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Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« on: June 06, 2018, 03:23:28 PM »
I'm stealing this from something I saw on Facebook earlier today, and the subject header says it all.  Some bands (Boston comes immediately to mind) came out strong but (IMO) petered out pretty quickly, while many others took an album or two to get their feet under them.

So...what do you say?

I think my vote goes to Queensryche:  the EP through Mindcrime are all really strong (although I didn't really care for Rage for Order right out of the box).
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2018, 03:24:19 PM »
Metallica
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2018, 03:25:29 PM »
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Metallica

Tough to top.

But outside of classic bands, I'll go with Pain of Salvation. They are hard to top.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2018, 03:26:42 PM »
Iron Maiden, you silly geese.

Also, Rhapsody, because I'm obliged to wave their banner high and proud.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2018, 03:27:44 PM »
Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2018, 03:24:19 PM
Metallica

Great answer :lol


I’m inclined to say something like Haken or Leprous

Steven Wilson solo career :neverusethis:

Pain of Salvation has a good batch of albums as well
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2018, 03:30:09 PM »
Pain Of Salvation is the first band that came to my mind one second after reading the question
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 03:35:19 PM »
Queensryche
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 03:44:21 PM »
Quote from: Kattoelox on June 06, 2018, 03:26:42 PM
Iron Maiden, you silly geese.

FIRST four albums, not any string of four albums ;p
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2018, 03:44:29 PM »
Pain of Salvation is a great answer
But imo The Hirsch Effekt is an even better one  :corn
Intronaut maybe but I've never been too thrilled on Valley
Leprous, also a good answer, if you'd said 5 it'd be a strong nope though  :corn
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2018, 03:46:21 PM »
King's X
Pain of Salvation
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2018, 03:46:50 PM »
Quote from: Elite on June 06, 2018, 03:44:21 PM
Quote from: Kattoelox on June 06, 2018, 03:26:42 PM
Iron Maiden, you silly geese.

FIRST four albums, not any string of four albums ;p

First four albums kicked serious ass. LEAGUES better than Sabbath's, Metallica's, Megadeth's, I can't speak for Queen but I'm pretty certain they don't come close for my tastes, and Zeppelin's. The Paul albums rule, I'll defend them forever, and NOTB and Piece of Mind (other than Sun and Steel and Quest For Fire) are incredible as well.  :biggrin:
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2018, 03:53:25 PM »
First four Maiden albums are amazing!



I'd also say Aerosmith's first four albums are excellent.

I's also say Ozzy.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2018, 03:54:12 PM »
Quote from: Kattoelox on June 06, 2018, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: Elite on June 06, 2018, 03:44:21 PM
Quote from: Kattoelox on June 06, 2018, 03:26:42 PM
Iron Maiden, you silly geese.

FIRST four albums, not any string of four albums ;p

First four albums kicked serious ass. LEAGUES better than Sabbath's, Metallica's, Megadeth's, I can't speak for Queen but I'm pretty certain they don't come close for my tastes, and Zeppelin's. The Paul albums rule, I'll defend them forever, and NOTB and Piece of Mind (other than Sun and Steel and Quest For Fire) are incredible as well.  :biggrin:

I thought about Maiden, but I'm not a huge fan of the first two albums.  IMO, there's no more than one album's worth of above average material between the two.  For me, Metallica's first four are pretty significantly better than Maiden's first four (even though I'm not a huge Kill 'Em All fan).
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2018, 04:03:36 PM »
Kill 'Em All is my fave!
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2018, 04:37:10 PM »
Oceansize  :hat
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2018, 04:44:20 PM »
Threshold or Riverside for me.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2018, 04:57:55 PM »
I don't count an EP as an album for the purposes of this thread, so I agree that Queenryche had a very strong first four (Warning through Empire).

However, I will take:

Led Zeppelin
Camel
The Moody Blues
The Flower Kings
Van Halen
Rush
Dream Theater

I am sure I am forgetting a bunch. :lol :lol
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2018, 05:00:02 PM »
If you remembered Camel and The Moody Blues, you didn't forget anything. :lol
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2018, 05:02:41 PM »
DT should be on my list as well.  I don't listen to When Dream and Day Unite much because I don't care much for the vocals, but I really like the songs and it's a very impressive debut.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2018, 05:13:00 PM »
Quote from: Zantera on June 06, 2018, 04:37:10 PM
Oceansize  :hat
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Let's also propose: Coheed & Cambria
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2018, 05:32:09 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on June 06, 2018, 04:57:55 PM
I don't count an EP as an album for the purposes of this thread, so I agree that Queenryche had a very strong first four (Warning through Empire).

However, I will take:

Led Zeppelin
Camel
The Moody Blues
The Flower Kings
Van Halen
Rush
Dream Theater

I had a feeling someone would object to QR's EP being used, but I'd probably still take QR on the strength of The Warning through Empire.

Zeppelin's first three albums have a number of highlights but too much filler/stuff I don't like.  Same with VH's first four.  WDADU and FII prevent me from picking DT.  Same with Caress of Steel and Rush's debut.  I'm not sufficiently familiar with the other bands mentioned to comment (and have never heard of one of them).
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2018, 05:35:30 PM »
Zeppelin III has a few songs I do not care for, but I, II and IV are all pretty flawless.

I am guessing Camel is the band you are not familiar with?
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2018, 05:41:23 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on June 06, 2018, 05:35:30 PM
Zeppelin III has a few songs I do not care for, but I, II and IV are all pretty flawless.

I am guessing Camel is the band you are not familiar with?

Yup (not familiar with the Flower Kings either, but I've heard the name before).

As for Zep, opinions, I could make one and a half good albums from the first three:

Good Times
Dazed
Breakdown
An abbreviated version of How Many More Times
Whole Lotta Love
Heartbreaker
LL Maid
Ramble
Immigrant Song

Maybe one or two others off II or III; it's been a while since I've spun them.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2018, 05:52:04 PM »
Not sure how Marillion hasn't been mentioned yet.
Also:
Agalloch (Pale Folklore is the weakest, but the 3 that followed are so strong it doesn't matter. It's still a good album though)
Smashing Pumpkins (Gish through Adore is pretty tough to top from nineties bands)
The Mars Volta
Mastodon (those first 4 albums are so good!)
Candlemass (I don't think there is a better 4 album run of Doom Metal by any band)
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2018, 06:19:53 PM »
In order:

Haken
Pain of Salvation


I'm not sure anyone else even comes close.   Not even my top 2 bands.  (Rush and DT) 

PoS has stayed pretty good, but never quite matched the amazing "next level" quality of those first four. 

Haken is untouchable right now.   If their 5th is anywhere near their first 4, they could be making a run at being my new all time favorite band. 
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2018, 06:25:09 PM »
Considering Bedlam is one of my least favorite albums ever I'd definitely disagree with TMV being on this list :P
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2018, 06:31:40 PM »
Really unsure how Rush makes anyone's list - this coming from a guy who's #2 fave band is Rush! Zeppelin was my instantaneous first thought.  I could possibly get on board with the idea of Van Halen and/or Ozzy. Queen and Metallica would be in the running.  But (and I know I'm biased here), Zeppelin is in the clear lead, imo.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2018, 06:33:22 PM »
Rush is a homer pick for me. :P :biggrin:

Black Sabbath has to be in this conversation as well. :metal
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2018, 07:00:48 PM »
Black Sabbath was the first band that came into my mind.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2018, 07:05:02 PM »
Transatlantic and Steven Wilson  ;)

But seriously, I'd say Queen and Kansas, and Led Zeppelin is also a pretty good choice.

For more modern bands, I'd toss in The Flower Kings, Haken (yeah, I know), and The Tangent.

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2018, 07:10:42 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on June 06, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
Rush is a homer pick for me. :P :biggrin:

You're from Cleveland? Only someone from Cleveland could be THAT much of a homer.   :D

No one has mentioned Spock's Beard?  I know Day For Night is not universally loved, but it's one of my fave's.

Also surprised TAC hasn't fellated something to do with Schenker in this thread.  At least he's smart enough not to make a homer pick like Alice Cooper.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2018, 07:17:45 PM »
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 06, 2018, 07:10:42 PM

Also surprised TAC hasn't fellated something to do with Schenker in this thread.  At least he's smart enough not to make a homer pick like Alice Cooper.

For me personally, I could definitely put Michael Schenker's first 4 albums.


Technically, the Alice Cooper band's first two albums were Easy Action and Pretties For You. They are fairly obscure. If I didn't have to count those, the initial Warner Bros run of Love It To Death-Killer-School's Out-Billion Dollar Babies is exceptional. The most underrated American Classic Rock band.

I have the same issue with UFO. They had two very obscure albums before Schenker joined, but again, if I didn't have to include those, the initial Chrysalis run of Phenomenon-Force It-No Heavy Petting-Lights Out would rule.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2018, 07:27:16 PM »
Haken
The Dear Hunter
Diablo Swing Orchestra
Ayreon (The Final Experiment and Actual Fantasy are pretty good ngl)
Moulettes
Carly Rae Jepsen
Taylor Swift
Submotion Orchestra
Agalloch

Only three (but going strong):
iamthemorning
Ne Obliviscaris
Whispered
Frost*
CHVRCHES
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2018, 07:31:56 PM »
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Quote from: KevShmev on June 06, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
Rush is a homer pick for me. :P :biggrin:

You're from Cleveland? Only someone from Cleveland could be THAT much of a homer.   :D



If I was a true homer, I would pick Sammy Hagar (since I am from St Louis and this city loves him like he was born here). ;)
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