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« Reply #175 on: August 23, 2017, 02:14:19 PM »
Bucks are ridiculously dangerous. I know from past discussions (now that I think about it) that Monroe is thought to be better off the bench, but I like him as a starter. If that bench develops, and the Greek Freak continues to ascend, Milwaukee is going to shock a lot of people who haven't been paying attention. I fully expect them to go deep in the playoffs this year if they are healthy.

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« Reply #176 on: August 23, 2017, 06:31:50 PM »
Jae Crowder's mom passed away yesterday from cancer.  I can only imagine what he's going through right now.
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« Reply #177 on: August 23, 2017, 06:35:16 PM »
Jae Crowder's mom passed away yesterday from cancer.  I can only imagine what he's going through right now.

Oh shit!

I freaking love Jae Crowder.

So between my kids and I, we all have jerseys of guys no longer here. My kids have Thomas and Bradley, and I have a Crowder shirt. :facepalm:
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« Reply #178 on: August 23, 2017, 08:24:34 PM »
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« Reply #179 on: August 23, 2017, 08:33:12 PM »
This off season has been ridiculous. On what planet does a #1 Seed * get blown up?


Truth is, that roster was maxed out. I think they were willing to go max with Isaiah even though the end of his next contract could be ugly. Kyrie kind of fell in their laps, so it's really a no brainer at that point.

The Celts team had become beloved in this town because they were selfless and overachieving. And Isaiah became an iconic sports figure in this city. His season was one to behold. he was breathtaking. Especially through the playoffs. He made plays that were amazing, and he put that team on his back. I feel bad for him, because he truly seemed to love it here. And the town loved him.

Because of Lebron, the Cavs have to be the team to beat, but this move is for the next 3-f years.



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Re: NBA thread 2017-18 v. I dub thee champions
« Reply #180 on: August 24, 2017, 08:39:27 AM »
Lebron is gone after this year in Cleveland. There is no way he stays. He hates Dan Gilbert, won a title in Cleveland, and wants to assemble some sort of super team. And I know it is a long shot, but I have a feeling it is going to happen. The question is...where?

I look at the Lakers, and that...it makes sense and it doesn't. Personally, I think both PG 13 and Westbrook are headed to the Lakers as a combo next year. I think Westbrook can opt-out, and PG 13 is a FA. Imagine those two teaming up with Ball and Ingram. So I can't see a Lebron-led "super team" happening there.

The next place that comes to mind is...strangely, Miami. With Bosh off the books, and Wade needing to reconcile with Riley, and some other roster flexibility, imagine James being able to bring himself, Wade, CP3 and Carmelo to Miami for a run. Wade will at best, a sixth man at that point, which will suit him and his balky knees. Lebron will still be a 20-8-8 guy, CP3 still a legit 15-10, and Carmelo will be an 18 ppg guy. And Whiteside plays center. It would be Miami v. Boston for a couple of years.

Plus, while all those guys would need to play on cheaper contracts -- there's no state income tax in Florida, so they do save quite a bit. If they all took say...15 million, you'd have 60 million wrapped up in them, 20 million in Whiteside, and then fill out the rest of the roster. It's totally doable if my memory is right on Miami's expiring deals.

From a storytelling and legacy side, it repairs Wade's connection with the Heat and Riley, it also heals the wounds of Lebron leaving them, gives CP3 and Carmelo the best shot of getting to the NBA finals, and lets Whiteside take on more of a role as he is ready (he is very young even though he's been in the league a few years now).

But even if it is NOT Miami, I just know that some how, some way, Lebron, Wade, Carmelo and CP3 are going to play together. And it isn't going to be in Cleveland.
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« Reply #181 on: August 24, 2017, 09:04:51 AM »
Lebron is gone after this year in Cleveland. There is no way he stays. He hates Dan Gilbert, won a title in Cleveland, and wants to assemble some sort of super team. And I know it is a long shot, but I have a feeling it is going to happen. The question is...where?

I look at the Lakers, and that...it makes sense and it doesn't. Personally, I think both PG 13 and Westbrook are headed to the Lakers as a combo next year. I think Westbrook can opt-out, and PG 13 is a FA. Imagine those two teaming up with Ball and Ingram. So I can't see a Lebron-led "super team" happening there.

The next place that comes to mind is...strangely, Miami. With Bosh off the books, and Wade needing to reconcile with Riley, and some other roster flexibility, imagine James being able to bring himself, Wade, CP3 and Carmelo to Miami for a run. Wade will at best, a sixth man at that point, which will suit him and his balky knees. Lebron will still be a 20-8-8 guy, CP3 still a legit 15-10, and Carmelo will be an 18 ppg guy. And Whiteside plays center. It would be Miami v. Boston for a couple of years.

Plus, while all those guys would need to play on cheaper contracts -- there's no state income tax in Florida, so they do save quite a bit. If they all took say...15 million, you'd have 60 million wrapped up in them, 20 million in Whiteside, and then fill out the rest of the roster. It's totally doable if my memory is right on Miami's expiring deals.

From a storytelling and legacy side, it repairs Wade's connection with the Heat and Riley, it also heals the wounds of Lebron leaving them, gives CP3 and Carmelo the best shot of getting to the NBA finals, and lets Whiteside take on more of a role as he is ready (he is very young even though he's been in the league a few years now).

But even if it is NOT Miami, I just know that some how, some way, Lebron, Wade, Carmelo and CP3 are going to play together. And it isn't going to be in Cleveland.

If I were LBJ, and if the Lakers scenario doesn't work out, I would actually look at the 76ers instead of Miami instead. The 76ers are in the east, plus they have a TON of talented young players to surround himself that, the Heat can't offer LBJ. Imagine the 76ers with LBJ on the roster. That team suddenly becomes a contender overnight!
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Re: NBA thread 2017-18 v. I dub thee champions
« Reply #182 on: August 24, 2017, 10:19:12 AM »
If I were LBJ, and if the Lakers scenario doesn't work out, I would actually look at the 76ers instead of Miami instead. The 76ers are in the east, plus they have a TON of talented young players to surround himself that, the Heat can't offer LBJ. Imagine the 76ers with LBJ on the roster. That team suddenly becomes a contender overnight!

Well, I playoff contender, yes.  But I don't think they'd be a legitimate championship contender.  At least, not without adding another couple of pieces in addition to LeBron.  76ers+LBJ still isn't enough to beat the top 3 teams in the west, IMO. 

But as far as this coming year, the Cavs suddenly look scary again.  Despite losing Kyrie, I think they are the absolute winners in this trade in the short run.   I think Boston wins that trade in the long run because I think they can consistently contend with what they are building around.  But for this season coming up, I think the Cavs are going to be REALLY tough to beat.  If Thomas can stay healthy, I think he will really thrive with having things opened up for him by LeBron and Love.  Barring injury, I will be shocked to not see Cleveland make it at least to the East Finals this year.
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Re: NBA thread 2017-18 v. I dub thee champions
« Reply #183 on: August 24, 2017, 06:29:52 PM »
Barring injury, I will be shocked to not see Cleveland make it at least to the East Finals this year.

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« Reply #184 on: August 24, 2017, 06:47:17 PM »
What will be most interesting is if the Cavs decide to try and flip that Brooklyn pick at the trade deadline for, say, Paul George. If you're OKC, you know George is leaving anyway. Unless you're on pace for an incredible like 60 win season, that Brooklyn pick is certainly better long-term than one year of PG13. Who knows? Maybe there's some other disgruntled superstar, like a Boogie Cousins. I think the Cavs just might throw everything in one more time to make a real run, especially if LeBron seems like he might be leaving. I think adding a Paul George level wing defender is the only way they have a shot at Golden State.

On the other hand, if it seems LeBron might be out the door, maybe you're keeping the pick to jump-start the rebuild.

Interesting question: say you knew ahead of time that trading for PG would win you the title but also that both he and Lebron were leaving after the season. Do you take the title but have no pieces for the rebuild? Or do you keep the pick and hope you just get REALLY lucky against the Dubs?

I would take the title, but I could see the other side of the argument as well. Of course, in real life they have no way of knowing if such a gamble would pay off...

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« Reply #185 on: August 24, 2017, 06:53:20 PM »
But as far as this coming year, the Cavs suddenly look scary again.  Despite losing Kyrie, I think they are the absolute winners in this trade in the short run.   I think Boston wins that trade in the long run because I think they can consistently contend with what they are building around.  But for this season coming up, I think the Cavs are going to be REALLY tough to beat.  If Thomas can stay healthy, I think he will really thrive with having things opened up for him by LeBron and Love.  Barring injury, I will be shocked to not see Cleveland make it at least to the East Finals this year.

Most people here feel the same way.
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« Reply #186 on: August 24, 2017, 07:08:47 PM »
Barring injury, I will be shocked to not see Cleveland make it at least to the East Finals this year.

Way to go out on a limb there Bosky! :lol

:lol  Well, I wasn't trying to say anything profound.  I know it's fairly obvious.  I'm just commenting on how they are right back in position as the East favorites with a VERY late move when it looked like the team was imploding and might be on the ropes a few weeks ago.
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Re: NBA thread 2017-18 v. I dub thee champions
« Reply #187 on: August 25, 2017, 08:52:19 AM »
Barring injury, I will be shocked to not see Cleveland make it at least to the East Finals this year.

Way to go out on a limb there Bosky! :lol

:lol  Well, I wasn't trying to say anything profound.  I know it's fairly obvious.  I'm just commenting on how they are right back in position as the East favorites with a VERY late move when it looked like the team was imploding and might be on the ropes a few weeks ago.

Yea, you're totally right. Just giving you a hard time. I hope that they're challenged by the Celtics or anyone else in the East this year. Their series against my Raptors a couple of years ago wasn't as competitive as it felt and their series against Boston last year was an absolute joke. I'm ready for something more tightly contested.
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« Reply #188 on: August 25, 2017, 09:29:22 PM »
Not so fast Boston... Cavs weighing options after evaluating Isaiah Thomas' hip following his physical

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