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Re: Black Sabbath Discussion Thread
« Reply #770 on: September 14, 2016, 10:36:07 AM »
Mob Rules is ridiculously underrated. Same goes for Dehumanizer.

I'm also a huge Tyr fan. Classic Sabbath IMO.

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« Reply #771 on: September 14, 2016, 10:38:27 AM »
Falling off the Edge of the World and Over and Over are what I would call ridiculously underrated when it comes to that album. And on Dehumanizer Too Late is absolutely great as well.
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« Reply #772 on: September 14, 2016, 11:01:21 AM »
Falling off the Edge of the World and Over and Over are what I would call ridiculously underrated when it comes to that album. 

I don't know if they're underrated. They are both awesome, and have always thought they were well received.
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« Reply #774 on: September 14, 2016, 01:26:15 PM »
Falling off the Edge of the World and Over and Over are what I would call ridiculously underrated when it comes to that album. 

I don't know if they're underrated. They are both awesome, and have always thought they were well received.

Falling off the Edge of the World is one of the best songs of the Dio era.

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« Reply #775 on: September 14, 2016, 02:23:39 PM »
Easily. By far. Definitely. No doubt.
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« Reply #776 on: September 14, 2016, 02:37:16 PM »
Easily. By far. Definitely. No doubt.

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« Reply #777 on: September 14, 2016, 03:10:05 PM »
Falling off the Edge of the World and Over and Over are what I would call ridiculously underrated when it comes to that album. 

I don't know if they're underrated. They are both awesome, and have always thought they were well received.

Falling off the Edge of the World is one of the best songs of the Dio era.

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« Reply #778 on: September 14, 2016, 05:12:42 PM »
Falling off the Edge of the World really is fantastic.

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« Reply #779 on: September 18, 2016, 08:17:54 PM »
Falling off the Edge of the World and Over and Over are what I would call ridiculously underrated when it comes to that album. 

I don't know if they're underrated. They are both awesome, and have always thought they were well received.

Falling off the Edge of the World is one of the best songs of the Dio era.

Absolutely. It's also probably the best vocal performance Dio gave on any of his songs with Black Sabbath imo- which is saying a lot. By far my favorite era of the band. :hefdaddy
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« Reply #780 on: January 28, 2017, 02:28:13 PM »
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-black-sabbath-keyboardist-geoff-nicholls-dies-after-battle-with-lung-cancer/

He contributed a lot to Sabbath and its a shame that he didn't get the recognition he deserves for his time with the band.
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« Reply #781 on: January 28, 2017, 02:43:12 PM »
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-black-sabbath-keyboardist-geoff-nicholls-dies-after-battle-with-lung-cancer/

He contributed a lot to Sabbath and its a shame that he didn't get the recognition he deserves for his time with the band.

Fuck! And John Hurt died as well. 2017 begins badly. RIP Mr Nicholls.

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« Reply #782 on: January 28, 2017, 04:08:59 PM »
Noooooo that's very sad news  :'(
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« Reply #783 on: January 28, 2017, 04:36:33 PM »
Damn.
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« Reply #784 on: January 29, 2017, 03:52:26 AM »
Just read that sad news.  Definitely never got the recognition he deserved.  his work on everything from Heaven and Hell forward was just brilliant.  His sound on the Martin albums in particular gave them such a special atmosphere and sound.

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« Reply #785 on: January 29, 2017, 06:45:08 AM »
Well said.
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« Reply #786 on: January 29, 2017, 07:26:22 PM »
Well said.

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To me, he was so important to the sound of those Martin albums.  Wouldn't be as good without him.
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« Reply #787 on: January 30, 2017, 07:09:41 AM »
Very few keyboardists could play as well as he could behind a black curtain.  :)   

Iommi will tell you, he was a big part of Sabbath.

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« Reply #788 on: January 30, 2017, 07:23:43 AM »
Just read that sad news.  Definitely never got the recognition he deserved.  his work on everything from Heaven and Hell forward was just brilliant.  His sound on the Martin albums in particular gave them such a special atmosphere and sound.

RIP Geoff.

Perfect.

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« Reply #789 on: January 30, 2017, 09:43:56 AM »
Listened to Heaven and Hell today. Die Young was the song that made me a Sabbath fan, and that song just wouldn't be the same without the keyboards.

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« Reply #790 on: January 30, 2017, 09:58:32 AM »
Listened to Heaven and Hell today. Die Young was the song that made me a Sabbath fan, and that song just wouldn't be the same without the keyboards.

Great call!
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« Reply #791 on: January 30, 2017, 09:59:39 AM »
Geoff Nichols should have been the bass player on that album, while Geezer was out. He returned, Geoff switched to keyboard, and remain there until on 2004.
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« Reply #792 on: February 05, 2017, 01:20:20 AM »
It's officially over now, they did their very last show together last night in Birmingham.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIlPLCc0WnA
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« Reply #793 on: February 05, 2017, 02:05:47 AM »
It's officially over now, they did their very last show together last night in Birmingham.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIlPLCc0WnA

Maybe I'm being a grumpy old bugger, but as far I'm concerned the so-called reunion was no such thing without Bill. To quote Ozzy on the Last Supper DVD. "Black Sabbath is Tony Iommi, Bill Ward, Geezer Butler and Ozzy Osborne". Bill Ward's treatment was nothing short of disgraceful.

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« Reply #794 on: February 05, 2017, 04:33:49 AM »
They had a good run. We're forever in their debt.

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« Reply #795 on: February 05, 2017, 05:02:09 AM »
" What a sad , sad day "

Um.. They're all pushing 70 and the band has been around for like 50 years.

It's not like anyone died and you can no longer listen to the albums.

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« Reply #796 on: February 05, 2017, 05:05:13 AM »
" What a sad , sad day "

Um.. They're all pushing 70 and the band has been around for like 50 years.

It's not like anyone died and you can no longer listen to the albums.

So it can't still be sad that one of the greatest metal bands of all time that pioneered the very genre will never play again? Ok.
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« Reply #797 on: February 05, 2017, 05:06:42 AM »
Apparently they haven't even ruled out *NEVER* playing again. Just not a full tour.

Although it is weird they disband 1 year before their 50th.

Wouldn't be shocked if they did one more big show with Bill Ward next year for the actual anniversary.

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« Reply #798 on: February 06, 2017, 02:04:21 AM »
Well, I was at the penultimate show on Thursday, and it has to be said it was not great. They're looking tired, and should really call it a day. The setlist was also a bit stale, being almost exclusively from the first 3 albums. They played a short instrumental medley of the riffs from Supernaut, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Meglomania, which just reminded you how strong those albums were. And then they went back to playing sh1t like Hand of Doom and Dirty Women. And the 20 minute drum solo was inexcuseable.

The "golden circle" extended half way back the arena floor. A shocking money-grabbing exercise. There were far too many people crammed into the standing area at the back, and once the surge started, fights were breaking out left right and centre.

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« Reply #799 on: February 06, 2017, 04:41:29 AM »
" What a sad , sad day "

Um.. They're all pushing 70 and the band has been around for like 50 years.

It's not like anyone died and you can no longer listen to the albums.

Why even post this?

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« Reply #800 on: February 06, 2017, 07:38:06 AM »
" What a sad , sad day "

Um.. They're all pushing 70 and the band has been around for like 50 years.

It's not like anyone died and you can no longer listen to the albums.

Why even post this?

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« Reply #801 on: February 06, 2017, 07:44:27 AM »
It's officially over now, they did their very last show together last night in Birmingham.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIlPLCc0WnA

Maybe I'm being a grumpy old bugger, but as far I'm concerned the so-called reunion was no such thing without Bill. To quote Ozzy on the Last Supper DVD. "Black Sabbath is Tony Iommi, Bill Ward, Geezer Butler and Ozzy Osborne". Bill Ward's treatment was nothing short of disgraceful.

Except that Bill is his own worst enemy.  It's not the "treatment of Bill" that's so bad.  It's BILL that's so bad.  There is literally no such thing as "an unsignable contract".   If he wanted to do it, he could have; he was holding out for things that he had never received at any point in his time in the band, and yet now, he wants to play hardball?  AND make it public?  The funny thing is, everyone jumped to conclusions and blamed "Sharon", but IOMMI was the guy that was most vocal in "this is ridiculous".

I saw "The End" show in Mansfield, MA in August, and Bill could not have drummed that show.  He just couldn't have done it.   

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« Reply #802 on: February 06, 2017, 08:58:01 AM »
I'm not saying " ::) Who cares about Sabbath ?? " or " Boo hoo - people's fave band has quit - Get Over It ".

To me it would have meant more if they'd quit at the top of their game and not when they're all 70 odd years old and just hanging on for the cash.

The band are all still alive. They've hinted at one off shows here and there. Plus the albums still exist. . . And they'll no doubt be an album of unreleased material and live stuff etc etc...

So yeah.

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« Reply #803 on: February 06, 2017, 11:58:35 AM »
I'm glad I saw them last year.  Fantastic show!

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« Reply #804 on: February 06, 2017, 12:58:19 PM »
Personally, I thought Ozzy sounded very good (not GREAT, but very good) and to see the legends - tony and geezer - doing that intro to War Pigs, the way it's supposed to be, and that intro to After Forever... well, it's maybe more an intangible than simply "they're at the top of their game!".