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First heavy metal song ever?

Blue Cheer - Summertime Blues
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Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
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First heavy metal song ever?
« on: February 12, 2018, 10:38:13 AM »
In your opinion, what is it?

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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 10:42:49 AM »
I know this is a hotly contested subject but to me the Blue Cheer piece is simply rock. That's it. It's got groove... screams rock to me. Not metal.

Sabbath's tune is definitive proto-metal imo. It's that tritone with that meaty guitar sound. And the doomy, evil nature of it... yeah, man.  :hat
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 11:30:13 AM »
Judas Priest's Sad Wings of Destiny could be called the first heavy metal album.
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2018, 11:50:29 AM »
I strongly, but respectfully push back on that.    One, it's not all metal, and two, 1976.   After Iron Man.  After Burn.   After "In Rock". After "Truth".  After "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida".

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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2018, 12:10:28 PM »
The whole thing is an evolution. There isn't really a starting point. Only a point where you think the elements all came together, and that's a matter of interpretation. Personally, I'd probably go with You Really Got Me, though plenty will come along and say "bah, that's not metal!"
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2018, 12:15:29 PM »
Judas Priest's Sad Wings of Destiny could be called the first heavy metal album.

But even Black Sabbath's Master Of Reality, their third album (one of their heaviest too) came 5 fucking years before that  :mehlin :mehlin
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2018, 12:16:53 PM »
The whole thing is an evolution. There isn't really a starting point. Only a point where you think the elements all came together, and that's a matter of interpretation. Personally, I'd probably go with You Really Got Me, though plenty will come along and say "bah, that's not metal!"

No, but that's a good call.  There are others like that, too, from "Helter Skelter" to "21st Century Schizoid Man".

By the way, wrong  thread for this, but I just got reintroduced to the Kinks; from about 1970 through "Word of Mouth" there are few catalogues that can compete with what Ray Davies did.   Opera, rock, metal, pop, folk, social commentary, not social commentary...  really, really genius stuff.

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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2018, 12:28:57 PM »
The whole thing is an evolution. There isn't really a starting point. Only a point where you think the elements all came together, and that's a matter of interpretation. Personally, I'd probably go with You Really Got Me, though plenty will come along and say "bah, that's not metal!"

Came here to post this exact song, first one as far as I know to have "that" sound. Add it to the poll please...

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2018, 12:32:04 PM »
Judas Priest's Sad Wings of Destiny could be called the first heavy metal album.

But even Black Sabbath's Master Of Reality, their third album (one of their heaviest too) came 5 fucking years before that  :mehlin :mehlin

To say nothing of Sabotage and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and a bunch of albums by Deep Purple, AC/DC, Scorpions, UFO, etc., all of which predate Sad Wings.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2018, 12:39:27 PM »
Well, in my defense I could say that as El Barto pointed out, the whole thing was an evoloution, and that by the time of SWoD, that might have been the first time you could tie the word "metal" to it without the need to call back to other genres... but Black Sabbath (the song) is a nice candidate too all things considered  ;D
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2018, 12:53:15 PM »
Mars - Bringer of War.
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2018, 12:58:01 PM »
Mars - Bringer of War.

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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2018, 12:59:32 PM »
Mars - Bringer of War.

 :lol  If we're going there, then I say go back further for Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2018, 01:19:48 PM »
The earliest one I listen to is Helter Skelter.
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2018, 01:21:12 PM »
What about Born to be Wild?  1968.  Seemed early enough, or it does not count?

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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2018, 02:22:44 PM »
The whole thing is an evolution. There isn't really a starting point. Only a point where you think the elements all came together, and that's a matter of interpretation.
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2018, 02:48:18 PM »
What about Born to be Wild?  1968.  Seemed early enough, or it does not count?

That was the first one that popped in my head too.
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2018, 04:20:32 PM »
Mars - Bringer of War.

 :lol  If we're going there, then I say go back further for Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor

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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2018, 04:27:13 PM »
Vivaldi started it all and anointed Yngwie J. Malmsteen as his successor.  Anyone else is kidding themselves.
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2018, 05:07:53 PM »
Judas Priest's Sad Wings of Destiny could be called the first heavy metal album.

If someone wants to ignore Black Sabbath, sure.

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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2018, 05:12:26 PM »
Vivaldi started it all and anointed Yngwie J. Malmsteen as his successor.  Anyone else is kidding themselves.

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2018, 05:34:19 PM »
The Beatles-Helter Skelter
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2018, 09:42:03 PM »
The Beatles-Helter Skelter

That's barely even garage rock  :rollin :rollin
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2018, 09:43:10 PM »
Vivaldi started it all and anointed Yngwie J. Malmsteen as his successor.  Anyone else is kidding themselves.

Pretty standard classical music mate  :tdwn
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2018, 09:49:34 PM »
I think I might have to unleash the fookin'  fury  :lol


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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2018, 10:19:41 PM »
Heavy metal's beginnings IMO


Iron Butterfly: Iron Butterfly Theme  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDoWtqIGUjY
The Crazy World of Arthur Brown: Fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1uwIzI3SE
The Crazy World of Arthur Brown: Confusion (I didn't see a split version with just Confusion, Confusion starts at 3:15 mark)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf7xA51kMes
Mc5: Kick Out The Jams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYg-a3W35CE
Mc5: I Want You Right Now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1teJmDoHJc
Grand Funk Railroad: Inside Looking Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxcOxvEsE_Y
Grand Funk Railroad: Into The Sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dzlT1ihN6o
Grand Funk Railroad: Paranoid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1BqwRPZWyI
Blue Cheer: Out of Focus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8xTHJsDgiE

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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2018, 11:56:18 PM »
Vivaldi started it all and anointed Yngwie J. Malmsteen as his successor.  Anyone else is kidding themselves.

Pretty standard classical music mate  :tdwn

I think I might have to unleash the fookin'  fury  :lol


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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2018, 08:30:54 AM »
I know this is a hotly contested subject but to me the Blue Cheer piece is simply rock. That's it. It's got groove... screams rock to me. Not metal.

Sabbath's tune is definitive proto-metal imo. It's that tritone with that meaty guitar sound. And the doomy, evil nature of it... yeah, man.  :hat
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2018, 10:17:09 AM »
Is there an option for "I don't particularly care"?  Like others have said, it's an evolution.  I get some people, and even the artists, may take pride in saying "this is the first" but as shown here, it's deeply contested and can be easily disputed no matter what you chose since nothing is so clear.  For that reason, I don't really care what the first metal song ever was.  I'm just glad the music progressed this way and have been trying to get to see lots of the bands who started it all over the years as my way of respect to the genre (and of course for my own enjoyment)

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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2018, 11:50:37 AM »
What about Born to be Wild?  1968.  Seemed early enough, or it does not count?

That was the first one that popped in my head too.

Me too. Hell, it is even the first song citing something as heavy metal ("heavy metal thunder").

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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2018, 02:35:58 PM »
Just as an aside, I friggin' hate that song.

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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2018, 04:21:53 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music#Origins:_late_1960s_and_early_1970s

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Critics disagree over who can be thought of as the first heavy metal band. Most credit either Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath, with American commentators tending to favour Led Zeppelin and British commentators tending to favour Black Sabbath, though many give equal credit to both. A few commentators—mainly American—argue for other groups including Iron Butterfly, Steppenwolf or Blue Cheer.[130] Deep Purple, the third band in what is sometimes considered the "unholy trinity" of heavy metal (Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, and Deep Purple), despite being slightly older than Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin, fluctuated between many rock styles until late 1969 when they took a heavy metal direction.[131]

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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2018, 01:15:44 PM »
Just as an aside, I friggin' hate that song.

You love it.
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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2018, 01:31:27 PM »
My vote:

Pink Floyd - "The Nile Song" (1969) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MduQlWUoyhI

Pink Floyd - "Ibiza Bar" (1969) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiXwUS9FFgc
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: First heavy metal song ever?
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2018, 02:45:27 PM »
Just as an aside, I friggin' hate that song.

You love it.

I disagree with you.