Author Topic: Ayreon/Arjen Lucassen Thread (Star Three on the way) (Read 380927 times)

jingle.boy · « **Reply #350 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:30:06 AM »

From his FB feed ....

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It’s been quiet in the Ayreon camp for the past couple of months, but Arjen Lucassen has broken his silence to reveal that the title of the eagerly anticipated forthcoming new album will be ‘The Theory Of Everything’, and that it will be a double album! Aiming for a tentative release at the end of this year!

KevShmev · « **Reply #351 on:** March 28, 2013, 08:00:17 AM »

Wait, he doesn't use the same lyrics on every album? Oh yeah, that's melodies and ideas...

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #352 on:** March 28, 2013, 09:02:53 AM »

I really hope he decides to showcase only 9 or 10 singers again, instead of doing what he did with 01011001. I think Electric Castle had it best; you really couldn't listen to the full album without getting a really good feel for each vocalist and character. Not so for 01011001, which most characters just had a few lines or a chorus. Even THE kinda suffer from too many vocalists syndrom. Outside of the main characters and a very really distinct voices, a couple of those "emotions" just blend right together.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #353 on:** March 28, 2013, 09:12:03 AM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on March 28, 2013, 09:02:53 AM

I really hope he decides to showcase only 9 or 10 singers again, instead of doing what he did with 01011001. I think Electric Castle had it best; you really couldn't listen to the full album without getting a really good feel for each vocalist and character. Not so for 01011001, which most characters just had a few lines or a chorus. Even THE kinda suffer from too many vocalists syndrom. Outside of the main characters and a very really distinct voices, a couple of those "emotions" just blend right together.

Although, with THE, there were about 8 or so core characters (Me, Wife, Love, Pride, Reason, Best Friend, Passion, Agony). Some of the others (Rage, Father) only showed up for a song or even a couple of lines.

Crow · « **Reply #354 on:** March 28, 2013, 11:30:51 AM »

So stoked
Want this now

Also re: different singers, 01011001's concept didn't really focus much on any characters at all so I never feel I need to distinguish them. That could be the point for all I know. I'm much happier seeing a lot of guest artists than just 2 or 3 though.

Cool Chris · « **Reply #355 on:** March 28, 2013, 11:59:02 AM »

A name is announced in March for an album expected to be out at the end of the year?

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #356 on:** March 28, 2013, 12:16:39 PM »

Quote from: Cool Chris on March 28, 2013, 11:59:02 AM

A name is announced in March for an album expected to be out at the end of the year?

Well, a quick glance at DT side confirms that fans of these types of extremely popular progressive metal projects want any morsels they can get, asap.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #357 on:** March 28, 2013, 12:24:43 PM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on March 28, 2013, 12:16:39 PM

Quote from: Cool Chris on March 28, 2013, 11:59:02 AM
A name is announced in March for an album expected to be out at the end of the year?
Well, a quick glance at DT side confirms that fans of these types of extremely popular progressive metal projects want any morsels they can get, asap.

MrBoom_shack-a-lack · « **Reply #358 on:** April 02, 2013, 03:34:00 AM »

Just some updates:

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Lucassen says: “I’ve finished recording demos of the music, I’m now about half-way finished with the lyrics. It’s going to be a double album, so there is a lot to write.

“It’s extra challenging as well, because lyrically I’ve left the old Ayreon universe behind, and I have to create a new one from scratch. I’m really excited about the line-up and how everything is progressing so far.”

SomeoneLikeHim · « **Reply #359 on:** April 02, 2013, 04:14:13 AM »

Interesting with a brand new universe, the double album was kind of expected I guess

MrBoom_shack-a-lack · « **Reply #360 on:** April 02, 2013, 05:36:23 AM »

Yea i'm really looking forward to what he comes up with. "The Theory Of Everything" is a pretty bold and broad concept so it will be interesting to see how he will tackle that.

BlackInk · « **Reply #361 on:** April 02, 2013, 07:42:40 AM »

Are there two Ayreon threads?

MrBoom_shack-a-lack · « **Reply #362 on:** April 02, 2013, 07:52:16 AM »

I don't now, this has been here since 2009 atleast.

BlackInk · « **Reply #363 on:** April 02, 2013, 08:18:24 AM »

There was just a lengthy discussion about the name of the new album somewhere and it was well before october 2012, which is when the last post before this discussing was posted.

You can call me Sherlock Holmes

MrBoom_shack-a-lack · « **Reply #364 on:** April 02, 2013, 08:54:05 AM »

Well we have this new one:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=36364.0

and this:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=743.0

and that's about it but i would call this thread the official one.

abydos · « **Reply #365 on:** April 02, 2013, 11:32:39 AM »

Theory of OMGKANTWAIT/Awesome.

BlackInk · « **Reply #366 on:** April 02, 2013, 01:20:21 PM »

Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 02, 2013, 08:54:05 AM

and that's about it but i would call this thread the official one.

Agreed

Syzzle · « **Reply #367 on:** April 05, 2013, 01:05:09 AM »

I've just listened to The Human Equation 4 times on my 5th now. This has to be the greatest album I've heard in the past decade. I'm so disappointed that I've been missing out all these years.

MrBoom_shack-a-lack · « **Reply #368 on:** April 05, 2013, 02:14:30 AM »

Quote from: Syzzle on April 05, 2013, 01:05:09 AM

I've just listened to The Human Equation 4 times on my 5th now. This has to be the greatest album I've heard in the past decade. I'm so disappointed that I've been missing out all these years.

Yea it's an awesome album and probably my favourite.

BlackInk · « **Reply #369 on:** April 05, 2013, 02:21:56 AM »

I'd probably say that I'm a fan 87% because of 01 and 13% because of The Human Equation. I like none of his old stuff because it's way to sci-fi for me. Human equation has really interesting lyrical concept but not much more. 01 is my favorite and actually has a few songs I frequently listen to.

robwebster · « **Reply #370 on:** April 05, 2013, 07:33:52 AM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on March 28, 2013, 09:02:53 AM

I really hope he decides to showcase only 9 or 10 singers again, instead of doing what he did with 01011001. I think Electric Castle had it best; you really couldn't listen to the full album without getting a really good feel for each vocalist and character. Not so for 01011001, which most characters just had a few lines or a chorus. Even THE kinda suffer from too many vocalists syndrom. Outside of the main characters and a very really distinct voices, a couple of those "emotions" just blend right together.

I think the problem is that in 01, the vocalists didn't really have characters. We were told they were different characters, and they had little symbols in the booklet, but you wouldn't have guessed.

Contrast with ItEC and THE, where the characters are writ large. The highlander sounds like a highlander. The barbarian is big, bolshy, thunderous. The astronaut is cool, smart, detached. Likewise, Irene Jansen's voice screams with passion. Reason is theatrical, confident, a leader. Fear is dolorous, sad, a drone that builds to a scream. Arjen did that brilliantly on ItEC and THE, and not at all on 01011001. I think Hansi's character was basically a scientist? I think I read that somewhere. Makes sense, with River of Time. Great vocalist, one of my favourites, singing some great melodies, but he becomes one of many.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #371 on:** April 05, 2013, 07:39:59 PM »

01 did have characters, they showed their feelings since t he giant machines blocked out their sun till the end. Anneke is loving hence the heart symbol...things like that give the forevers their identity...its to distinct themselves as another race that used symbols as their name.

Zook · « **Reply #372 on:** April 06, 2013, 06:52:56 PM »

01011001 is Ayreon's best album.

Bolsters · « **Reply #373 on:** April 06, 2013, 09:47:44 PM »

I still haven't warmed up to 01011001. I should listen to it again to see if it's grown on me yet.

My favourite is probably Into The Electric Castle. Especially that first disc.

Pols Voice · « **Reply #374 on:** April 07, 2013, 12:02:21 AM »

Into the Electric Castle rules. It has a really good cast of singers. And some sick instrumental sections, especially Amazing Flight's.

SomeoneLikeHim · « **Reply #375 on:** April 07, 2013, 03:48:54 AM »

Granted, I've only heard ITTEC, THE and 01 but the electric castle is easily my favorite, even if I love THE to death as well.

Silver Tears · « **Reply #376 on:** April 07, 2013, 03:57:57 AM »

Quote from: Zook on April 06, 2013, 06:52:56 PM

01011001 is Ayreon's best album.

Correct! Human Equation is close for me too though

jingle.boy · « **Reply #377 on:** April 07, 2013, 04:46:32 AM »

Quote from: Silver Tears on April 07, 2013, 03:57:57 AM

Quote from: Zook on April 06, 2013, 06:52:56 PM
01011001 is Ayreon's best album.

Correct! Human Equation is close for me too though

Both of you... take it to the controversial opinions thread!

Musically, it's fantastic; but lyrically there are too many cringe-worthy moments. I say it's #4 or 5.

The Letter M · « **Reply #378 on:** April 07, 2013, 07:58:29 AM »

The Human Equation
Into The Electric Castle
The Universal Migrator (Parts 1 and 2)
01011001
The Final Experiment
Actual Fantasy

And if I could throw in Lost In The New Real (since it's in the same Universe as the Ayreon albums), I'd put it just above 01011001.

-Marc.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #379 on:** April 07, 2013, 08:03:18 AM »

Quote from: The Letter M on April 07, 2013, 07:58:29 AM

The Human Equation
Into The Electric Castle
The Universal Migrator (Parts 1 and 2)
10101001
The Final Experiment
Actual Fantasy

-Marc.

I'm right there with ya Marc. Although, I'd probably wedge 1010 in between UM part 2 and UM part 1

robwebster · « **Reply #380 on:** April 07, 2013, 09:11:35 AM »

Quote from: Ben_Jamin on April 05, 2013, 07:39:59 PM

01 did have characters, they showed their feelings since t he giant machines blocked out their sun till the end. Anneke is loving hence the heart symbol...things like that give the forevers their identity...its to distinct themselves as another race that used symbols as their name.

I didn't say they weren't written with characters - I even acknowledged that I'd heard Hansi was the sciencey one. I'm saying I don't think they're conveyed successfully - they end up a little indistinct. Anneke's meant to be distinctly loving, but this is genuinely the first I've heard of it. Not sold on the execution.

BlackInk · « **Reply #381 on:** April 07, 2013, 10:07:31 AM »

Are you guys just hitting the "0" and "1" buttons randomly and posting whatever it becomes?

abydos · « **Reply #382 on:** April 07, 2013, 10:36:24 AM »

That's what I do.

Nick · « **Reply #383 on:** April 07, 2013, 08:50:12 PM »

Even Arjen himself has basically said he used too many vocalists on 01 and ended up coming up short with each of them individually. I do really enjoy 01, but it has nothing on the glory of THE or ItEC.

Zook · « **Reply #384 on:** April 08, 2013, 09:58:04 AM »

The Human Equation is meh. Extremely overrated.

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Author Topic: Ayreon/Arjen Lucassen Thread (Star Three on the way) (Read 380927 times)