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Re: The Orville (Star Trek parody) looks better than the new Star Trek.
« Reply #245 on: December 08, 2017, 01:14:30 AM »
OK episode.  But not much of a finale was it?

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Re: The Orville (Star Trek parody) looks better than the new Star Trek.
« Reply #246 on: December 08, 2017, 03:35:32 AM »
It's an episodic show, and MacFarlane said a while ago this season wouldn't have a cliffhanger or anything like that, so I wasn't expecting anything particularly different. Also, 13 episodes were made for this season, but only 12 were shown, because the last one would have been delayed because of Christmas etc, so it's been held back to air with next season. I don't know whether the episode that got held back was the 12th episode, or what was supposed to air as the last episode, so that may or may not have made a difference.

Very good episode btw. Definitely reminded me of Voyager - Blink of an Eye with the time acceleration and becoming part of the planet's belief system. Always an interesting story telling device. I think they covered the religious angle enough in other episodes to not need to do it here, but it was still fine here too, and left a more positive note.
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Hopefully this means they're done with the romantic angle with the captain now. I understand wanting to include some drama for a more general audience, but it's run its course now, and the show doesn't need it. Also, I think they've managed to find the right balance of comedy/scifi now. I'm really looking forward to next season, and hope they get a decent run.
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« Reply #247 on: December 11, 2017, 08:36:35 AM »
I thought the premise for the final show was excellent. They took two existing ideas and merged them into something that, honestly, any of the original ST series should have figured out. You had the contamination of First Contact (episode) played out over the time scale of Blink of and Eye. While I could have lived without the whole Ed and Grayson thing, it wasn't awful and the other character's bits were pretty good. I really liked Ed hanging out with the Bortus household.
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Re: The Orville (Star Trek parody) looks better than the new Star Trek.
« Reply #248 on: December 11, 2017, 10:03:43 PM »
Ensign Turco was hot.

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Re: The Orville (Star Trek parody) looks better than the new Star Trek.
« Reply #249 on: December 31, 2017, 02:45:56 PM »
Hell yeah, she was!

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Re: The Orville (Star Trek parody) looks better than the new Star Trek.
« Reply #250 on: December 31, 2017, 02:46:04 PM »
Tell me more, Orbert!

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« Reply #251 on: December 31, 2017, 02:46:14 PM »
I don't know any more.  I just know that she was hot.

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Re: The Orville (Star Trek parody) looks better than the new Star Trek.
« Reply #252 on: December 31, 2017, 02:48:45 PM »
Oh, okay.

In that case, here's a very bad Star Trek fan film that Seth McFarlane and his friends made a long time ago:




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« Reply #253 on: December 31, 2017, 03:29:01 PM »
He does a pretty good Kirk.
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« Reply #254 on: December 31, 2017, 03:37:25 PM »
Seth has said that The Orville is the show he's always wanted to make.  This fits perfectly.  He's always wanted to be Kirk, or if not Kirk, then the captain of a starship somewhere, sometime.  Now he's doing exactly that.  Hold on to your dreams, kids!  They can come true!

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« Reply #255 on: February 14, 2018, 08:42:54 AM »
Bump because I just finished watching it last night...for the second time. I seriously canít get enough of this show, itís just what Star Trek should be.
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« Reply #256 on: February 15, 2018, 05:24:05 AM »
Such an odd show for me.  I'd probably say I mildly enjoyed it overall - but there is massive room for improvement.
I started off absolutely hating it - the first two episodes are all over the place tone wise, a really scattershot approach where barely anything hits.  The stories and world felt derivative, the comedy wasn't to my taste at all and the action is laughably bad.  By the end of the second episode which ended with aliens watching earth reality TV --- I didn't want to watch anymore of this shite, and gave up.

I came back to it after hearing it have been improving - bulk watched the next 5 episodes to catch up, and yeah there were still major faults but I started to like aspects of the show more.  I think the season peaked around the middle, then unfortuantly fell back into some of the more annoying traits again at the end.

I have read the Seth is going to include much less comedy for the next season, which to me it very welcome.

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« Reply #257 on: February 15, 2018, 08:35:27 AM »
I have read the Seth is going to include much less comedy for the next season, which to me it very welcome.
Indeed. It's much better at sci-fi than it is at comedy. And there's actually room for both. You can do comedy episodes as every other ST has shown (not sure about ENT, actually). You can also keep the entire series on a light-hearted tone without the need for constant jokes that hit or miss. You can also do the occasional "dark as fuck" episode, which he's clearly not opposed to, either.

One thing that did surprise me is that he's got no problem at all being much darker than Trek in general. People being beaten to death by angry mobs. Women being tortured. Severed heads being mutilated. Crucifixions. DS9 was pretty violent but didn't have the same feel that some of his scenes did. Dude's got all of the components on hand to do some very good stuff. He just needs to learn how to better incorporate them.
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« Reply #258 on: February 15, 2018, 09:31:43 AM »
I have read the Seth is going to include much less comedy for the next season, which to me it very welcome.
Indeed. It's much better at sci-fi than it is at comedy. And there's actually room for both. You can do comedy episodes as every other ST has shown (not sure about ENT, actually). You can also keep the entire series on a light-hearted tone without the need for constant jokes that hit or miss. You can also do the occasional "dark as fuck" episode, which he's clearly not opposed to, either.

One thing that did surprise me is that he's got no problem at all being much darker than Trek in general. People being beaten to death by angry mobs. Women being tortured. Severed heads being mutilated. Crucifixions. DS9 was pretty violent but didn't have the same feel that some of his scenes did. Dude's got all of the components on hand to do some very good stuff. He just needs to learn how to better incorporate them.

I don't mind a bit of lighthearted character dialog lines - such as Worf being frustrated, Data misunderstanding etc.  But personally I don't really like comedy story lines or bland situation comedy like the Ed and Kelly setup.  Star Trek is generally crap when a episode goes full on comedy (or the rather strange habit of using Irish stereotypes)

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« Reply #259 on: February 15, 2018, 09:10:56 PM »
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« Reply #260 on: February 16, 2018, 06:35:48 AM »
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« Reply #261 on: February 23, 2018, 02:25:20 PM »
A thing I wrote about why critics seemed to hate this show but audiences loved it: https://thenerdymillennialblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/23/whats-up-with-the-orville/
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