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Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« on: February 03, 2018, 12:38:47 PM »
To start this thing off, I present to the court: Batman forever



I hated this movie when it first came out, since it wasn't dark and morose like Burton's film, but boy was it popular in 95 upon first release as people really didn't like Returns. Now, after Nolan's films people have really changed their minds on this movie, but I have grown to appreciate it.

First of all, its fun. Sure its dumb in some places, but its fun. Its nothing too heavy, but also not overboard campy. At least with the first Schumacher film, it at least tries to take itself seriously. I think Kilmer does an awesome job as batman. A good blend of strength and sadness. Jim carrey is slightly annoying but very entertaining. Tommy lee jones plays two face totally wrong, but its still entertaining imo. Rather than trying to outdo Carrey, he could have went to the opposite end of the spectrum and played two face cold and serious. That's would have been a cool mix, but oh well. Pacing wise, it moves really well and doesn't overstay its welcome. Sometimes movies don't need to be almost 3 hours, but whatever.

The art direction is bombastic and engaging, like a future noir thing but mixed with 50's art deco. The film score is solid and memorable, and the movie is very quotable. And I love Kiss by a rose and U2's kiss me kill me.

So overall I enjoying throwing on Batman forever from time to time. In a world where we have the uber realistic Nolan films and the macbre fairy tale of burton's films, its nice to have something in the middle.

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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2018, 02:58:40 PM »
1998 Godzilla is the best Godzilla.

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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2018, 06:14:44 PM »
Two of Kostners apocalyptic movies, The Postman and Waterworld. Loved them both.
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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2018, 06:25:23 PM »
I feel like it'd take me a good long while to mount a defense for mother!, and it'll be kind of pointless since I like it a lot but I don't LOVE it to the point of writing out multiple paragraphs about why it's great.
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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2018, 06:30:22 PM »
Legend. Fantasy movie from 1986 satarring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, and Tim Curry. Great visuals, story, and soundtrack by Tangerine Dream and Jon Anderson.
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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2018, 06:34:16 PM »
Legend. Fantasy movie from 1986 satarring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, and Tim Curry. Great visuals, story, and soundtrack by Tangerine Dream and Jon Anderson.

Yeah. Liked that one a lot. It’s been a while since I’ve seen that one though.
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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2018, 07:37:23 PM »
1998 Godzilla is the best Godzilla.

Two of Kostners apocalyptic movies, The Postman and Waterworld. Loved them both.

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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2018, 11:24:17 PM »
Legend. Fantasy movie from 1986 satarring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, and Tim Curry. Great visuals, story, and soundtrack by Tangerine Dream and Jon Anderson.

What? I thought many people liked this movie. I know a lot of people that do. So it wasn't even on my radar for consideration.
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2018, 12:35:25 AM »
Hudson Hawk. The movie is so fuckin' stupid, but I enjoy it every time I see it.

Andy McDowell is absolutely gorgeous in this film as well.
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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2018, 06:39:05 AM »
Legend. Fantasy movie from 1986 satarring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, and Tim Curry. Great visuals, story, and soundtrack by Tangerine Dream and Jon Anderson.

What? I thought many people liked this movie. I know a lot of people that do. So it wasn't even on my radar for consideration.

Yeah this is definitely a cult hit. So maybe...kinda sorta on the list...but I don't think cult hits would count since that small sect has a huge love for it.

My initial pick is more recent and probably more people mostly disliking it than the former cult status but I think there's a few that really like it. Ghost In The Shell. I love me some ScarJo, not just for the eye candy but I do think she hits all the character points pretty well and she clearly puts a lot of work into her acting and doesn't just phone it in. I really like the world they built and tried to make their own, despite it not working out entirely throughout some of the movie. I think it felt very respectful of the source material despite the foaming-at-the-mouth zealots crucifying it for not being the anime come to life (which will never, ever happen for any film adaptation of an anime...because it's fucking anime). For what we got though, I was very pleasantly surprised. Also Michael Pitt is bae and he did a superb job and basically made up for any misfires the movie had in my eyes.

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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2018, 08:42:25 AM »
Hudson Hawk. The movie is so fuckin' stupid, but I enjoy it every time I see it.

Andy McDowell is absolutely gorgeous in this film as well.

Yes! Love it  :tup.   I always expected a sequel
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2018, 08:52:18 AM »
One saving grace of Batman Forever is that Nicole Kidman is absurdingly and exagerately hot in there.
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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2018, 10:44:17 AM »
Legend. Fantasy movie from 1986 satarring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, and Tim Curry. Great visuals, story, and soundtrack by Tangerine Dream and Jon Anderson.

What? I thought many people liked this movie. I know a lot of people that do. So it wasn't even on my radar for consideration.

Yeah this is definitely a cult hit. So maybe...kinda sorta on the list...but I don't think cult hits would count since that small sect has a huge love for it.

My initial pick is more recent and probably more people mostly disliking it than the former cult status but I think there's a few that really like it. Ghost In The Shell. I love me some ScarJo, not just for the eye candy but I do think she hits all the character points pretty well and she clearly puts a lot of work into her acting and doesn't just phone it in. I really like the world they built and tried to make their own, despite it not working out entirely throughout some of the movie. I think it felt very respectful of the source material despite the foaming-at-the-mouth zealots crucifying it for not being the anime come to life (which will never, ever happen for any film adaptation of an anime...because it's fucking anime). For what we got though, I was very pleasantly surprised. Also Michael Pitt is bae and he did a superb job and basically made up for any misfires the movie had in my eyes.

I went to see Ghost in the Shell, without knowing much about the anime. I really liked it!

My friend who is really into anime, said I should really check out the original..


The original Blade Runner is an obvious answer, a lot pf people still don't get the movie. It's one of my all time favorite movies. Other is Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome. It is the worst of the Mad Max movies, but i can still watch it no problem..

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 11:16:38 AM »
Is Batman Forever the one with the line "Holy Rusted Metal, Batman!"?  I loved that.  Callback to the campy 60's TV series, then actually explained in a way that's not completely stupid.

Legend. Fantasy movie from 1986 satarring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, and Tim Curry. Great visuals, story, and soundtrack by Tangerine Dream and Jon Anderson.

"She was so sweet, I could eat her brains like jam!" -- One of the goblins.  What a great line.  Legend was one of the first DVDs we bought when we got our new DVD player, like 100 years ago.

Two of Kostners apocalyptic movies, The Postman and Waterworld. Loved them both.

I thought Waterworld was great.  Mutations don't work like that, but whatever.  Everything else was actually pretty cool, from his boat to Dennis Hopper being Dennis Hopper and being basically insane.  I kinda liked what The Postman was going for; it just didn't really grab me.  I remember the babe being pretty hot, though, so there is that.

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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2018, 11:20:24 AM »
Never saw The Postman.  But I'm surprised to see Waterworld listed here.  I thought that movie was fairly well liked.
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2018, 11:34:08 AM »
Never saw The Postman.  But I'm surprised to see Waterworld listed here.  I thought that movie was fairly well liked.

I think the major issue with it was that it went WAY over budget. The set was destroyed in a typhoon.

I thought it was a pretty cool movie. And the only real knock on the Postman I'd have would be that it's LONG. But, I thought it all worked....another neat idea.
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2018, 11:36:32 AM »
They both came out at a time when it was cool to bash Kevin Costner, for some reason.  I remember both of those movies getting ripped up pretty badly when they came out.

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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2018, 12:38:08 PM »
Legend. Fantasy movie from 1986 satarring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, and Tim Curry. Great visuals, story, and soundtrack by Tangerine Dream and Jon Anderson.

Yeah. Liked that one a lot. It’s been a while since I’ve seen that one though.

I actually have the soundtrack on CD.
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2018, 01:11:01 PM »
They both came out at a time when it was cool to bash Kevin Costner, for some reason. 

Reason being he is a shitty actor who was in a ton of movies.
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2018, 01:23:23 PM »
Anyone else like that Wachowski's film Cloud Atlas?

It starred Halle Berry, Tom Hanks and bunch of others. They all had multiple roles in the film, as it jumped between different eras and timelines. I remember when reviewers slammed the movie when it came out, but I really liked it!

My favorite movie from them, beside The Matrix of course.

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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2018, 01:24:57 PM »
Attack of the Clones.


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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2018, 01:27:59 PM »
Anyone else like that Wachowski's film Cloud Atlas?

It starred Halle Berry, Tom Hanks and bunch of others. They all had multiple roles in the film, as it jumped between different eras and timelines. I remember when reviewers slammed the movie when it came out, but I really liked it!

My favorite movie from them, beside The Matrix of course.

Not a bad movie, but just not a very good movie at all either.

And saying it's your favorite after the Matrix isn't saying much. I just checked their filmography and man, they really did only have one good movie.
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2018, 01:32:43 PM »
Anyone else like that Wachowski's film Cloud Atlas?

It starred Halle Berry, Tom Hanks and bunch of others. They all had multiple roles in the film, as it jumped between different eras and timelines. I remember when reviewers slammed the movie when it came out, but I really liked it!

My favorite movie from them, beside The Matrix of course.

Not a bad movie, but just not a very good movie at all either.

And saying it's your favorite after the Matrix isn't saying much. I just checked their filmography and man, they really did only have one good movie.

It was an enjoyable film. Not Great, not bad.

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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2018, 01:53:59 PM »
Attack of the Clones.


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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2018, 03:39:24 PM »
Attack of the Clones.


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To be fair I liked half of that movie.
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2018, 04:41:42 PM »
Attack of the Clones.


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For me, this is a not-too-bad movie with two or three really horrendous subplots and scenes.  It's also the worst of the Star Wars movies, so it suffers by comparison.

I'd have a much easier time with "movies that everyone thinks are great but you hate" (maybe that thread already exists).  I can think of a couple movies I liked that weren't particularly popular, but I'm not sure I can think of one that I like that most people don't.
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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2018, 03:10:21 PM »
I'll second The Postman and Ghost In The Shell.

Saw The Postman twice in the theater when it was out. Both times people walked out of the movie fairly early on.

I have no prior knowledge of Ghost other than it was a vaunted anime. I enjoyed the movie and ScarJo is a goddess to me so that is always a plus. I know it got brutalized but I like it.

Mission To Mars is another one that I believe gets tons of hate. I really liked it.

I guess I'm not really defending. Just stating that I like some hated films.
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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2018, 08:50:15 AM »
Halloween 3 for sure, I haven't met many people that actually like it but I've always enjoyed it. I actually think it's better than every Halloween movie that came after it. It has one of my favorite soundtracks of any horror movie as well. I'm a huge fan of old horror movies, but aside from a few classics, I'm not really into Slasher movies at all. That's why I've always appreciated that they wanted to try something different with the series and go with a new and original idea that didn't involve Michael Myers. Unfortunately, it seems like many people never even gave it a chance for that reason.

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« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2018, 09:21:54 AM »
Halloween 3 for sure, I haven't met many people that actually like it but I've always enjoyed it. I actually think it's better than every Halloween movie that came after it. It has one of my favorite soundtracks of any horror movie as well. I'm a huge fan of old horror movies, but aside from a few classics, I'm not really into Slasher movies at all. That's why I've always appreciated that they wanted to try something different with the series and go with a new and original idea that didn't involve Michael Myers. Unfortunately, it seems like many people never even gave it a chance for that reason.

I'm on board with you on this one for sure. Season of the witch is a cool, creepy movie. And the halloween franchise would have been much better off as anthology film series imo. Could have kept it fresh. Some might have been bad, some might have been awesome. We'll never know.

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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2018, 09:39:03 AM »
Oh wow, I totally forgot about that cheeseball scene  :rollin That movie was pretty bad, but it was still entertaining enough for me to watch the entire thing. I can't say the same for the second Rob Zombie one, that's the only Halloween movie that I didn't like at all.

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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2018, 01:57:18 PM »
Anyone else like that Wachowski's film Cloud Atlas?

It starred Halle Berry, Tom Hanks and bunch of others. They all had multiple roles in the film, as it jumped between different eras and timelines. I remember when reviewers slammed the movie when it came out, but I really liked it!

My favorite movie from them, beside The Matrix of course.

I LOVE Cloud Atlas. Maybe not as much as The Matrix but it would be up there in my top20 favorite movies.

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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2018, 02:32:20 PM »
Man Of Steel. 
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2018, 06:20:38 PM »
Anyone else like that Wachowski's film Cloud Atlas?

It starred Halle Berry, Tom Hanks and bunch of others. They all had multiple roles in the film, as it jumped between different eras and timelines. I remember when reviewers slammed the movie when it came out, but I really liked it!

My favorite movie from them, beside The Matrix of course.

I LOVE Cloud Atlas. Maybe not as much as The Matrix but it would be up there in my top20 favorite movies.


I randomly stumbled upon Cloud Atlas one time when I decided to get a hotel room. I enjoyed it, I found it to be pretty good.
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Re: Defend a movie that most people don't like, but you do
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2018, 07:59:26 PM »
It has its flaws, but I actually enjoyed cloud atlas quite a bit.

Here goes a movie I really find hilarious, but it didn't do well at the box office and got crappy reviews:



Maybe I find it funnier since I play guitar and have been in go-nowhere bands and know how frustrating that can be, but I love this movie. And from top to bottom there are tons of famous and very talented actors in this thing.

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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2018, 08:11:00 PM »
Airheads is awesome.



My choice is Mixed Nuts. No one seems to even like it but I love it. Any one else seen it?
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