King in Crimson on April 11, 2013, 06:12:59 PM

Man, Jerry looks weird with short hair.

You got that right.

pogoowner · « **Reply #238 on:** April 13, 2013, 07:59:33 AM »

It's easier to dye it when it's that short.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #239 on:** April 14, 2013, 12:30:26 AM »

adace · « **Reply #240 on:** May 21, 2013, 04:41:14 AM »

Samples are up on Itunes.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-devil-put-dinosaurs-here/id622941441

Edit: Pretty good chance this will be my AOTY.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #241 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:30:18 PM »

Ah... release day IS getting close.

adace · « **Reply #242 on:** May 23, 2013, 11:40:23 AM »

It's on the interwebz. Can't wait to listen.

adace · « **Reply #243 on:** May 23, 2013, 04:40:47 PM »

Just finished my first listen. It's amazing as I expected, but since there's a lot of long, relatively samey songs it does feel like more of a grower than the last one. I also hoped there would have been more of Duvall singing, but it doesn't detract a whole lot from the album and Cantrell is a great singer.

Highlights so far include Hollow, Stone, Phantom Limb, Pretty Done, Lab Monkey, and Voices.

I'll probably give it an overall score after a few more listens.

73109 · « **Reply #244 on:** May 23, 2013, 09:56:03 PM »

Hmm, I am going to listen to this tomorrow. Can't wait!!!!

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Author Topic: Alice In Chains (Read 51843 times)