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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2009, 10:46:13 AM »
Just gonna throw this out there, Across The Rainbow Bridge is the best song on at least Disc 1 of Into The Electric Castle musically. No one ever talks about it. It's always about Isis and Osiris (great song) or Amazing Flight (meh).

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« Reply #71 on: October 09, 2009, 10:46:35 AM »
Except for a bunch of songs.

Such as? 01 has other good songs, but not in comparison. Sixth Extinction or Unnatural Selection would probably be 2nd.


Edit: That one segment at 8:50 of the Fifth Extinction is the best moment of the album. ("And as the smoke slowly rises...")

I think 01 is stronger on the whole, and has more strong songs and less filler, but it's a matter of opinion.

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« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2009, 10:49:47 AM »
Just gonna throw this out there, Across The Rainbow Bridge is the best song on at least Disc 1 of Into The Electric Castle musically.

I agree, and I know at least Nick does.  Time Beyond Time is really close for me, though.

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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2009, 11:08:35 AM »
2. He does NOT consider 01 his best work, even though it's his newest and that attitude is expected of musicians, an interesting bit of honesty there.

Did he mention what he considers his best work?

No, however he did go into why he doesn't think 01 is, or at least one of the reasons was because there were too many singers and it kept him from using each singer to the extent that he would have liked. This was a driving factor behind Guilt Machine being such a small project.

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« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2009, 12:20:15 PM »
I think the number of singers on THE was just right and everyone was used perfectly. Any less than that and I think it would not be as good. He definitely didn't use Gildenlol, Jonas, Englund, Floor Jansen and Ty as much as he could.

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« Reply #75 on: October 12, 2009, 02:51:58 PM »
I just randomly ended up listening to the trailer of Guilt Machine. Wow, zero enjoyment, seriously.

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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #76 on: October 25, 2009, 10:16:13 PM »
The song Arjen never wrote:
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2009, 10:44:23 PM »
Relistened to Human Equation and 01 today, always so good. The minimal weak spots are always covered and flow so well....

On that note, would there be any interest in an Ayreon survivor?
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« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2009, 07:59:46 AM »
Relistened to Human Equation and 01 today, always so good. The minimal weak spots are always covered and flow so well....

On that note, would there be any interest in an Ayreon survivor?

I'd certainly be interested.

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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #79 on: November 06, 2009, 11:46:08 AM »
ALL THE INTEREST I NEED!

Final Experiment's up. I'll decide how long to leave it up based on the votes.
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #80 on: December 02, 2009, 01:59:51 PM »
Thread revival.

Does anyone know in what order the Ayreon plot goes in? It doesn't seem very clear to me.
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« Reply #81 on: December 03, 2009, 03:02:16 PM »
There is a basic timeline included in the Ayreon 3CD/1DVD set, appropriately called Timeline, but hell if I am going to try and recreate it here :)

I have been listening to this Ayreon set more lately and I still donít know what to make of it. Admittedly it is a lot to take in and a compilation might not be the best way to do it. Iím not a huge lyrical-analyst, so the oft-discussed cheesiness of the lyrics/themes donít bother me. I donít even have any remote idea what the hell is going in the Ayreon saga. But I donít care.

There seems to be lots of good music there, but nothing that really grabs me. It makes for pleasant listening at work, but a few songs will go by and I will think back and not remember anything about what I just heard. Normally after this many listens Iíve made some sort of decision on how I feel about the music, good or bad.    
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #82 on: December 03, 2009, 10:58:09 PM »
Thread revival.

Does anyone know in what order the Ayreon plot goes in? It doesn't seem very clear to me.

I guess I could try to explain it tomorrow if it's the story you want. It will take a while, though  :lol

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« Reply #83 on: December 04, 2009, 10:52:45 AM »
There seems to be lots of good music there, but nothing that really grabs me. It makes for pleasant listening at work, but a few songs will go by and I will think back and not remember anything about what I just heard. Normally after this many listens Iíve made some sort of decision on how I feel about the music, good or bad.    

I feel this of all pre THE albums. I was just listening to the electric castle and *nothing* stood out to me.

But THE and 01011001 are immediate 'wow'ers to me.

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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #84 on: December 04, 2009, 02:22:36 PM »
Thread revival.

Does anyone know in what order the Ayreon plot goes in? It doesn't seem very clear to me.

I guess I could try to explain it tomorrow if it's the story you want. It will take a while, though  :lol
I know the story, I was just wondering which order the albums go in. I was assuming that it was chronological, but I also think that the Universal Migrator albums might take place after 01.
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #85 on: December 04, 2009, 03:21:10 PM »
The Final Experiment takes place in medieval King Arthurian times.
Actual Fantasy isn't related to the plot.
Electric Castle takes place at an undisclosed time after the birth of humanity but before 2084.
Universal Migrator takes place shortly after the near extinction of mankind in 2084 (ie: in 2085).
The Human Equation takes place sometime in modern times.
01011001 takes place in a range of times from before the birth of humanity and ends in 2085.

Also, The Electric Castle's survivor will begin near the start of next week, get those listens in.

I'm partial to THE and 01 over the rest of Ayreon's stuff, personally, but I know alot of people love Electric Castle.

EDIT: Migrator technically takes place after 01 ends as 01 ends with the Forevers discussing the colonist/futureman (the last man alive), and his future fate with the Dream Sequencer.
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #86 on: December 04, 2009, 03:24:51 PM »
Thread revival.

Does anyone know in what order the Ayreon plot goes in? It doesn't seem very clear to me.

I guess I could try to explain it tomorrow if it's the story you want. It will take a while, though  :lol
I know the story, I was just wondering which order the albums go in. I was assuming that it was chronological, but I also think that the Universal Migrator albums might take place after 01.

01 is sort of how everything comes full-circle. Chronologically, it's after it, yet all over the place.

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« Reply #87 on: December 04, 2009, 09:28:14 PM »
I have had  the human equation ( cam what a masterpiece ) for a long time mow and still play it all the time is it me or am i the only one who thinks this is the only great album out of them all or ahould i relisten to one of the others again ? I want to and keep trying to latch on to another album but i nothing has clicked yet.

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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #88 on: December 05, 2009, 02:43:49 AM »
01 is up there with it.
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #89 on: December 05, 2009, 08:07:54 AM »
01 is almost as amazing as THE. It's a little more metallic, with some vocalists that aren't OMG AMAZING but get the job done. I like Universal Migrator, but disc 1 is better than disc 2. Some great songs on that one. Into the Electric Castle has some real gems, (Across the Rainbow Bridge, Cosmic Fusion) but it has some filler too. The Final Experiment is pretty good too. Eyes of Time is one of my favorite Ayreon songs.
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #90 on: January 23, 2010, 03:58:26 PM »
*Performs necromancy*

Anyone who's been waiting around for it, The Human Equation survivor's up.
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« Reply #91 on: January 23, 2010, 04:07:14 PM »
I've decided to check this project out. The Human Equation is first on my list.

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« Reply #92 on: January 23, 2010, 07:16:37 PM »
Dunno why it took me so long to check out star one, given that I LOVE the human equation, into the electric castle, 01011010 (or whatever it is called) and im a big fan of russell allen!

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« Reply #93 on: January 24, 2010, 12:46:03 PM »

The Human Equation takes place sometime in modern times.

Don't you think the dream sequencer part is actually a Forever, which is why it says
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #94 on: January 24, 2010, 12:48:41 PM »
Yeah, the Human Equation *SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS* is just a machine induced dream, so technically it has no time frame, except for the end part where we find it all took place in an experiment.

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« Reply #95 on: January 24, 2010, 01:35:44 PM »
I think it was a Forever saying "Emotions, I remember". The Forevers aren't a part of the Dream Sequencer though. They just built it if I recall correctly.
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« Reply #96 on: January 24, 2010, 01:39:39 PM »
I think it was a Forever saying "Emotions, I remember". The Forevers aren't a part of the Dream Sequencer though. They just built it if I recall correctly.

Right, but it also said "Dream Sequencer offline." which means that Forever used the Dream Sequencer to experience the entire thing. It's also the same Forever from Electric Castle.
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« Reply #97 on: January 24, 2010, 01:42:16 PM »
Indeed. I really love the whole Ayreon plot. I find it extremely fascinating.
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #98 on: January 24, 2010, 01:54:09 PM »
01 is like Pain of Salvation's "BE"'s sci-fi brother minus the random bad talking tracks (*glares at Connect the Dots and Web of Lies*). Well maybe not.
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« Reply #99 on: January 24, 2010, 01:54:42 PM »
Connect the Dots and Web of Lies are awesome.
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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #100 on: April 01, 2010, 08:45:15 PM »
I now perform more necromancy on this thread to remind people that we're on the Top 5 of the finals of the survivor over in the polls area.
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« Reply #101 on: April 01, 2010, 08:49:15 PM »
And Trauma's already out so it's totally fucked.  :tdwn
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« Reply #102 on: April 01, 2010, 09:28:44 PM »
Top 3:
2084
Sixth Extinction
Confrontation

Make it happen.
Also to whoever says the Guilt Machine album is meh: Yeah a lot of it is. But Season of Denial and Perfection? alone are probably worth the money by themselves.

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Re: Ayreon / Other Arjen Lucassen Projects Thread
« Reply #103 on: April 02, 2010, 11:57:44 AM »
Personally I like Twisted Coil the best, the second half of the song is quite good. The singer sounds way too much like Matt Bellamy of Muse at times.
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« Reply #104 on: May 13, 2010, 02:16:39 AM »
Listening to 01011001, Anneke van Giersbergen's voice makes me want to unleash a state of anarchy in her anneke.