Ariich's ALBUM Roulette; or, Is The Man Completely Mad? (completed)

[jingle.boy]

you've only got 3 scrobbles for my band.

Oh, wait... never mind.

[ariich]

That is indeed the way to check my progress on what I've listened to so far.

[Crow]

you listened to that toehider album a second time really quick so i assume it's your favorite 

[TAC]

You'd have a lot more opinionating if you let me play, jerk.





 

[King Postwhore]

Oh I know what Chad sent.

[ariich]

you listened to that toehider album a second time really quick so i assume it's your favorite 

Order of listens (first or second) is not related to preferences. First order was by format (mp3s then Spotify) and then alphabetical among the Spotify ones. Second listen was at random so that I was hearing them in a different order, so as not to bias the listen by what I've heard before or after.

[Stadler]

I also do, however, think that Rainbow - Rising is the best album out of this bunch. It's my #3 album of all time.

Rising is the clear winner there. Made my top 5 albums of all time.

That's pretty high praise for an album with 2 good songs. 

That stabs me right in the heart.   Just curious, what's the other one (besides Stargazer)?    Honestly the weakest one for me - and it's all relative; this is a top ten album all time by anyone, for me - is Starstruck, and really only because of the lyrics.   

[TAC]

That stabs me right in the heart.   Just curious, what's the other one (besides Stargazer)?    Honestly the weakest one for me - and it's all relative; this is a top ten album all time by anyone, for me - is Starstruck, and really only because of the lyrics.   

Rising is good for only Stargazer and A Light In The Black. If I'm ranking Dio era Rainbow, I could probably list 10 other tracks before I circle back to anything on Rising.

[Evermind]

What the hell, Tarot Woman and Run with the Wolf are brilliant. I'd say the weakest track is Do You Close Your Eyes, and it's still pretty damn good.

I must say, if we're talking Dio era, there are a lot of brilliant tracks on both the debut and LLRnR too, so yeah, it's tough to pick favourites for me.

[TAC]

What the hell, Tarot Woman and Run with the Wolf are brilliant. 

Brilliant? No, Stargazer and ALITB are brilliant. No one is going to confuse TW and RTTW with those two. But like I said, I'd take at least half of the debut and at least  half of LLRNR before I came back to anything on Side 1 of Rising.

[Evermind]

What the hell, Tarot Woman and Run with the Wolf are brilliant. 

Brilliant? No, Stargazer and ALITB are brilliant. No one is going to confuse TW and RTTW with those two. But like I said, I'd take at least half of the debut and at least  half of LLRNR before I came back to anything on Side 1 of Rising.

Stargazer > Run with the Wolf > Tarot Woman > A Light in the Black > Starstruck > Do You Close Your Eyes

But I get it, tastes.

For me, the difference between debut / LLRnR and Rising is that all the songs on Rising are ranging from good to awesome. The songs from debut and LLRnR, well, it's half killer, half filler.

Going further on the controversial side, I would take Stranger in Us All over any of JLT-fronted albums.

[Crow]

ooh, are we ranking all the songs on our albums now, i'm game

the apologist > underachiever > linear failure > whiskey sipper > horseback riding in a bicycle world > running tab of sweetness > naif > false build > precious memories > my favorite society guy > nurser of small hurts > a functional tumor
like the top 9-10 are all super close though really. it's super hard to even vaguely order them

[Elite]

I’d rank my album if someone would guess what I sent

[Crow]

did you send darwin's radio i guess? i dunno, nekov sent papadosio, i sent eotw, stadler sent rainbow, ev send vanden plas, and someone already guessed that you sent toehider which is apparently wrong (even though based on what's sent i'd absolutely think that one is you  )

[Evermind]

ooh, are we ranking all the songs on our albums now, i'm game

We aren't ranking songs on our albums, we're ranking the songs on the other participants' albums.

[Crow]

oh i see

i don't remember the speaking to stones album enough to rank the tracks but they're all pretty close together

[Elite]

okay, I sent Toehider

[jingle.boy]

did you send darwin's radio i guess?

No... he didn't

Edit - ninja'd

[ariich]

So a brief update - I'm enjoying all the albums, so well done on no duds. Some are definitely grabbing/interesting me more than others but there's plenty to like in every one of them. I'm also really digging the variety - only one of them is outside the rock/metal genres, but even the rest have quite a mix of tone, style, etc. This is exactly why I wanted to do a roulette for the first time in years, and why I wanted to make it an album roulette.

The hardest thing is going to be eliminating one of you!

Expect results in the next couple of days, as promised.

[Stadler]

What the hell, Tarot Woman and Run with the Wolf are brilliant. 

Brilliant? No, Stargazer and ALITB are brilliant. No one is going to confuse TW and RTTW with those two. But like I said, I'd take at least half of the debut and at least  half of LLRNR before I came back to anything on Side 1 of Rising.

Stargazer > Run with the Wolf > Tarot Woman > A Light in the Black > Starstruck > Do You Close Your Eyes

But I get it, tastes.

For me, the difference between debut / LLRnR and Rising is that all the songs on Rising are ranging from good to awesome. The songs from debut and LLRnR, well, it's half killer, half filler.

Going further on the controversial side, I would take Stranger in Us All over any of JLT-fronted albums.

See, now you lost me.   Bent Out Of Shape is probably my second favorite Rainbow albums, and I sometimes listen to it over Rising.  "Fire Dance" is probably the top two or three vocal performances in the catalogue.  AS A GROUP, I prefer the JLT era to any other, because while there are better SONGS in the Dio era, there are better ALBUMS in the JLT era.   

1. Rising (Only because it came first)
2. Bent Out of Shape (One of my favorite albums of all time)
3. Straight Between The Eyes (All killer, no filler)
3. LLRnR (drops below SBTE because of L.A. Connection and Sensitive To Light-a.  I just might-a!)
5. Down To Earth (underrated, even though I hate Since You've Been Gone, and not a huge Bonnet fan)
5. Difficult to Cure (Side two is awesome for me, plus I love Blackmore's instrumentals)
5. Rainbow (A little too much filler; when the Blackmore's Night version of "Self Portrait" is better, that's a problem)
8. Stranger In Us All (I don't mind Doogie, but the album just didn't work for me)

Songs on Rising:
Stargazer/Tarot Woman/Run With The Wolf/Light In The Black/Do You Close Your Eyes/Starstruck

[ariich]

BREAKING NEWS: Round One results and write-ups will be tomorrow evening.

We're potentially looking at a three-way tiebreaker for elimination.

[Crow]

Tiebreaker idea: album with the worst best song

[Elite]

Kind of unfair if you have an album with 3 tracks up against an album with 12 tracks.

[ariich]

Kind of unfair if you have an album with 3 tracks up against an album with 12 tracks.

Parama's idea was worst best song, not best worst song.

But regardless, I've decided that tiebreakers will be new submissions, but single songs (like a traditional roulette) so I can cover them off quickly and move onto the next round.

[Crow]

Kind of unfair if you have an album with 3 tracks up against an album with 12 tracks.

Plenty of albums where the best song isn't the longest anyways 

[Nekov]

Kind of unfair if you have an album with 3 tracks up against an album with 12 tracks.

Parama's idea was worst best song, not best worst song.

But regardless, I've decided that tiebreakers will be new submissions, but single songs (like a traditional roulette) so I can cover them off quickly and move onto the next round.

Does it have to be from the same band?

[Elite]

Kind of unfair if you have an album with 3 tracks up against an album with 12 tracks.

Plenty of albums where the best song isn't the longest anyways 

Like every Dream Theater album

[jingle.boy]

Kind of unfair if you have an album with 3 tracks up against an album with 12 tracks.

Parama's idea was worst best song, not best worst song.

But regardless, I've decided that tiebreakers will be new submissions, but single songs (like a traditional roulette) so I can cover them off quickly and move onto the next round.

This is a nice convenient way of getting more music!   

Does it have to be from the same band?

Not that I have to worry about this ( ) ... but would hope not.  If I was in the bottom three, Darwin's Radio only has one other album.  It's got a couple of decent ones, but nothing I'd want to use in a do-or-die tiebreaker.

But like I said, thankfully I don't need to worry about this.   

[Stadler]

Kind of unfair if you have an album with 3 tracks up against an album with 12 tracks.

Parama's idea was worst best song, not best worst song.

But regardless, I've decided that tiebreakers will be new submissions, but single songs (like a traditional roulette) so I can cover them off quickly and move onto the next round.

This is a nice convenient way of getting more music!   

Does it have to be from the same band?

Not that I have to worry about this ( ) ... but would hope not.  If I was in the bottom three, Darwin's Radio only has one other album.  It's got a couple of decent ones, but nothing I'd want to use in a do-or-die tiebreaker.

But like I said, thankfully I don't need to worry about this.   

In my opinion, there is virtually ZERO relationship between 'length of song' and 'whether I like it'.   The only time it has ever even reared it's head is in "Tonight, Tonight" by Ozzy, and that's only because some dipshit faded out Randy's solo just as he was hitting fifth gear.  A crime against humanity if you're asking me.

[Crow]

I find 7-10 minutes a good range because it allows songs to develop and build up without starting to feel too bloated but still have enough complexity to be satisfying

[Nekov]

 

[ariich]

Most write-ups are done, when I get home from work (in a couple of hours or so) I'll finish up the last couple and get the results posted.

I'm enjoying the varied levels of confidence in people's comments on the tiebreaker...

[lonestar]

[Nekov]

  I'd love to say I'm confident about this one but that Kermit is more accurate

[Crow]

If I don't get a chance to send you the album I'm currently listening to right now I'll be upset