Ayreon Survivor — The Human Equation — Round 19 (Final Round)

[Evermind]

The Human Equation (2004)

Round 18 Results:

Day Two: Isolation - 6 (40%)
Day Three: Pain - 5 (33,3%)
Day Twelve: Trauma - 4 (26,7%)

The number of people who predicted Day Two: Isolation would finish in the Top 3: 11

The number of people who predicted both the Top 2 songs right: 1

Eliminated:

1.
2.
3. Day Two: Isolation
4. Day Twenty: Confrontation
5. Day Eleven: Love
6. Day Sixteen: Loser
7. Day Eight: School
8. Day Eighteen: Realization
9. Day Four: Mystery
10. Day Fifteen: Betrayal
11. Day Six: Childhood
12. Day Nineteen: Disclosure
13. Day Fourteen: Pride
14. Day Seventeen: Accident?
15. Day Ten: Memories
16. Day Five: Voices
17. Day Seven: Hope
18. Day Thirteen: Sign
19. Day One: Vigil
20. Day Nine: Playground


Day Two: Isolation is eliminated, and we're now in our Final Round! Only one person managed to get the Top 2 right, let's see if he manages to nail the order here!

The deadline for this round is 48 hours.

[Evermind]

Pain ffs

[Crow]

Can't believe a song that isn't top 3 on the album is gonna win

That holds true regardless of the outcome of this round tbh

[jakepriest]

Can't believe a song that isn't top 3 on the album is gonna win

That holds true regardless of the outcome of this round tbh

That's been clear since last round bro.

Pain

[Scorpion]

Trauma ffs.

[Kwyjibo]

You worthless fool

[home]

Trauma.

Either my favourite song of the album wins this survivor or I got it on the right spot for the prediction contest, so I win either way 

[Crow]

never would've guessed pain is this loved lol

ending up with a whole 2 points even though I was looking great until the top 4 rip

[MirrorMask]

I vote Pain just because I was keeping on to vote it, but I don't really care for these two songs. Isolation should have won!

[Crow]

Betrayal should've won 
Not that I'd expect that to ever happen unfortunately

[Elite]

The number of people who predicted Day Two: Isolation would finish in the Top 3: 11

Almost

The number of people who predicted both the Top 2 songs right: 1

That's not a lot!

[jingle.boy]

Pain

[Crow]

Guilt Machine when 

[Elite]

Out of these two songs, this is the wrong outcome.

[Crow]

Nah

My predictions are wrecked either way since my top 2 were isolation and confrontation but this is a slightly better result than we could've had

[Scorpion]

Out of these two songs, this is the wrong outcome.

Yes.

[jakepriest]

Trauma is much better than Pain lol

[MirrorMask]

Trauma is much better than Pain lol

But they're both inferior to the last three songs eliminated 

Uh well. Happy for the only one that got it right.

[Crow]

Last two songs yeah but Love is not actually that great imo, I'd put it behind school, betrayal, and realization at the very least aside from everything in the top 4

Also I realized. The two songs that most prominently feature akerfeldt are the top 2 here, haha
Maybe scar is rigging the polls

[jakepriest]

Voices is a big Akerfeldt song too. I wish it made top 5 atleast. No idea what happened there DTF.

[Crow]

It's definitely not a song akerfeldt totally owns like these two though

Voices should've definitely been higher than it was though I agree

[Elite]

Also I realized. The two songs that most prominently feature akerfeldt are the top 2 here, haha
Maybe scar is rigging the polls

Åkerfeldt isn't even on Pain..

Trauma is much better than Pain lol

Uh well. Happy for the only one that got it right.

That only applies if this person actually got the right order as well.

[Crow]

Is he not I can never remember who does what

[Train of Naught]

Scar, if you ever loved me, please vote for Trauma within the next 6 hours The only song I correctly predicted in the top 3 is in the wrong spot anyway, I just want the mediocre song to not win

[jingle.boy]

Scar, if you ever loved me, please vote for Trauma within the next 6 hours The only song I correctly predicted in the top 3 is in the wrong spot anyway, I just want the mediocre song to not win

So, you're saying it's ok when Scar tampers with Survivors when it's in your favour, but totally unfair and worthy of a re-count when it's not in your favour.

Dude, you need something more interesting in your life than DTF Survivors!

[jakepriest]

chill?

[Train of Naught]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A

[jingle.boy]

I am chill, and I ain't mad.  My tone was just to be the same as ToN's... if he was being sarcastic, then so was I.  If he was being serious, then so was I.

[Train of Naught]

That's my bad, it's kind of hard behind a computer screen from now on, you can just assume that I'm rarely serious, even less so in the Survivor subforum. I think my DTF persona can be seen as a less serious version of myself

[jingle.boy]

That's my bad, it's kind of hard behind a computer screen from now on, you can just assume that I'm rarely serious, even less so in the Survivor subforum. I think my DTF persona can be seen as a less serious version of myself

I was trying to be tongue-in-cheek too, but apparently didn't come across that way. No worries... it's all good. 

[Elite]

The number of people who predicted both the Top 2 songs right: 1

Trauma is much better than Pain lol

Uh well. Happy for the only one that got it right.

That only applies if this person actually got the right order as well.

Shit.

[Evermind]

I'll count the points for both Survivors tomorrow. We'll start Guilt Machine on Monday.

[Elite]

Is it really fair though? I'm going from 8 points to only 2, just because I have them switched around

[jingle.boy]

Is it really fair though? I'm going from 8 points to only 2, just because I have them switched around

I know right.  It would make sense for there to be some bonus points for picking the top 3 as well as the top 2.  Like, 3 bonus for the top 2, and 5 bonus for the top 3 (regardless of order).  Someone who only predicts the #1 song gets more points than the person who predicts the top 2 or 3 out of order.

But, it ain't my contest. 

[Evermind]

I remember I addressed the same concern once or twice before, which means the system's balance is probably flawed, but hey, I didn't have a chance to test it before starting this. On the other hand, I do think that guessing the winner of the album Survivor is pretty important, which is why it awards a lot of points.

Is it really fair though? I'm going from 8 points to only 2, just because I have them switched around

I know right.  It would make sense for there to be some bonus points for picking the top 3 as well as the top 2.  Like, 3 bonus for the top 2, and 5 bonus for the top 3 (regardless of order).  Someone who only predicts the #1 song gets more points than the person who predicts the top 2 or 3 out of order.

That's a good idea. I considered that when I was designing it, but then I ended up not implementing it for some reason (I honestly don't remember why now). Perhaps that should've been included.

That being said, I'm obviously not going to change the rules in the middle of the contest. And remember it's all just for a good fun. I mean, yeah, there's a prize on the line and all that, but it's all for fun first and foremost. However, I'm not defending the scoring system, and I probably could've come up with something better.