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« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2017, 06:56:52 PM »
But JLB's strengths are soft ballads now, listen to live performances :)

Honestly though. Wait For Sleep made me legit cry this tour and I don't cry easily

That's not to say I don't want a heavy album. I do love TOT and would be interested in a "sequel"

But even on Train of Thought, James' best performance was on Vacant.
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« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2017, 08:56:54 PM »
But JLB's strengths are soft ballads now, listen to live performances :)

Honestly though. Wait For Sleep made me legit cry this tour and I don't cry easily

That's not to say I don't want a heavy album. I do love TOT and would be interested in a "sequel"

But even on Train of Thought, James' best performance was on Vacant.

I actually think TOT is his worst studio vocal performance. But by SC I think he had figured out how to sing that sort of material. Not that I expect such a thing, but it would be awesome to hear an album with a lot of vocals like those on the BCSL Stargazer cover. I think he's got some of that left in him.
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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2017, 08:40:56 AM »
Jeez, I really hope they don't try to do another ToT. :lol   DT probably isn't going back to being super experimental (ala the days of SFAM and 6DOIT) but it would be nice to see them try some new things. I feel like the last handful of albums haven't really pushed any boundaries musically.

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« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2017, 05:32:28 AM »
You mean something like Awake?  ;)

Yep... but just not re-making it  :lol

I concur.

Heavy is fine, but I hope this is a friendlier album for JLB.

I concur. They can't keep accelerating his waning vocal strength. This I & W tour is probably exceedingly stressful (vocal-wise) for him.

Adapting the songs to his darker voice at the second leg of the tour helped a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaw_9rel1nA

If they write melody lines that really fit his voice for the next album there won't be problems with JLBs vocal strength imo.


I'm watching that now. I like the adjustments he made on the song. Instead of trying to go higher, and have it sound dreadfully flat, he lowered those parts. If he could get the melody more in key for that, it would sound great.

I'm hoping for something with the heaviness and darkness of Awake. The mood on that album makes it something unique from anything else they've ever done except maybe Train of Thought.

The mood on Awake makes it unique and still sounds amazing! I think one of the main reasons was Kevin's more atmospheric/dark approach to keyboards on that album.


I don't think they could ever duplicate that.

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« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2017, 08:40:43 AM »
I know it's ludicrous and heresy, but I would love a one-song collaboration with KM.
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« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2017, 09:13:30 AM »
I know it's ludicrous and heresy, but I would love a one-song collaboration with KM.

I would love to see that too! Maybe not a full song co-writing, but at least he could write lyrics for a song, like he did for the previous Fates Warning album. Any kind of KM collab. would be fine  :biggrin:
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2017, 09:25:49 AM »
Maybe Space-Dye-Jeans. Then socks. A KM EP dedicated to all parts of the wardrobe :)
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« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2017, 09:30:52 AM »
I know it's ludicrous and heresy, but I would love a one-song collaboration with KM.
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Nah it would be cool to see something like that. I actually love the idea of having a handful of collaborations with ex-members like Portnoy, Sherinian. Probably mainly just those three actually... :lol

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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2017, 09:35:09 AM »
That would be cool, there is just probably no chance it happens.

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« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2017, 11:39:40 AM »
I know i'm not alone in not wanting MP anywhere near DT for the remainder of their career.


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« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2017, 11:47:18 AM »
I know i'm not alone in not wanting MP anywhere near DT for the remainder of their career.

Definitely not. I am so tired of the MM vs MP conversation. Like it's been seven years. Let it go
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« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2017, 11:56:48 AM »
Not even with comparing the two..

Just - if MP was "allowed" to collaborate with DT again - even if it was just a song - you know he'd be all over social media like " back where I belong ! " and all this...

And his fanboys being all " welcome back MP ! ".


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« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2017, 12:16:27 PM »
I feel deep down inside of you, you know KM is the best lyricist of DT and want him back somehow (maybe not a player but like a composer)  :biggrin:

I like the idea. He is my favourite DT musician along with LaBrie. Having his lyrics or touch on upcoming DT would be great.
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« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2017, 12:29:12 PM »
I feel deep down inside of you, you know KM is the best lyricist of DT and want him back somehow (maybe not a player but like a composer) 

I can respect that opinion.  But as for me, no, I would not by any stretch agree that he was the best lyricist.  Not at all.
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« Reply #49 on: June 05, 2017, 12:31:11 PM »
I feel deep down inside of you, you know KM is the best lyricist of DT and want him back somehow (maybe not a player but like a composer) 

I can respect that opinion.  But as for me, no, I would not by any stretch agree that he was the best lyricist.  Not at all.

Neither would I. I actually found him very hit and miss, and the hits don't make up for the misses.
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« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2017, 12:44:17 PM »
I feel deep down inside of you, you know KM is the best lyricist of DT and want him back somehow (maybe not a player but like a composer) 

I can respect that opinion.  But as for me, no, I would not by any stretch agree that he was the best lyricist.  Not at all.

Neither would I. I actually found him very hit and miss, and the hits don't make up for the misses.
That's a good way of putting it in terms of being consistent with how I view things as well.
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« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2017, 01:29:31 PM »
I don't listen to DT for the lyrics.

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« Reply #52 on: June 05, 2017, 01:57:44 PM »
I know i'm not alone in not wanting MP anywhere near DT for the remainder of their career.

This. Kev would be great as a great lyricist or co-writer for a song or two, but MP? Hell no.

Not even with comparing the two..

Just - if MP was "allowed" to collaborate with DT again - even if it was just a song - you know he'd be all over social media like " back where I belong ! " and all this...

And his fanboys being all " welcome back MP ! ".

Completely agree.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2017, 02:46:24 PM »
I wasn't even so much referring to KM's lyrics. He developed a really unique musical style over the years, I feel it would be an interesting collaboration musically.
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« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2017, 05:27:03 AM »
I feel deep down inside of you, you know KM is the best lyricist of DT and want him back somehow (maybe not a player but like a composer) 

I can respect that opinion.  But as for me, no, I would not by any stretch agree that he was the best lyricist.  Not at all.

Neither would I. I actually found him very hit and miss, and the hits don't make up for the misses.

I like JR's lyrics best.

Besides, "best" lyricist is such a vague laurel.

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« Reply #55 on: June 07, 2017, 10:28:34 AM »
I would rank them something like

1. Earlier Petrucci
2. Kevin Moore
3. Portnoy
4. Myung
5. Later Petrucci
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« Reply #56 on: June 07, 2017, 01:38:09 PM »
I like JR's lyrics best.

They're very diverse  :lol
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2017, 01:42:31 PM »
He is an eccentric individual. I can imagine his lyrics being exceedingly obscure. I wonder if he actually does write at all or journal or something.

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« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2017, 01:48:56 PM »
He is an eccentric individual. I can imagine his lyrics being exceedingly obscure. I wonder if he actually does write at all or journal or something.

I remember a few different interviews where he was asked about writing lyrics/singing backing vocals for DT and for both cases he said something like that's not something the bad expects him to do, so he just never did it. Would be really cool if he started writing lyrics for DT.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2017, 01:54:47 PM »
I'd love to hear what rattles around his head.

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« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2017, 01:59:30 PM »
The dude has written lyrics. At least on Rhythm of Time, there's two songs that have his lyrics.

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« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2017, 02:27:59 PM »
I liked The Astonishing but I'm so fuckin ready for JP to stop producing and I so fuckin ready for him to ask the others to contribute more to the arrangements of songs and the construct of the album instead of just getting musical bits and pieces of ideas from them in jam sessions.
I think JP's creative vision needs a long recharging break, an album cycle would probably do just fine.
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« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2017, 05:43:24 AM »
I still wish on all the unicorns and four-leaf clovers in the world that Steven Wilson produces one of their albums.

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« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2017, 02:24:28 PM »
... I'm so fuckin ready for JP to stop producing and I so fuckin ready for him to ask the others to contribute more to the arrangements of songs and the construct of the album instead of just getting musical bits and pieces of ideas from them in jam sessions.
I think JP's creative vision needs a long recharging break, an album cycle would probably do just fine.

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« Reply #64 on: June 13, 2017, 08:46:46 PM »
I still wish on all the unicorns and four-leaf clovers in the world that Steven Wilson produces one of their albums.

I'm just hoping that Petrucci accidentally trips over Steven and gets into an argument about the drum sound on ADTOE  :biggrin:
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« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2017, 08:56:47 PM »
I just don't see the SW thing happening at all, for what I know, they guy isn't that easy to work with, and he doesn't even like DT. Sounds impossible to me.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2017, 11:07:42 PM »
I just don't see the SW thing happening at all, for what I know, they guy isn't that easy to work with, and he doesn't even like DT. Sounds impossible to me.

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Steven might force Petrucci to write a sequel to the Astonishing where Nafaryus laments the death of Faythe, in a real world alternate universe where magic doesn't exist, meaning that Gabriel wasn't capable of saving her. Gabriel is revealed to be a replicant of sorts and goes through an existential of what it means to be human and Arabelle breaks up with Nafaryus, causing further depression. Also the Nomacs kill everyone at the end...  :'(
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« Reply #67 on: June 13, 2017, 11:09:22 PM »
I just don't see the SW thing happening at all, for what I know, they guy isn't that easy to work with, and he doesn't even like DT. Sounds impossible to me.

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Steven might force Petrucci to write a sequel to the Astonishing where Nafaryus laments the death of Faythe, in a real world alternate universe where magic doesn't exist, meaning that Gabriel wasn't capable of saving her. Gabriel is revealed to be a replicant of sorts and goes through an existential of what it means to be human and Arabelle breaks up with Nafaryus, causing further depression. Also the Nomacs kill everyone at the end...  :'(

So that picture is pretty fantastic.
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« Reply #68 on: June 14, 2017, 05:39:09 AM »
I just don't see the SW thing happening at all, for what I know, they guy isn't that easy to work with, and he doesn't even like DT. Sounds impossible to me.

Maybe, maybe not...






Steven might force Petrucci to write a sequel to the Astonishing where Nafaryus laments the death of Faythe, in a real world alternate universe where magic doesn't exist, meaning that Gabriel wasn't capable of saving her. Gabriel is revealed to be a replicant of sorts and goes through an existential of what it means to be human and Arabelle breaks up with Nafaryus, causing further depression. Also the Nomacs kill everyone at the end...  :'(

That's an awesome photo!! :lol

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« Reply #69 on: June 14, 2017, 08:21:30 AM »
I like the "Progue One" pic much more  :biggrin: :lol


It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."