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« Reply #665 on: June 07, 2017, 02:32:34 PM »
DM's posts on the subjects are must reads and I don't even like Savatage! :lol
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« Reply #666 on: June 07, 2017, 06:40:03 PM »
I don't think there is any doubt that DM knows more about Savatage than any actual band member knows about the band.

The band members probably secretly come in here as guests just to read shit they didn't know about themselves.

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« Reply #667 on: June 08, 2017, 05:40:01 AM »
I don't even like Savatage! :lol

I don't know how to process that.

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« Reply #668 on: June 15, 2017, 07:34:32 AM »
I'm working on putting together a Savatage guitar tablature book, and have 100 songs completely transcribed.  I've contacted the band and some of its members several times, but haven't gotten a response yet.  Update: I've since heard back from Jeff Plate redgarding this project.  I've started discussions on some of the Savatage facebook fan pages and gotten a lot of interest so far.  Let me know if any of you would be interested, and if there are particular songs you'd like to see in the book!  I can confidently say that these are very accurate transcriptions, I've spent a ton of time on them, way better than the tabs floating around on the internet.  Here's a sample of my work: https://youtu.be/1GCzBnens60

Here's a list of the songs I have done, per album:

Sirens: Sirens, Living For The Night
The Dungeons Are Calling: The Dungeons Are Calling, By The Grace Of The Witch, Visions
Power Of The Night: Power Of The Night, Unusual, Warriors, Washed Out, Hard For Love
Fight For The Rock: Hyde, Red Light Paradise
Hall Of The Mountain King (full album)
Gutter Ballet: Of Rage And War, Gutter Ballet, Temptation Revelation, When The Crowds Are Gone, Silk And Steel, Hounds, Summer's Rain
Streets: Jesus Saves, Tonight He Grins Again, Strange Reality, You're Alive, Sammy And Tex, Can You Hear Me Now, Ghost In The Ruins, Agony And Ecstasy, Somewhere In Time, Believe
Edge Of Thorns (full album)
Handful Of Rain (full album)
Ghost In The Ruins: Post Script
Dead Winter Dead (full album)
The Wake Of Magellan (full album)
Poets & Madmen (full album)
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« Reply #669 on: June 21, 2017, 06:47:09 PM »
That cover was on point bro.  There was no solo in the pdf version though?

I'd pay for some of these transcriptions I think.

He Carves His Stone bro, He Carves His Stone.

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« Reply #670 on: June 21, 2017, 08:31:41 PM »
That cover was on point bro.  There was no solo in the pdf version though?

I'd pay for some of these transcriptions I think.

He Carves His Stone bro, He Carves His Stone.
Thanks for the feedback!  You'll be happy to know that I started working on He Carves His Stone a couple days ago.  I have all of the rhythms done, just need to finish up the solos.

Sorry about the Drive PDF, I forgot to export the lead track from Guitar Pro.  Here's the link:
https://www.mediafire.com/?0y6sa1bdw7y32cz
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« Reply #671 on: June 22, 2017, 05:36:33 AM »
Good stuff man.

What are you expecting to get out of doing these transcriptions?

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« Reply #672 on: June 22, 2017, 06:46:52 AM »
Good stuff man.

What are you expecting to get out of doing these transcriptions?
I really just want to get them to as many fans as possible.  Having the band endorse them would obviously help reach the most people.  I've messaged and emailed Chris Caffery like 10 times since April, still no response, which is frustrating because he posts on facebook every day.  My dream scenario would be to sit down with Jon and be able to listen to the isolated master tracks.  Regardless, I'm very confident in their accuracy, and I can assure that the transcriptions will be released, whether in print, digital, etc.  I think this is important to preserve Criss' legacy.

Also, there was a Gutter Ballet book published by Cherry Lane in 1990.  Long since out of print, but I have a PDF of it.  So far, I'd say it's decent, but can definitely be improved.  I transcribed the title track last week and made some corrections and improvements, it's now more accurate to how Criss played it.

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« Reply #673 on: June 26, 2017, 10:42:04 PM »
Finally finished up Power Of The Night today, there are a lot of leads and fills so it took a while.  Also transcribed Can You Hear Me Now last week, which contains maybe my favorite Criss Oliva riff at 2:39.  I updated my original post of all the songs I've completed.

Hopefully Dark Master sees my post, I'd value his input/suggestions.

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« Reply #674 on: July 06, 2017, 09:02:45 AM »
Anyone want a full album guitar book for The Wake of Magellan?   :metal

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« Reply #675 on: July 06, 2017, 01:17:34 PM »
Anyone want a full album guitar book for The Wake of Magellan?   :metal

Oh yes!  I've actually been listening to The Wake of Magellan a lot recently, so I would be very interested in seeing that.  Actually, I've been thinking about doing a Savatage discography run for myself, so I could probably look over the tabs you have done so far, since the music will be fresh in my head.  It's really cool what you've done so far though, the world needs more Savatage tablature out there.   :tup

Incidentally, I noticed that TSO put out an announcement stating their intention to perform The Ghosts of Christmas Eve again for their winter tour this year.  I can understand them wanting to play it safe in the wake of Paul's passing, but I sincerely hope they take more risks with their live shows in the future (more non-christmas tours; more Savatage songs in the set; etc.)  There is a part of me that fears that without Paul's ambition and vision, Jon will just be content to take the safe road and rehash the Christmas shows.  Since 2010, TSO has shown signs of breaking out of their holiday shell (Beethoven's Last Night tours, European tours, Wacken, and overall more Savatage in the setlists) so I hope that trend continues into the future.

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« Reply #676 on: July 07, 2017, 02:34:20 PM »
I have two songs left on The Wake Of Magellan, I just finished adding all the piano parts to Paragons Of Innocence.  I guess my worst case scenario is that no one gets back to me before the TSO tour, and I can just go to a show and give them my transcriptions, lol.

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« Reply #677 on: July 12, 2017, 02:11:01 PM »
Just finished up the entire Wake of Magellan album!  I'm very happy with these transcriptions, there are several songs on this album that I haven't seen any tabs for, let alone accurate ones.

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« Reply #679 on: July 16, 2017, 06:38:37 AM »

Also, there was a Gutter Ballet book published by Cherry Lane in 1990.  Long since out of print, but I have a PDF of it. 

I have an original  :metal
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« Reply #680 on: July 18, 2017, 09:15:20 PM »

Also, there was a Gutter Ballet book published by Cherry Lane in 1990.  Long since out of print, but I have a PDF of it. 

I have an original  :metal
That's cool.  I plan on doing at least one more song from GB, that old book can definitely be improved upon.  I actually tracked down the guy who transcribed it back in 1990, to see if he could help get me in touch with the band/publishers.  Unfortunately, he never communicated with the band, all of his transcribing was done independently.

In other news, I've finished Follow Me (one of my favorites, took a long time to transcribe all of it though), All That I Bleed, and Hyde.

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« Reply #681 on: July 24, 2017, 01:33:50 PM »
Got these done in the past few days: Living For The Night, The Dungeons Are Calling, and By The Grace Of The Witch.  I'm going to focus on Sirens next, which I already have mostly done.  At this point, I've reached my personal goal of at least one song per album, though there are still several songs I plan on transcribing.

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« Reply #682 on: July 31, 2017, 11:56:04 AM »
I got these songs done this past week: Sirens, Hard For Love, When The Crowds Are Gone, Hounds, and Summer's Rain.

I decided to make Hard For Love available for free, please rate and comment!

https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/s/savatage/hard_for_love_guitar_pro.htm#c_5229065

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« Reply #683 on: August 01, 2017, 02:59:57 PM »
I'd pay for some of these transcriptions I think.

He Carves His Stone bro, He Carves His Stone.
Just finished this song today!  Definitely one of the more time consuming transcriptions of this entire project, Criss' playing was truly at its peak here.

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« Reply #685 on: August 19, 2017, 09:37:31 AM »
Here's a few more free uploads:

Doesn't Matter Anyway: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/s/savatage/doesnt_matter_anyway_guitar_pro.htm
I Am: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/s/savatage/i_am_guitar_pro.htm
Sarajevo: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/s/savatage/sarajevo_ver2_guitar_pro.htm
Overture: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/s/savatage/overture_guitar_pro.htm

I've also been transcribing some Jon Oliva's Pain, Doctor Butcher, and Circle II Circle.  I haven't done solos for most of these, I may add them later:

JOP
Pain: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/jon_olivas_pain/pain_guitar_pro.htm
All The Time: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/jon_olivas_pain/all_the_time_guitar_pro.htm
Through The Eyes Of The King: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/jon_olivas_pain/through_the_eyes_of_the_king_guitar_pro.htm
Maniacal Renderings: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/jon_olivas_pain/maniacal_renderings_guitar_pro.htm
Time To Die: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/jon_olivas_pain/time_to_die_guitar_pro.htm
Push It To The Limit: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/jon_olivas_pain/push_it_to_the_limit_guitar_pro.htm
Who's Playing God: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/jon_olivas_pain/whos_playing_god_guitar_pro.htm
Adding The Cost: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/jon_olivas_pain/adding_the_cost_guitar_pro.htm

Doctor Butcher
The Altar (intro): https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/d/doctor_butcher/the_altar_intro_guitar_pro.htm
Reach Out And Torment Someone: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/d/doctor_butcher/reach_out_and_torment_someone_guitar_pro.htm
Don't Talk To Me: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/d/doctor_butcher/dont_talk_to_me_guitar_pro.htm

CIIC
The Circle: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/c/circle_ii_circle/the_circle_guitar_pro.htm
Lies: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/c/circle_ii_circle/lies_guitar_pro.htm
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« Reply #686 on: August 22, 2017, 10:47:23 AM »
My playthrough of Strange Wings: https://youtu.be/e4V4RiGSLdc

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« Reply #687 on: August 28, 2017, 11:15:25 AM »
I just finished transcribing the entire Edge of Thorns album!  I got a response a few weeks ago from Jeff Plate, he's going to take a look at my transcriptions and get back to me.  Fingers crossed!

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« Reply #688 on: August 28, 2017, 11:16:08 AM »
I just finished transcribing the entire Edge of Thorns album!  I got a response a few weeks ago from Jeff Plate, he's going to take a look at my transcriptions and get back to me.  Fingers crossed!

Wow, that's great!
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« Reply #689 on: August 31, 2017, 11:12:25 AM »
I just finished transcribing the entire Edge of Thorns album!  I got a response a few weeks ago from Jeff Plate, he's going to take a look at my transcriptions and get back to me.  Fingers crossed!

Wow, that's great!
Thanks, I'm glad to see more and more fans interested in this project!  I just finished transcribing Believe yesterday, which brings my total to 65 songs.  If anyone's interested, I started a conversation on one of the Savatage fan pages on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SavatageWacken2015/permalink/1705450376150192/ Just join the group!

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« Reply #690 on: August 31, 2017, 07:25:41 PM »
I just finished transcribing the entire Edge of Thorns album!  I got a response a few weeks ago from Jeff Plate, he's going to take a look at my transcriptions and get back to me.  Fingers crossed!

Wow, that's pretty sweet mate.

You seem to spend a lot of time on all of these and sharing them out for free which is very kind, are you wanting to get something apporved from the band themselves before trying to release it?

Have you tried getting a job and working for a company that transcribes books like Hal Leonord etc. or approach them yourself to publish something of your own?  I'm not sure how it all works, but you have a lot of dedication and time to this without any return it seems.

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« Reply #691 on: August 31, 2017, 09:55:05 PM »
I just finished transcribing the entire Edge of Thorns album!  I got a response a few weeks ago from Jeff Plate, he's going to take a look at my transcriptions and get back to me.  Fingers crossed!

Wow, that's pretty sweet mate.

You seem to spend a lot of time on all of these and sharing them out for free which is very kind, are you wanting to get something approved from the band themselves before trying to release it?

Have you tried getting a job and working for a company that transcribes books like Hal Leonard etc. or approach them yourself to publish something of your own?  I'm not sure how it all works, but you have a lot of dedication and time to this without any return it seems.
Yes, my #1 goal is still to release it with approval from the band.  I was going to send stuff to Hal Leonard, Alfred, etc. but since I finally heard back from Jeff Plate, I've put that on hold.  If for some reason the band doesn't want to be directly involved, then I guess I'll go to publishers or release it myself.

I have made some songs available for free for two reasons:
1: the song is not guitar-centric, thus not essential to the book project (One Child, Anymore, etc.)
2: the song is a good representation of the quality of my work (Blackjack Guillotine, Hard For Love, Drive, Doesn't Matter Anyway)

I don't think I'll be releasing any more free songs, but I do plan on doing more video playthroughs.  Let me know if there are any specific songs/parts you'd like to see.  Thanks so much for your feedback!

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« Reply #692 on: September 01, 2017, 06:08:25 AM »
I just finished transcribing the entire Edge of Thorns album!  I got a response a few weeks ago from Jeff Plate, he's going to take a look at my transcriptions and get back to me.  Fingers crossed!

Wow, that's pretty sweet mate.

You seem to spend a lot of time on all of these and sharing them out for free which is very kind, are you wanting to get something approved from the band themselves before trying to release it?

Have you tried getting a job and working for a company that transcribes books like Hal Leonard etc. or approach them yourself to publish something of your own?  I'm not sure how it all works, but you have a lot of dedication and time to this without any return it seems.
Yes, my #1 goal is still to release it with approval from the band.  I was going to send stuff to Hal Leonard, Alfred, etc. but since I finally heard back from Jeff Plate, I've put that on hold.  If for some reason the band doesn't want to be directly involved, then I guess I'll go to publishers or release it myself.

I have made some songs available for free for two reasons:
1: the song is not guitar-centric, thus not essential to the book project (One Child, Anymore, etc.)
2: the song is a good representation of the quality of my work (Blackjack Guillotine, Hard For Love, Drive, Doesn't Matter Anyway)

I don't think I'll be releasing any more free songs, but I do plan on doing more video playthroughs.  Let me know if there are any specific songs/parts you'd like to see.  Thanks so much for your feedback!

That all makes sense mate, and I and all here I'm sure wish you well.  If I was playing as much as I was 10 years ago I'd be more into these but don't play that much these days.  What I've looked through from your tabs above and your videos are very accurate and vey well done mate.  I hope you get somewhere with it all.

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« Reply #693 on: September 12, 2017, 10:46:48 AM »
I finished the complete Hall Of The Mountain King album today!  I think this is a good stopping point (100 songs total).  Now I need to back and double check some things, and work on getting these transcriptions released.

I have been in touch with Jeff Plate, and he is interested in the project, though they are very busy with the upcoming TSO tour, so it may take a while. Here's what he said: "I think this is a great idea and would like to see something happen.  But, keep in mind the mountain of work we have ahead of us for this upcoming tour, and also dealing with the losses we've endured. We will get to this when we can. Let me see what I can do." He also said he would forward the transcriptions to Chris Caffery.

Here's a list of all the completed songs from each album:

Sirens: Sirens, Living For The Night
The Dungeons Are Calling: The Dungeons Are Calling, By The Grace Of The Witch, Visions
Power Of The Night: Power Of The Night, Unusual, Warriors, Washed Out, Hard For Love
Fight For The Rock: Hyde, Red Light Paradise
Hall Of The Mountain King (full album)
Gutter Ballet: Of Rage And War, Gutter Ballet, Temptation Revelation, When The Crowds Are Gone, Silk And Steel, Hounds, Summer's Rain
Streets: Jesus Saves, Tonight He Grins Again, Strange Reality, You're Alive, Sammy And Tex, Can You Hear Me Now, Ghost In The Ruins, Agony And Ecstasy, Somewhere In Time, Believe
Edge Of Thorns (full album)
Handful Of Rain (full album)
Ghost In The Ruins: Post Script
Dead Winter Dead (full album)
The Wake Of Magellan (full album)
Poets & Madmen (full album)

In the meantime, I plan on doing some more Savatage guitar videos, as well as working on ways to make this book special and unique.  Thanks everybody!
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« Reply #694 on: October 17, 2017, 08:26:00 AM »
24 years ago, Criss Oliva's life was tragically cut short.  This is my tribute to him.

https://youtu.be/StMraQk-YxA

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« Reply #695 on: October 17, 2017, 08:48:31 AM »
What a huge loss for the whole scene  :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #696 on: October 17, 2017, 04:44:13 PM »
One of the most tragic losses in metal history.

RIP Chris.  :heart

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« Reply #697 on: October 19, 2017, 09:12:21 AM »
Taken way too soon. RIP.

On a related note, I can't help but still be bummed that Savatage doesn't fully reunite and go out on tour. I get it -- financially it wouldn't work in the U.S., and of course, TSO is mostly Savatage anyway. But, all that said, it is still a disappointment. Looking at that list above of Savatage records, DAMN. There are so many good songs that just don't get played any longer.

I mean, festivals...the festival scene could be an option if Jon wanted to do it. You play the big European ones, and then get the headliner slot at ProgPower. Boom. That's all. you record it for release, etc. I mean, obviously, I'm just a fan and being selfish with what I'd like him to do. But all those great songs...just not being played. It still irks me.

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« Reply #698 on: October 19, 2017, 04:48:20 PM »
Nice Evan - can't get better than an Oliva solo on an EVH guitar  ;D

If I am still doing podcasts this time next year I will have to do a big 25 yr tribute.

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« Reply #699 on: October 19, 2017, 06:13:02 PM »
His playing was just pure emotion and heart on every single damn thing he did.  There was just nothing robotic about him and his playing and even the most trained and technically brilliant guitarist was still no match for the pure rawness, feel and natural ability this guy had.  The guitar was just a part of him and he connected to it like not many have before.