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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2017, 12:27:27 PM »
Recent tweets from the Sheriff of Polk County, Fl.

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If you go to a shelter for #Irma, be advised: sworn LEOs will be at every shelter, checking IDs. Sex offenders/predators will not be allowed

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If you go to a shelter for #Irma and you have a warrant, we'll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail

I'd say it goes without saying that illegal immigrants will be included in that. Real nice guy. This will be wildly popular amongst the tough on crime folk, but it's a pretty genuine dick move from a real asshole. The reality is that a lot of folk will be afraid to go to safety and opt to take their chances. A lot of folk who don't deserve to be written off, but whom Sheriff Grady would just as soon see drown if it means scoring points with the voters.

That IS bullshit. And if I'm one of the First Responders that has to wade into 180 mph winds and 15 feet of swell to save a guy that has is on the registry because he was 23 and his girlfriend was 16 and Daddy had a bug up his ass about it, I'm going going to be pretty damn pissed off.

I'm confused. You'd be pissed off that you had to save him, or pissed that you saved him just for him to go to jail?

Pissed off that he had to save him. This is a point that the ACLU made in its comment on the matter, that first responders would be put at risk because of this jackass. He's essentially encouraging less-desirables to STFA from safe places, insuring that some of them will need to be rescued later.
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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2017, 12:31:55 PM »
Ohhhhh I get it. Pissed off that he had to save him BECAUSE he shouldn't have been in danger in the first place.
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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2017, 12:38:48 PM »
Recent tweets from the Sheriff of Polk County, Fl.

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If you go to a shelter for #Irma, be advised: sworn LEOs will be at every shelter, checking IDs. Sex offenders/predators will not be allowed

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If you go to a shelter for #Irma and you have a warrant, we'll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail

I'd say it goes without saying that illegal immigrants will be included in that. Real nice guy. This will be wildly popular amongst the tough on crime folk, but it's a pretty genuine dick move from a real asshole. The reality is that a lot of folk will be afraid to go to safety and opt to take their chances. A lot of folk who don't deserve to be written off, but whom Sheriff Grady would just as soon see drown if it means scoring points with the voters.

Yea, lets take a natural disaster and turn it into catching the criminals who need shelter to survive.  Pretty low if you ask me.  However, if you have a warrant then I think you know you aren't going to be safe near cops.  Sex offenders, as much as I dont like them, if they are out free from doing their time, I don't think that should hold them back for seeking safety regardless of their past.
Personally, I would assume that in a crisis Johnny would have more important things to do than to run my license for unpaid tickets when I come to seek refuge (and I'd be right). Hell, they don't even bust people for that down here anymore because it's a pointless waist of time. However, if you can have them come to you, say, during a natural disaster, it's much easier to deal with them. However, I seriously doubt Sheriff Asshole is thinking along those lines. He doesn't want to bust them. He wants them to stay away.

As for sex offenders, that's an  interesting thing. It seems that Florida law actually prohibits them from entering shelters. While I still call this guy an asshole for making his intentions to enforce such a law known, my bigger issue is with the law itself. You prohibit them from free movement, and then bar them from safe places in a time of crisis? Even if we are to pretend that RSOs are the same as predators, why not just designate a different shelter? See above. Fuck'em.

And I'll throw this out there as I know you're a drinker, you ever taken a leak in public? Easy way to land on a SO registry. I try not to make blanket statements about not liking sex offenders, myself.
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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2017, 12:40:53 PM »
Exactly. 

Me?   I give a 24, 48, whatever is reasonable hour moratorium, until the storm effects dissipate, then at time zero say "you have one hour motherfucker and we're coming after you again.   Hope you enjoyed the hot soup." 

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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2017, 12:49:56 PM »
Recent tweets from the Sheriff of Polk County, Fl.

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If you go to a shelter for #Irma, be advised: sworn LEOs will be at every shelter, checking IDs. Sex offenders/predators will not be allowed

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If you go to a shelter for #Irma and you have a warrant, we'll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail

I'd say it goes without saying that illegal immigrants will be included in that. Real nice guy. This will be wildly popular amongst the tough on crime folk, but it's a pretty genuine dick move from a real asshole. The reality is that a lot of folk will be afraid to go to safety and opt to take their chances. A lot of folk who don't deserve to be written off, but whom Sheriff Grady would just as soon see drown if it means scoring points with the voters.

Yea, lets take a natural disaster and turn it into catching the criminals who need shelter to survive.  Pretty low if you ask me.  However, if you have a warrant then I think you know you aren't going to be safe near cops.  Sex offenders, as much as I dont like them, if they are out free from doing their time, I don't think that should hold them back for seeking safety regardless of their past.
Personally, I would assume that in a crisis Johnny would have more important things to do than to run my license for unpaid tickets when I come to seek refuge (and I'd be right). Hell, they don't even bust people for that down here anymore because it's a pointless waist of time. However, if you can have them come to you, say, during a natural disaster, it's much easier to deal with them. However, I seriously doubt Sheriff Asshole is thinking along those lines. He doesn't want to bust them. He wants them to stay away.

As for sex offenders, that's an  interesting thing. It seems that Florida law actually prohibits them from entering shelters. While I still call this guy an asshole for making his intentions to enforce such a law known, my bigger issue is with the law itself. You prohibit them from free movement, and then bar them from safe places in a time of crisis? Even if we are to pretend that RSOs are the same as predators, why not just designate a different shelter? See above. Fuck'em.

And I'll throw this out there as I know you're a drinker, you ever taken a leak in public? Easy way to land on a SO registry. I try not to make blanket statements about not liking sex offenders, myself.

Didn't realize that was an actual law, that's crazy.  I kind of believe, if you pay your debt to society, you should be on your merry way.  That just seems like a total dick move to even have such a law.  Knowing that, though, I don't think the Sheriff is wrong for saying that, he's doing his job in this case, but there should be some room for compassion. 

And yea, I pee in public all the time.  It's one of the best parts of being a male.

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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2017, 01:01:51 PM »
Recent tweets from the Sheriff of Polk County, Fl.

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If you go to a shelter for #Irma, be advised: sworn LEOs will be at every shelter, checking IDs. Sex offenders/predators will not be allowed

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If you go to a shelter for #Irma and you have a warrant, we'll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail

I'd say it goes without saying that illegal immigrants will be included in that. Real nice guy. This will be wildly popular amongst the tough on crime folk, but it's a pretty genuine dick move from a real asshole. The reality is that a lot of folk will be afraid to go to safety and opt to take their chances. A lot of folk who don't deserve to be written off, but whom Sheriff Grady would just as soon see drown if it means scoring points with the voters.

Yea, lets take a natural disaster and turn it into catching the criminals who need shelter to survive.  Pretty low if you ask me.  However, if you have a warrant then I think you know you aren't going to be safe near cops.  Sex offenders, as much as I dont like them, if they are out free from doing their time, I don't think that should hold them back for seeking safety regardless of their past.
Personally, I would assume that in a crisis Johnny would have more important things to do than to run my license for unpaid tickets when I come to seek refuge (and I'd be right). Hell, they don't even bust people for that down here anymore because it's a pointless waist of time. However, if you can have them come to you, say, during a natural disaster, it's much easier to deal with them. However, I seriously doubt Sheriff Asshole is thinking along those lines. He doesn't want to bust them. He wants them to stay away.

As for sex offenders, that's an  interesting thing. It seems that Florida law actually prohibits them from entering shelters. While I still call this guy an asshole for making his intentions to enforce such a law known, my bigger issue is with the law itself. You prohibit them from free movement, and then bar them from safe places in a time of crisis? Even if we are to pretend that RSOs are the same as predators, why not just designate a different shelter? See above. Fuck'em.

And I'll throw this out there as I know you're a drinker, you ever taken a leak in public? Easy way to land on a SO registry. I try not to make blanket statements about not liking sex offenders, myself.

Didn't realize that was an actual law, that's crazy.  I kind of believe, if you pay your debt to society, you should be on your merry way.  That just seems like a total dick move to even have such a law.  Knowing that, though, I don't think the Sheriff is wrong for saying that, he's doing his job in this case, but there should be some room for compassion. 

And yea, I pee in public all the time.  It's one of the best parts of being a male.
There are ways the sheriff could have done his job, if that's actually what his interest was. Here's one, "if you're a RSO, your shelter is the Sunset Ballroom at the Polk County Convention Center, along with ten cops and no children." Like I said, though, he doesn't want to help them. His interest is in casting them off to the Kraken.

And 12 states currently state that public urination requires sex offender registration. Indecent exposure falls under the sex crime category.
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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2017, 01:05:51 PM »
What's with all these wanna be celebrity tough guy sheriffs all of a sudden?

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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2017, 01:08:02 PM »
And 12 states currently state that public urination requires sex offender registration. Indecent exposure falls under the sex crime category.

Because god forbid that bald little bastard sees any daylight for any reason.   

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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2017, 01:10:57 PM »
And 12 states currently state that public urination requires sex offender registration. Indecent exposure falls under the sex crime category.

Because god forbid that bald little bastard sees any daylight for any reason.   

 :lol and just looked this up, none of the states I typically urinate on have this law (NY,NJ,PA). But I definitely need to be careful on my work trips to CA

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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2017, 01:11:55 PM »
And 12 states currently state that public urination requires sex offender registration. Indecent exposure falls under the sex crime category.

Because god forbid that bald little bastard sees any daylight for any reason.   

 :lol and just looked this up, none of the states I typically urinate on have this law (NY,NJ,PA). But I definitely need to be careful on my work trips to CA

HAHA, that got a full-on laugh out loud!

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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2017, 02:00:05 PM »
And 12 states currently state that public urination requires sex offender registration. Indecent exposure falls under the sex crime category.

Because god forbid that bald little bastard sees any daylight for any reason.   

 :lol and just looked this up, none of the states I typically urinate on have this law (NY,NJ,PA). But I definitely need to be careful on my work trips to CA
I believe all the states North of you qualify. Warnings go out to our CT residents.

And I whizzed all over the Champs de Mars a ways back. While the French aren't going to brand me for life over that, I figure they'd probably still have a problem with it. Suffice it to say I made it as quick as possible and walked pretty damned fast afterward. My French isn't good enough to sweet talk the gendarme.
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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2017, 02:01:34 PM »
And 12 states currently state that public urination requires sex offender registration. Indecent exposure falls under the sex crime category.

Because god forbid that bald little bastard sees any daylight for any reason.   

 :lol and just looked this up, none of the states I typically urinate on have this law (NY,NJ,PA). But I definitely need to be careful on my work trips to CA
I believe all the states North of you qualify. Warnings go out to our CT residents.

Guy three houses up from me had this happen. He lost his job flying 747s as a result.

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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2017, 02:11:35 PM »
And 12 states currently state that public urination requires sex offender registration. Indecent exposure falls under the sex crime category.

Because god forbid that bald little bastard sees any daylight for any reason.   

 :lol and just looked this up, none of the states I typically urinate on have this law (NY,NJ,PA). But I definitely need to be careful on my work trips to CA
I believe all the states North of you qualify. Warnings go out to our CT residents.

Guy three houses up from me had this happen. He lost his job flying 747s as a result.

I've never heard of altitude being measured in houses rather than feet, but that seems like an awfully low altitude to be flying anyway, let alone wizzing from a moving 747 while doing so.  No wonder he lost his job.
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Re: Houston... we have a problem.
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2017, 02:28:59 PM »
 :lol

And yup, all the states north of me (besides NY) have that law, I just don't travel further north normally which is why I left it out, although I love Boston and could see myself going up there more often in the future.