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List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« on: August 08, 2017, 11:43:17 AM »
Someone requested this in another thread so I thought I'd put this list together. Please let me know if there's any errors.


When Dream and Day Unite
A Fortune in Lies - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Status Seeker - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Ytse Jam - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Killing Hand - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Light Fuse and Get Away - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Afterlife - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Only a Matter of Time - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)


Images and Words
Pull Me Under - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Another Day - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Take the Time - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Surrounded - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Metropolis Pt.1 - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Under a Glass Moon - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Wait for Sleep - No Guitar

Learning to Live - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)


Awake
6:00 - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Caught in a Web -BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Innocence Faded - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Erotomania - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Voices - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Silent Man - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Mirror - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Lie - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Lifting Shadows Off a Dream - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Scarred - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Space-Dye Vest - DADGBE (Drop D, 6-string)


A Change of Seasons - BEADGBE (7-String)


Falling Into Infinity
New Millennium - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

You Not Me - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Peruvian Skies - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Hollow Years - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Burning My Soul - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Hell’s Kitchen - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Lines in the Sand - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Take Away My Pain - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Just Let Me Breathe - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Anna Lee - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Trial of Tears - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)


Cleaning Out the Closet
Don’t Look Past Me - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Cover My Eyes - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Eve - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Raise the Knife - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Speak to Me - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

To Live Forever - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Way It Used to Be - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Where Are You Now? - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)


Scenes From a Memory
Regression - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Overture 1928 - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Strange Déjà-Vu - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Through My Words - No Guitar

Fatal Tragedy - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Beyond This Life - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Through Her Eyes - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Home - DADGBE (Drop D, 6-string)

The Dance of Eternity - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

One Last Time - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Spirit Carries On - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Finally Free - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)


Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
The Glass Prison  - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Blind Faith - ADGCEA (A Standard, Baritone) and EADGBE (Regular 6 string during unison)

Misunderstood - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-string, Played DADGBE live)

The Great Debate - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Disappear - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Overture - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

About to Crash - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

War Inside My Head - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Test That Stumped Them All - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Goodnight Kiss - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Solitary Shell - EADGBE (E Standard, 12-String and 6-string)

About to Crash(Reprise) - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Losing Time/Grand Finale - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)


Train of Thought
As I Am - CFBbEbGC (C Standard, 6-string)

This Dying Soul  - BEADGBE (7-String)

Endless Sacrifice - DGCFAD (D Standard, 6-string)

Honor Thy Father CFBbEbGC (C Standard, 6-string)

Vacant - No Guitar

Stream of Consciousness - EbAbDbGbBbEb (Eb Standard, 6-string)

In The Name of God - CFBbEbGC (C Standard, 6-string)


Octavarium
The Root of All Evil - EbAbDbGbBbEb (Eb Standard, 6-string)

The Answer Lies Within - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

These Walls - ADGCEA (A Standard, Baritone)

I Walk Beside You - DGCFAD (D Standard, 6-string)

Panic Attack - BbEbAbDbFBb (Bb Standard, Baritone)

Never Enough - DGCFAD (D Standard, 6-string)

Sacrificed Sons - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Octavarium - EADGBE (E Standard, 12-String and 6-string)


Systematic Chaos
In the Presence of Enemies Pt.1 - EADGBE

Forsaken - DGCFAD (D Standard, 6-string)

Constant Motion - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Dark Eternal Night - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Repentance - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-string) and EADGBE (Standard, Acoustic 6-string)

Prophets of War - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Ministry of Lost Souls - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

In the Presence of Enemies Pt.2 - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)


Black Clouds and Silver Linings
A Nightmare to Remember - CFBbEbGC (C Standard, 6-string)

A Rite of Passage - DGCFAD (D Standard, 6-string)

Wither - BbEbAbDbFBb (Bb Standard, Baritone)

The Shattered Fortress - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

The Best of Times - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Count of Tuscany - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)


Raw Dog - ADGCFAD (7 String down a Whole step)


A Dramatic Turn of Events
On the Backs of Angels - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Build Me Up, Break Me Down - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Lost Not Forgotten - DGCFAD (D Standard, 6-string)

This Is the Life - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Bridges in the Sky - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Outcry - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Far From Heaven - No Guitar

Breaking All Illusions - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Beneath The Surface - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)


Dream Theater
False Awakening Suite - ADGCFAD (7 String down a Whole step, Low A tunes down to a G at the end)

The Enemy Inside - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

The Looking Glass - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Enigma Machine - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

The Bigger Picture - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Behind the Veil - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Surrender to Reason - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Along for the Ride - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Illumination Theory - ADGCFAD (7 String down a Whole step)


The Astonishing
Descent of The NOMACs - No Guitar

Dystopian Overture - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

The Gift of Music - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

The Answer - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

A Better Life - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Lord Nafaryus - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

A Savior in The Square - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

When Your Time Has Come - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Act of Faythe - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Three Days - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

The Hovering Sojourn - No Guitar

Brother, Can You Hear Me? - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

A Life Left Behind - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Ravenskill - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Chosen - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

A Tempting Offer - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Digital Discord - No Guitar

The X Aspect - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

A New Beginning - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Road To Revolution - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

2285 Entr'acte - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Moment of Betrayal - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Heaven's Cove - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Begin Again - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

The Path That Divides - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Machine Chatter - No Guitar

The Walking Shadow - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

My Last Farewell - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)

Losing Faythe - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Whispers on The Wind - No Guitar

Hymn of A Thousand Voices - EADGBE (E Standard, 6-string)

Our New World - DADGBE (Drop D, 6-string)

Power Down - No Guitar

Astonishing - BEADGBE (Standard, 7-String)
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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2017, 01:38:52 PM »
One thing I'm curious about is Misunderstood. There's footage of him in the studio recording it with a 7-string. The low notes in the riff in the solo section point to that, as well. Yet, live, he plays it in Drop D. It's interesting.

Also, The Great Debate is standard tuning. EADGBE :)

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Descent of The NOMACs - no guitar
Dystopian Overture - BEADGBE
The Gift of Music - BEADGBE
The Answer - EADGBE
A Better Life - EADGBE
Lord Nafaryus - EADGBE
A Savior in The Square - BEADGBE
When Your Time Has Come - BEADGBE
Act of Faythe - BEADGBE
Three Days - BEADGBE
The Hovering Sojourn - no guitar
Brother, Can You Hear Me? - BEADGBE
A Life Left Behind - EADGBE
Ravenskill - BEADGBE
Chosen - EADGBE
A Tempting Offer - BEADGBE
Digital Discord - No guitar
The X Aspect - EADGBE
A New Beginning - EADGBE
Road To Revolution - BEADGBE

2285 Entr'acte - BEADGBE
Moment of Betrayal - BEADGBE
Heaven's Cove - BEADGBE
Begin Again - EADGBE
The Path That Divides - BEADGBE
Machine Chatter - no guitar
The Walking Shadow - EADGBE
My Last Farewell - BEADGBE
Losing Faythe - EADGBE
Whispers on The Wind - no guitar
Hymn of A Thousand Voices - EADGBE
Our New World - DADGBE
Power Down - nada
Astonishing - BEADGBE
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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2017, 02:36:39 PM »
Very cool list.  I didn't know that War Inside My Head is in E flat, although the 6 Degrees tab book has it transcribed in standard tuning.

Also, Blind Faith uses both a silhouette bass and standard tuning.

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2017, 05:55:42 PM »
This is amazing! :hefdaddy
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2017, 06:04:02 PM »
Well done all!



Raw Dog - ADGCEA or ADGCFAD (Not sure, I know it's a low A though)



I believe JP said he did it in drop A with a seven, and not A standard on a seven. Song won't every get talked about anymore, as it's the black sheep of their catalog.



One thing I'm curious about is Misunderstood. There's footage of him in the studio recording it with a 7-string. The low notes in the riff in the solo section point to that, as well. Yet, live, he plays it in Drop D. It's interesting.



That is correct, he recorded with a seven but uses drop D on a 6 if I recall correctly.



Also, Blind Faith uses both a silhouette bass and standard tuning.



Yup, he used the Silhouette as a baritone guitar, before he had one made. And the unison (just the unison!) was recorded on a standard tuned six. So live he has to play that insane line an octave lower, which makes it even harder!

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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2017, 06:26:32 PM »

Also, Blind Faith uses both a silhouette bass and standard tuning.



Yup, he used the Silhouette as a baritone guitar, before he had one made. And the unison (just the unison!) was recorded on a standard tuned six. So live he has to play that insane line an octave lower, which makes it even harder!
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I believe JP originally played it live in standard tuning with a double-neck guitar, but the double neck kept breaking so he ditched it.  I was lucky to catch a show with the double neck during this time.

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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2017, 06:35:45 PM »
Wow, I saw the thread, but hadn't checked in on it until right now.  I had no idea that it was nearly complete.  Nice work! 

Metropolaris, if I could make one request, just to make it easier and faster a read, could you just make a few added annotations to indicate where tuning is standard by putting (standard) after it, and whether it is a  6 string, 7 string, or baritone?  I dunno, maybe guitarists wouldn't actually find it helpful, but I would think the quick reference would be helpful to some. 

So what I had in mind would look like this, for example:
-A Fortune in Lies - EADGBE (standard; 6 string)
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-The Mirror - BEADGBE (standard; 7 string)
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-Home - DADGBE (6 string)
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-These Walls - ADGCEA (standard; baritone)

Is that doable, or too much hassle?  Either way, great work!  :clap:
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2017, 08:09:38 PM »
Also, as a bassist, I would really appreciate it if someone did this, but with JM's bass tunings, since he also uses different tunings on some songs  :laugh:
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2017, 08:14:33 PM »
Also, as a bassist, I would really appreciate it if someone did this, but with JM's bass tunings, since he also uses different tunings on some songs  :laugh:

If someone wants to go through make a list I'll definitely add that to the OP.
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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2017, 08:14:41 PM »
Wow, I saw the thread, but hadn't checked in on it until right now.  I had no idea that it was nearly complete.  Nice work! 

Metropolaris, if I could make one request, just to make it easier and faster a read, could you just make a few added annotations to indicate where tuning is standard by putting (standard) after it, and whether it is a  6 string, 7 string, or baritone?  I dunno, maybe guitarists wouldn't actually find it helpful, but I would think the quick reference would be helpful to some. 

So what I had in mind would look like this, for example:
-A Fortune in Lies - EADGBE (standard; 6 string)
...
-The Mirror - BEADGBE (standard; 7 string)
...
-Home - DADGBE (6 string)
...
-These Walls - ADGCEA (standard; baritone)

Is that doable, or too much hassle?  Either way, great work!  :clap:

Or even something like (Drop D, 6 string) or (D standard, 6 string)
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2017, 08:34:45 PM »
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2017, 08:42:32 PM »

Also, Blind Faith uses both a silhouette bass and standard tuning.



Yup, he used the Silhouette as a baritone guitar, before he had one made. And the unison (just the unison!) was recorded on a standard tuned six. So live he has to play that insane line an octave lower, which makes it even harder!

I believe JP originally played it live in standard tuning with a double-neck guitar, but the double neck kept breaking so he ditched it.  I was lucky to catch a show with the double neck during this time.
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I saw them play BF on the CiM in tour, and he had the baritone. I just thought he used to double neck for parts of 6Doit and 8V, as it's normally standard tuned 6 and a 12 string. That thing was cool to see no doubt!
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2017, 09:17:31 PM »
Some quick points:

There is a 7 string guitar during the chorus of Misunderstood, but it's nothing you can't play on a six string in drop D. I suspect JP just preferred the sound of a fretted D power chord instead of an open one (a small but definite difference). Probably worth putting up there for reference.

Solitary Shell uses a 12 string guitar

Pretty sure Never Enough is in D standard, not Drop D. It's hard to tell for sure with some of the live videos but the Octavarium book has it in D standard and I'm pretty sure that is one of the books that JP signed off on.

Octavarium uses 12 string guitar in the first and last movements.

Repentance uses a 7 string electric and 6 string acoustic.

In addition to six string standard tuning, OTBOA and Beneath the Surface both have overdubbed acoustic guitars in "Nashville" tuning, this is when the four lowest strings are replaced with lighter gauges and tuned up an octave.

False Awakening Suite is a little complicated (obviously they weren't planning on playing it live so they could experiment a bit with the guitars). The bulk of the song is a 7 string dropped a whole step. At the very end of the song (2:28), the 7th string is tuned down from A to G. Probably an overdub using the same guitar, but the whole song isn't in that tuning.


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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2017, 09:33:38 PM »
Also, the first verse of Surrender to Reason (the "In moments of pain..." section) and the intro to Heaven's Cove were played on a 12 string acoustic guitar.

Maybe that's one of the reasons why we haven't seen STR played live before, because either JP does what he did on the TA tour and uses an acoustic on a stand behind him, or has to bring his double neck guitar on tour just for one song on the set (unless they decide to include Solitary Shell and/or Octavarium on the same set... and that would be amazing).
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2017, 09:40:01 PM »
I dunno, he could just play it on six string with an acoustic patch and it wouldn't really make that much of a difference. I think they just haven't gotten to it yet. They did a lot of DT12 on the tour while still making room for Awake and SFAM, they did a new song on the following tour, Astonishing tour was all Astonishing obviously, and this latest tour has yet another new DT12 song. I'm sure they'll get to Surrender To Reason on the next tour.
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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2017, 10:36:50 PM »
Also, as a bassist, I would really appreciate it if someone did this, but with JM's bass tunings, since he also uses different tunings on some songs  :laugh:

If someone wants to go through make a list I'll definitely add that to the OP.
I'll try to prepare that as well if I only had some day off.
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2017, 07:03:07 AM »
Also, as a bassist, I would really appreciate it if someone did this, but with JM's bass tunings, since he also uses different tunings on some songs  :laugh:

If someone wants to go through make a list I'll definitely add that to the OP.
I'll try to prepare that as well if I only had some day off.


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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2017, 09:52:42 AM »
WD&DU and I&W are both on a standard tuned 4-string, I believe.
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2017, 10:01:47 AM »
WD&DU and I&W are both on a standard tuned 4-string, I believe.

Take the Time has a low C#, though.
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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2017, 10:57:37 AM »
WD&DU and I&W are both on a standard tuned 4-string, I believe.

Take the Time has a low C#, though.

The bass goes to the low C#, but I think on the guitar part it's only implied with the lower 4th, and not the lower octave.
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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2017, 11:17:34 AM »
WD&DU and I&W are both on a standard tuned 4-string, I believe.

Take the Time has a low C#, though.

That's the only thing that got me. The commentary on Live in Tokyo, while they're watching the footage of recording I&W, JM is playing a 4-string and MP (on the commentary) goes "You recorded the whole album on a 4-string, right?" "Yep"
Maybe he used a 5 or 6-string on TTT and didn't remember.
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2017, 11:22:27 AM »
WD&DU and I&W are both on a standard tuned 4-string, I believe.

Take the Time has a low C#, though.

That's the only thing that got me. The commentary on Live in Tokyo, while they're watching the footage of recording I&W, JM is playing a 4-string and MP (on the commentary) goes "You recorded the whole album on a 4-string, right?" "Yep"
Maybe he used a 5 or 6-string on TTT and didn't remember.

And on the IAW tour he was already using a 6 string bass, so we really have no clue on that
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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2017, 11:51:04 AM »
WD&DU and I&W are both on a standard tuned 4-string, I believe.

Take the Time has a low C#, though.

That's the only thing that got me. The commentary on Live in Tokyo, while they're watching the footage of recording I&W, JM is playing a 4-string and MP (on the commentary) goes "You recorded the whole album on a 4-string, right?" "Yep"
Maybe he used a 5 or 6-string on TTT and didn't remember.

Detuning for some notes on a 4 string is not out of the realm of reason. I drop D my four string a fair amount with no issues, so one half-step lower note wouldn't be a big deal.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2017, 01:40:02 AM »
I'm not sure if this was mentioned on the commentary, but couldn't he have gotten a set of strings for a 5-string, and just put the lowest 4 on his 4-string bass?
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2017, 04:22:25 AM »
Forgive my musical ignorance, but I'm curious to know. What those letters mean? I have a veeeeeery basic knowledge of piano - I know which notes are which and I could play Beethoven's Hymn to Joy, and that's basically it - what those sequences "EADGBE" mean in terms of playing it on a guitar?
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2017, 04:35:36 AM »
Forgive my musical ignorance, but I'm curious to know. What those letters mean? I have a veeeeeery basic knowledge of piano - I know which notes are which and I could play Beethoven's Hymn to Joy, and that's basically it - what those sequences "EADGBE" mean in terms of playing it on a guitar?

That's the open tuning of each string (ie. playing the string without pressing down any note) from low to high / top to bottom string.

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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2017, 06:05:18 AM »
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2017, 06:57:46 AM »
I'm not sure if this was mentioned on the commentary, but couldn't he have gotten a set of strings for a 5-string, and just put the lowest 4 on his 4-string bass?
Possibly. But I would think using such a heavy string gauge on a 4 string would screw up the neck. I think it's more likely he just tuned down or used a 5/6 string bass
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2017, 11:00:20 AM »
I'm not sure if this was mentioned on the commentary, but couldn't he have gotten a set of strings for a 5-string, and just put the lowest 4 on his 4-string bass?
Possibly. But I would think using such a heavy string gauge on a 4 string would screw up the neck. I think it's more likely he just tuned down or used a 5/6 string bass

Indeed.
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2017, 11:19:53 AM »
WD&DU and I&W are both on a standard tuned 4-string, I believe.

Take the Time has a low C#, though.

That's the only thing that got me. The commentary on Live in Tokyo, while they're watching the footage of recording I&W, JM is playing a 4-string and MP (on the commentary) goes "You recorded the whole album on a 4-string, right?" "Yep"
Maybe he used a 5 or 6-string on TTT and didn't remember.

Detuning for some notes on a 4 string is not out of the realm of reason. I drop D my four string a fair amount with no issues, so one half-step lower note wouldn't be a big deal.

He also drops the E down to D for one note in Learning to Live.
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Re: List of Dream Theater Songs and Their Tunings
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2017, 11:21:19 PM »
WD&DU and I&W are both on a standard tuned 4-string, I believe.

Take the Time has a low C#, though.
I believe that Another Day also has a low C#, it would be IMO 4th bass note counting from the start where the bass comes in ;) and of course it's coming back in the same theme during the song ;) I'm not sure about it but I definitly do not hear high C# from JM there. Anyway I used to play that song for years now and with usage of the B low string in 6 string bass, it gives some very deep feel to it.
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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2017, 01:54:39 PM »
I'm pretty sure I Walk Beside You was in Standart D, and War Inside My Head in Standart E.

Myung's tunings are as follows:

- Standart 6 strings bass tuning in B : B E A D G C (practically for the entire DT catalog, except the noted bellow)
- Standart 6 strings bass tuning in Bb: Bb Eb Ab Db Gb Cb(or B) (for The Root of All Evil)
- Standart 6 strings bass tuning in A: A D G C F D (for Panick Attack, These Walls, Raw Dog, FAS and Illumination Theory)
- D E A D G C (for Endless Sacrifice and A Rite of Passage)
- C E A D G C (for As I Am, Honor Thy Father and In The Name of God)

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« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2017, 03:45:10 PM »
I'm pretty sure I Walk Beside You was in Standart D, and War Inside My Head in Standart E.

Myung's tunings are as follows:

- Standart 6 strings bass tuning in B : B E A D G C (practically for the entire DT catalog, except the noted bellow)
- Standart 6 strings bass tuning in Bb: Bb Eb Ab Db Gb Cb(or B) (for The Root of All Evil)
- Standart 6 strings bass tuning in A: A D G C F D (for Panick Attack, These Walls, Raw Dog, FAS and Illumination Theory)
- D E A D G C (for Endless Sacrifice and A Rite of Passage)
- C E A D G C (for As I Am, Honor Thy Father and In The Name of God)

Actually, the tuning for Panic Attack is Bb E A D G C with the D string tuned down to C for the bass intro. Also, for These Walls and Raw Dog, only the B string is lowered to A. The rest of the bass is in E standard.
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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2017, 04:48:34 PM »
I Walk Beside You is in standard D.
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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2017, 09:33:00 AM »
I Walk Beside You is in standard D.

I was sure it was E standard. You sure it's not drop-D or just one of the backing guitars or something?
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