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Offline Zydar

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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2010, 08:06:02 AM »
Kamelot? It's only a model.

But seriously, I should check this band out.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2010, 08:31:14 AM »
Quote from: BirchBoy on January 25, 2010, 06:46:53 PM
I'm sorry if this offends anyone hear, but I'm about halfway through Ghost Opera (on "Mourning Star"), and I'm not impressed by it. I think it's bland power metal, right next to Stratovarius' Elements, Pt. 1. It might take a few listens to get comfortable with me, but the only slightly enjoyable song was "Ghost Opera." Bands like Iced Earth and Symphony X didn't come off like this, and DragonForce kinda did, so maybe it's just that I don't like some flavors of power metal.

To be fair, Ghost Opera took a loooooooooooooooong time to grow on me.  It's a lot less catchy and hooky then their previous releases, but it has a very unique and interesting sound that, once you get into it, is amazing.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2010, 11:22:04 AM »
Ghost Opera is terrible. Karma, Epica and The Black Halo are the only Kamelot albums I can still listen to nowadays.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2010, 02:17:09 PM »
Kamelot seem to be the only power metal band who don't do the exact same drumbeat for all their songs. coughsonataarticaough.

Quote from: Arcaeus on January 26, 2010, 11:22:04 AM
Ghost Opera is terrible. Karma, Epica and The Black Halo are the only Kamelot albums I can still listen to nowadays.

I always thought pre-Karma Kamelot was crap anyway.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2010, 02:34:42 PM »
What? 4th Legacy is great, definitely better than Ghost Opera.

But yeah, the first three albums are very skippable.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2010, 03:01:54 PM »
I can't believe the hate for Ghost Opera.  It's far from typical power metal, but that's one of the reasons I really like it.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2010, 04:41:17 PM »
I went to Best Buy today to buy Kamelot's live album and Opeth's live albums, but alas, they were sold out (And I always see them there too)

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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2010, 07:18:05 PM »
Ghost Opera terrible? I wouldn't go that far. It's about as good as Epica I'd say. A slight step down from the sequential order from Black Halo, but still up to par. I mean, the title track is a Kamelot classic. By far one of the best tunes in the cannon. I also like Rule the World. Great opener.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2010, 07:19:09 PM »
"Ghost Opera" is a very good song. Been in my head all day. Honestly, it's the only one that I liked.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2010, 07:43:10 PM »
Quote from: MykeHavoc on January 26, 2010, 07:18:05 PM
Ghost Opera terrible? I wouldn't go that far. It's about as good as Epica I'd say. A slight step down from the sequential order from Black Halo, but still up to par. I mean, the title track is a Kamelot classic. By far one of the best tunes in the cannon. I also like Rule the World. Great opener.

Yes, but after the song after Ghost Opera it's all just chuggy chuggy mid paced rock with NO inspiration. Few cool melodies/riffs here and there, but no real good songs.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2010, 07:50:36 PM »
Quote from: Adami on January 26, 2010, 07:43:10 PM
Quote from: MykeHavoc on January 26, 2010, 07:18:05 PM
Ghost Opera terrible? I wouldn't go that far. It's about as good as Epica I'd say. A slight step down from the sequential order from Black Halo, but still up to par. I mean, the title track is a Kamelot classic. By far one of the best tunes in the cannon. I also like Rule the World. Great opener.

Yes, but after the song after Ghost Opera it's all just chuggy chuggy mid paced rock with NO inspiration. Few cool melodies/riffs here and there, but no real good songs.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2010, 08:13:38 PM »
Quote from: BirchBoy on January 26, 2010, 07:50:36 PM
Quote from: Adami on January 26, 2010, 07:43:10 PM
Quote from: MykeHavoc on January 26, 2010, 07:18:05 PM
Ghost Opera terrible? I wouldn't go that far. It's about as good as Epica I'd say. A slight step down from the sequential order from Black Halo, but still up to par. I mean, the title track is a Kamelot classic. By far one of the best tunes in the cannon. I also like Rule the World. Great opener.

Yes, but after the song after Ghost Opera it's all just chuggy chuggy mid paced rock with NO inspiration. Few cool melodies/riffs here and there, but no real good songs.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2010, 12:31:40 AM »
I don't know, a lot of the vocal melodies are still strong to me, although they may seem like second rate b-sides in comparison to the genius of The Black Halo. I guess they just inadvertently set the bar too high with that album. I mean, it's perfect. It's my favorite album of the entire decade. That's hard to follow up, but I think they did it as best as they could. I'm looking forward to the new one though. I'm betting the quality will be a step up. That seems to be the pattern. Great album, followed by a good album, and back again.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2010, 10:30:21 AM »
Quote from: Adami on January 26, 2010, 07:43:10 PM
Yes, but after the song after Ghost Opera it's all just chuggy chuggy mid paced rock with NO inspiration. Few cool melodies/riffs here and there, but no real good songs.

Love You To Death isn't chuggy chuggy mid paced rock. Silence Of The Darkness is nice too.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #84 on: March 26, 2010, 01:00:54 PM »
Kamelot's first show of the tour was last night.  Supposedly this was the setlist:

  
         1. Ghost Opera
         2. Eden Echo
         3. Pandemonium
         4. Karma
         5. Center Of The Universe
         6. Wander
         7. Instrumental jam
         8. The Pendulous Fall
         9. Lights
        10. Keyboard Solo
        11. The Haunting
        12. Hunters Season
        13. Human Stain
        14. Drum Solo
        15. Forever
    
        16. The Black Halo
        17. Season's End
        18. Rule the World
      
        19. March of Mephisto

Lots of Ghost Opera  :metal

Also live debut of Season's End and the three new tracks.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #85 on: March 26, 2010, 01:12:30 PM »
I assume Pandemonium, Hunters Season and The Pendulous Fall are all new songs?
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #86 on: March 26, 2010, 01:20:14 PM »
The Pendulous Fall's a bonus track from Ghost Opera.  I believe "Lights" is the other new one.

Keep in mind I don't know for sure if the track titles or setlist is correct.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #87 on: March 26, 2010, 02:35:10 PM »
I think "Lights" might refer to When The Lights Are Down.

I wish I could get into Ghost Opera more, but damn is it boring..
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #88 on: March 26, 2010, 03:16:09 PM »
Just listen to Love You To Death. Seriously, it's probably my 2nd favourite Kamelot song (Memento Mori #1 obviously)
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« Reply #89 on: March 26, 2010, 03:42:20 PM »
Quote from: Zook on March 26, 2010, 02:35:10 PM
I think "Lights" might refer to When The Lights Are Down.


Maybe.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #90 on: March 26, 2010, 03:59:19 PM »
Quote from: faemir on March 26, 2010, 03:16:09 PM
Just listen to Love You To Death. Seriously, it's probably my 2nd favourite Kamelot song (Memento Mori #1 obviously)

The solo is sick.  The lyrics are cheesy as hell, but it is a very good song.
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #91 on: March 26, 2010, 06:21:22 PM »
I just came back from seeing them live again. I almost forgot how awesome they are live. But that is probably also due to the crowd. Tickets to the venue were sold out months ago whilst non of the other venue's are sold out. This venue is a sort of meeting place for the die hard Kamelot fans on each tour.

I heard 2 new songs. One was called Hunting Season and I forgot the name of the other one. They were quite cool. The new tour is called Pandemonium over Europe, so Pandemonium can be probably be the album name or a song name (last tour was called the rule the world tour).

They also said that there are plans to record another DVD, to be filmed in the Netherlands (for above reason; crowd is just amazing).
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #92 on: March 26, 2010, 06:43:25 PM »
damn it D: I reeeeally want to see them live but none of my friends like them enough. It's crazy, one of my friends is into power metal more than me but he doesn't like kamelot. At all.

Also, what is with this avatar Voxyn?
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« Reply #93 on: March 26, 2010, 06:53:47 PM »
Any other comments on the setlist?
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #94 on: March 26, 2010, 07:24:20 PM »
Quote from: faemir on March 26, 2010, 06:43:25 PM
damn it D: I reeeeally want to see them live but none of my friends like them enough. It's crazy, one of my friends is into power metal more than me but he doesn't like kamelot. At all.

Also, what is with this avatar Voxyn?
No idea. All the cool kids were using this avatar.

Quote from: GuineaPig on March 26, 2010, 06:53:47 PM
Any other comments on the setlist?
I think it was almost the same as above. Forever took a bit longer though, because the crowd would not shut up - at all. We kept chanting the main melody thingie for about 5 minutes till Khan said it was enough and that we should continue on :p. He had a huge grin on his face though, and told us that things like this are the reason that they love the Dutch crowd so much.
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« Reply #95 on: March 27, 2010, 08:08:53 AM »
I'm pumped that they're playing TBH again  :metal :metal :metal

Tilburg set for you TheVoxyn:

01 Ghost Opera
02 EdenEcho
03 The Great Pandemonium
04 The Human Stain
05 Center of the Universe
06 Wander
07 Instrumental jam
08 The Pendulous Fall
09 When the Lights are Down
10 Keyboard Solo
11 The Haunting With Elize from Amaranthe for the female vocal
12 Hunters Season
13 Rule the World
14 Drum Solo
15 Forever

Encore:
16 Interlude II: Un Assassinio Molto Silenzioso
17 The Black Halo
18 Season's End (with Charlotte Wessels from Delain)
19 Karma

Encore 2:
20 March of Mephisto
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« Reply #96 on: March 27, 2010, 09:21:46 AM »
Thanks.

It was an amazing concert, will definitely be there in Tilburg next tour.
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« Reply #98 on: March 27, 2010, 12:11:02 PM »
cant wait to see them in nyc in september.
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Re: Kamelot
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« Reply #100 on: March 27, 2010, 07:42:46 PM »
Amsterdam setlist

01 Ghost Opera
02 Eden Echo
03 The Great Pandemonium
04 Moonlight
05 Centre of the Universe
06 Sailorman’s Hymn
07 Instrumental jam
08 The Pendulous Fall
09 When the Lights are Down
10 Keyboard Solo
11 The Haunting With Elize from Amaranthe for the female vocal
12 Hunters Season
13 Rule the World
14 Drum Solo
15 Forever
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16 Memento Mori
17 Season's End
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18 March of Mephisto

Moonlight, A Sailorman's Hymn, and Memento Mori?  :metal
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Re: Kamelot
« Reply #101 on: March 27, 2010, 07:48:37 PM »
Quote from: GuineaPig on March 27, 2010, 07:42:46 PM
Amsterdam setlist

01 Ghost Opera
02 Eden Echo
03 The Great Pandemonium
04 Moonlight
05 Centre of the Universe
06 Sailorman’s Hymn
07 Instrumental jam
08 The Pendulous Fall
09 When the Lights are Down
10 Keyboard Solo
11 The Haunting With Elize from Amaranthe for the female vocal
12 Hunters Season
13 Rule the World
14 Drum Solo
15 Forever
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16 Memento Mori
17 Season's End
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18 March of Mephisto

Moonlight, A Sailorman's Hymn, and Memento Mori?  :metal

Well frack....

Was it the original or rock version of Sailormans Hymn?
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« Reply #102 on: March 27, 2010, 07:57:18 PM »
Dunno.  I don't know which version was played in '05 either, but I would suspect it was the rock one.
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« Reply #104 on: March 29, 2010, 09:59:50 PM »
Quote from: Adami on March 27, 2010, 07:48:37 PM
Quote from: GuineaPig on March 27, 2010, 07:42:46 PM
Amsterdam setlist

01 Ghost Opera
02 Eden Echo
03 The Great Pandemonium
04 Moonlight
05 Centre of the Universe
06 Sailorman’s Hymn
07 Instrumental jam
08 The Pendulous Fall
09 When the Lights are Down
10 Keyboard Solo
11 The Haunting With Elize from Amaranthe for the female vocal
12 Hunters Season
13 Rule the World
14 Drum Solo
15 Forever
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16 Memento Mori
17 Season's End
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18 March of Mephisto

Moonlight, A Sailorman's Hymn, and Memento Mori?  :metal

Well frack....

Was it the original or rock version of Sailormans Hymn?

wow, what an awesome set (assuming the new songs rock)
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