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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #875 on: August 15, 2017, 11:46:29 PM »
And So I Watch You From Afar

I'm guessing homeboy sent this.

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 8 RESULTS)
« Reply #876 on: August 16, 2017, 12:43:31 AM »
???: N_____n_l ______ - ___ V_i__ __ S___l
???: _____ni_ - S______ __in ___ ___ ____n_
???: ___________ - _______s
Stadler: Marillion - Neverland
???: __is D__ & ___ - S___nd S___ __ ___ _i___
home: And So I Watch You From Afar - S__ __i___s __ _ill
???: S___ - N__d_lsv_ls_n
???: D_______ - _____
???: _____s____iv_ - ___ _is_s_ __n _n _____
???: Chaos Divine - __ ___ _in_in_ __ ___ Si__n

Letters guessed:
DILNSV

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #877 on: August 16, 2017, 04:26:08 AM »
This Day & Age

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #878 on: August 16, 2017, 06:41:53 AM »
Set Guitars to Kill is the And So.. Afar song

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 8 RESULTS)
« Reply #879 on: August 16, 2017, 09:04:24 AM »
???: N_____nal ______ - ___ V_i__ __ S___l
???: _____ni_ - S______ _ain ___ ___ ___an_
???: A______a___ - _a_____s
Stadler: Marillion - Neverland
???: This Day & Age - S___nd S_a_ __ ___ _i___
home: And So I Watch You From Afar - Set Guitars to Kill
???: S___ - Na_dalsvals_n
???: Da______ - _____
???: _____s____iv_ - ___ _is_s_ _an _n _a___
???: Chaos Divine - A_ ___ _in_in_ __ ___ Si__n

Letters guessed:
ADILNSV

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A is for Luoto

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #880 on: August 16, 2017, 09:25:15 AM »
Nocturnal something

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 8 RESULTS)
« Reply #881 on: August 16, 2017, 09:57:22 AM »
???: N_____nal ______ - ___ V_i__ __ S___l
???: _____ni_ - S______ _ain ___ ___ ___an_
???: A______a___ - Ba_____s
Stadler: Marillion - Neverland
???: This Day & Age - S___nd S_a_ __ ___ _i___
home: And So I Watch You From Afar - Set Guitars to Kill
???: S___ - Na_dalsvals_n
???: Da______ - _____
???: _____s____iv_ - ___ _is_s_ _an _n _a___
???: Chaos Divine - A_ ___ _in_in_ __ ___ Si__n

Letters guessed:
ABDILNSV

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Luke waits 1

B is for Sacul

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #882 on: August 16, 2017, 10:56:47 AM »
Second Star of the Night
Second Star to the Right
Second Slap in the Fight

I dunno.

Also, R.
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 8 RESULTS)
« Reply #883 on: August 16, 2017, 11:27:54 AM »
???: N____rnal __r___ - ___ V_i__ __ S___l
???: _____ni_ - S__r___ _ain __r ___ __ran_
???: A_r___ra___ - Ba_rr__s
Stadler: Marillion - Neverland
???: This Day & Age - Second Star to the Right
home: And So I Watch You From Afar - Set Guitars to Kill
???: S___ - Na_dalsvals_n
???: Da_____r - _____
???: R__r_s____iv_ - ___ _is_s_ _an _n _ar__
???: Chaos Divine - A_ ___ Rin_in_ __ ___ Sir_n

Letters guessed:
ABDILNRSV

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #884 on: August 16, 2017, 11:49:35 AM »
The first one is Nocturnal something

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 8 RESULTS)
« Reply #885 on: August 16, 2017, 11:52:34 AM »
???: N____rnal __r___ - ___ V_i_e __ S_eel
???: _____ni_ - S__re_e _ain __r __e __ran_
???: Aere__ra__e - Barr_e_s
Stadler: Marillion - Neverland
???: This Day & Age - Second Star to the Right
home: And So I Watch You From Afar - Set Guitars to Kill
???: S___ - Na_dalsvalsen
???: Da____er - _____
???: Re_r_s_e__ive - __e _ises_ _an _n Ear__
???: Chaos Divine - A_ __e Rin_in_ __ __e Siren

Letters guessed:
ABDEILNRSV

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as i told bolsters, that is close but wrong

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #886 on: August 16, 2017, 12:08:29 PM »
Retrospective - The Wisest Man on Earth
Luke: Chthonic - Supreme Pain for the Tyrant
Tomislav: Nokturnal Mortum
« Last Edit: August 16, 2017, 12:17:11 PM by Luoto »
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 8 RESULTS)
« Reply #887 on: August 16, 2017, 12:23:26 PM »
Tomislav95: Nokturnal Mortum - ___ V_i_e __ S_eel
twosuitsluke: Chthonic - Supreme Pain for the Tyrant
???: Aere__ra__e - Barriers
Stadler: Marillion - Neverland
???: This Day & Age - Second Star to the Right
home: And So I Watch You From Afar - Set Guitars to Kill
???: S___ - Na_dalsvalsen
???: Da____er - _____
???: Retrospective - The Wisest Man on Earth
???: Chaos Divine - A_ __e Rin_in_ __ __e Siren

Letters guessed:
ABDEILNRSV

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damn luoto  :lol
« Last Edit: August 16, 2017, 04:05:22 PM by Parama »

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #888 on: August 16, 2017, 12:27:36 PM »
:lol

At least I don't have any idea of the rest (except for that Scandinavian song title)
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #889 on: August 16, 2017, 02:54:59 PM »
At The Ringing of The siren??

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #890 on: August 16, 2017, 03:43:45 PM »
The voice of squeel?
Barrier?
(In which case an e and i s missing)
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #891 on: August 17, 2017, 09:37:00 AM »
Possibly Voice of Steel.

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #892 on: August 17, 2017, 09:45:20 AM »
it's pretty steel-y

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #893 on: August 17, 2017, 11:07:52 AM »
M
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #894 on: August 17, 2017, 11:52:18 AM »
The voice of squeel?
This will be the name of my band :lol (if I'll ever have one)
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 8 RESULTS)
« Reply #895 on: August 17, 2017, 11:58:55 AM »
Tomislav95: Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel
twosuitsluke: Chthonic - Supreme Pain for the Tyrant
???: Aere__ramme - Barriers
Stadler: Marillion - Neverland
???: This Day & Age - Second Star to the Right
home: And So I Watch You From Afar - Set Guitars to Kill
???: S___ - Namdalsvalsen
???: Da____er - _____
???: Retrospective - The Wisest Man on Earth
???: Chaos Divine - At the Ringing of the Siren

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ABDEILMNRSV

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #896 on: August 17, 2017, 01:58:09 PM »
Just realized that Namdalsvalsen band is Soup and it's Train who sent them (yeah Train, that means you should go ahead and reveal which song is mine).
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #897 on: August 18, 2017, 06:31:47 AM »
When can we expect results?
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #898 on: August 18, 2017, 09:45:31 AM »
sunday probably
haha i lied writeups are done i just wanna be sure about one of these scores before i post results. i'm comparing it against the best songs submitted so far just so i can be justified with the 9.25 i wanna give it
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #899 on: August 19, 2017, 10:31:45 PM »
Round 9 Results

LordCost: Aereogramme – Barriers

First Impressions:
If this band had a split with Isis I am going to be expecting a certain kind of sound but from the way this starts I am not getting anything remotely like that. It’s more like, piano radio rock. Yeah huh, okay. I dig the violin though but it’s a bit buried in the mix. I think what’s not quite clicking for me on the first listen of this is the vocalist, especially when everything in the chorus snaps into place… he just sounds kind of weak in comparison to all the interesting stuff going on around him. The music behind the chorus itself though is pretty solid, the strings have more to do and the rest of the instrumentation swells sufficiently, it’s maybe a bit cliché in terms of sound but it’s nice regardless. I dunno, I’m just a sucker for that violin I think. This may be a bit on the overly cheery and sugary side for me on the whole though, but it has elements I do like regardless.

Final Thoughts:
Okay I’m gonna be honest on relistens this got kind of insufferable for me. I think based on my tastes you could probably figure out I’m not too into overly cheery, sugary music. I’ve even said as much in the writeup for that Ellie Goulding song. And well, yeah, that’s the exact problem here.

Production-wise this actually sounds fantastic, the violins sound excellent, the piano sound plenty full when it’s the primary driving force, the vocalist is pretty good and I have no real problem with him. Even the standard guitar bass and drums sound pretty good. It’s all produced well, it hits a good balance between sounding clean and not sounding too clean.

I just wish it was playing something a bit less, I dunno, syrupy and gruesomely sweet? Because I just cannot relate at all and it kind of makes me gag. I don’t mind love songs in general though they’re not really my thing, but they can work for me if they don’t overdo it. This overdoes it, it’s just oppressively happy. Especially that violin line on the chorus, and the chord progression the song bases itself off of in general really.

Also what the heck was this band doing on a split with Isis, that makes less and less sense the more I listen to this. Really the only part that emotionally clicks with me is the very end, that part works well in contrast to the rest of the song. I can’t really be especially hard on this though because at the end of the day… it all sounds nice enough, it’s just a bit too cheery for me. So ehh.

6.25/10



Evermind: Retrospective – The Wisest Man on Earth

First Impressions:
2017 is a bad year though who would ever want to send music from that awful year. Anyways any song that starts with an atmospheric bass groove is a 10/10 in my books so that’s all that really needs to be said. I worry I’m going to hate this when it kicks in proper though. Gives off tool vibes kind of when stuff starts building up actually, which is, you know, not a bad thing to remind me of. Though wow no vocals come in until like 2:45 wow. And I don’t know how much I like these like, whispered harsh vocals. I can’t quite pin my finger on it but there’s something very off about the distorted guitar sound here, it sounds very muffled and weak. Yeah there is something super wrong about that guitar sound, it’s gross. The vocals are a lot better though when the guy is just singing. Yeah wow that one thing is genuinely ruining the entire song for me, I just can’t get past how bad that distorted guitar sounds. The solo tone is fine though, solid enough solo.

Final Thoughts:
Honestly I totally understand why you would send this to me. You do seem to pay attention better than most to what I do and don’t like, and this kind of prog metal, driven a lot by the bass, with a lot of atmosphere, is right up my alley. I’d totally love to give this a good score too.

But holy hell, what the heck happened with the production here? I actually showed this to a few people & got a response saying that apparently what’s happening is that the guitar is fine but the way the bass is mixed, it’s totally destroying how the guitar sounds for some reason or other. I guess I’d liken the sound to what it sounds like when you track two of the same instrument playing the same thing in guitar pro, which is basically, it ends up sounding like crap exactly like this.

And it’s a shame because aside from the bass stuff like I mentioned earlier, the riffs themselves are pretty solid, and the vocals as well are pretty good, it’s a style where I can’t really draw any direct comparisons to other artists but they’re diverse and have a lot of power behind them. And really, most of the song doesn’t sound that bad either? It’s specifically just the chorus where the guitar ends up sounding like total crap. And the chorus would probably be pretty cool without that too.

So at the end of the day, I very much do not have an interest in checking out this band (or at least, this album) further if the production is this horribly botched, but I mean if they put out an album without this mixing disaster ruining otherwise good songs I’d totally be onboard? Since the problems I have with this boil down to just that and basically nothing else, really. But yeah, decent song destroyed by bad production, it’s a shame.

6.5/10



Tomislav95: Nokturnal Mortum – The Voice of Steel

First Impressions:
So I’m absolutely positive I’ve checked out this band before but I don’t really remember it & it might have been when I was first getting into black metal but was more interested in the spacier/less folk side of the genre. Because yeah this is decisively rather folky, that violin thirty seconds into the song is evidence of such. I don’t have a ton to say about this at the start though other than it’s maybe a bit lo-fi for my tastes. Then it picks up intensity and transforms into something that sounds like thrash or death metal about 4 minutes in, okay. Yeah if I’m being honest, as far as black metal goes this is okay but a bit unmemorable aside from its folkier moments. And even the folky bits are kind of really short loops that don’t stay interesting for long. It’s got both a good sense of atmosphere and a good amount of intensity, at the very least. But the production really does not flatter the songwriting and the riffs themselves seem pretty basic and unmemorable too. Feeling really meh about this one unfortunately. No wonder I didn’t check them out further. This album is rated over 3.8 on RYM? Geez. Maybe I’m just the one missing something here, dunno.

Final Thoughts:
I find it difficult to really come to any cohesive conclusion about how I feel regarding this song. Stylistically it’s right up my alley, yes. But the production pushes too far in the direction of muddy and obscures the songwriting. But regardless of that there’s solid atmosphere and some cool riffs too. But then it also ends up feeling a bit monotonous, even for as much as it changes.

…so yeah, the issue here more than anything else is the production. It’s my longstanding gripe with a lot of black metal, and one I feel the genre should’ve moved past. A lot of early black metal bands sound like that because the technology wasn’t there. Sounding this fuzzy and muffled in the mid 2000’s is just a bad stylistic choice; you can still be somewhat lo-fi and have better quality production that doesn’t hamper the composition and power of a song.

That bit in the middle really sounds straight out of a Slayer song. And well, if you’ve noticed, I have Slayer on my banned list, in red. That’s… not a good thing to be, at all. I think this is a bit better than Slayer though mostly for having decently evil sounding vocals and not being nothing but fast-picked riffing, though that guitar solo is a bit too reminiscent of the worthless noise Kerry King often puts in songs. I like some dissonance but mindless, tasteless hammering away at random notes I do not like.

The folky loops in this song also just, feel like a gimmick. They’re all short and incidental, there’s that one violin loop that’s solid and pops up occasionally, and there’s the flute loop about two thirds into the song that is way, way too short and repetitive even when it gets harmonies. And those are about the only claim to folkiness this song has. You can maybe count the backing chanting vocals but that’s barely folk in my opinion.

And the song’s also kinda repetitive in general, the first few minutes and the last few minutes all lean on the same two-three  musical ideas without a ton of variation. Boy, I just have nothing but bad things to say about this do I, huh.

Well. Overall this is still far from the worst song in the round, it’s the kind of thing I wouldn’t mind having on as background music at all, but as active listening music there’s too much wrong with it and too little here for the runtime to keep me interested in it. And yeah, I do like my black metal with better production than this. It’s just a very underwhelming track and I absolutely do not understand why this is as critically acclaimed as it is, but, oh well.

6.75/10



home: And So I Watch You From Afar – Set Guitars to Kill

First Impressions:
Another very Evermind-y song title honestly, wow. No clue what to expect from this but it starts pretty dang weird. Then brings in the heavy guitars and I am digging this riff, basic as it is. The lead guitar loop feels a bit weak though, a bit on the repetitive side. Yeah I am… a bit baffled by this one thus far. I think the lead guitars are supposed to be the focus but I dig everything else more than them? Like this bassline that comes in around the four minute mark, it’s pretty cool and the drums play off it well. While the lead guitars are just doing something else entirely that I barely care about. I guess it’s nice in that it creates a frantic background sound, but I think the song could’ve managed that without the leads. The climax of this is pretty dang intense too. Just a huge wall of noise. Whew. Okay. Kind of mixed to positive feelings here on first listen but I think it’s pretty solid if nothing else.

Final Thoughts:
This is one of those cases where I feel like I failed to develop any additional feelings towards this song after the initial listen and it just ended up as being a very “there” song among the rest of the songs this round. Doesn’t really do anything too awful so as to bother me and get a lower score, but it doesn’t do much at all to wow me either.

Like, the heavy riffs in this are fine enough but they are very basic sludgy stuff. Not crushingly heavy or memorable in any way, just… there to be the heavy aspect of the song. And while I like that the bass is present throughout a fair bit of this song, the tone it’s using is pretty watery and weak, and the basslines are often not that interesting even when I can make them out.

And it’s maybe just a me kind of thing, but I am just not interested at all in what the lead guitars are doing here. Again, I don’t really like the tone of them but these melodies seem rather uninspired and not especially pleasant to listen to. The drums here are really the one element that stands out the most, boasting a nice diversity of styles and some pretty technically satisfying rhythms too. But they can’t really carry the song on their own.

And that’s basically all there is to say. It’s hard to really even comment on the song as a whole beyond that for me… I just find it rather unremarkable. Not bad. Not particularly good. Won’t remember it after the roulette and I don’t think I’m better off for having heard it either, but. Ehh.

6.75/10



Stadler: Marillion – Neverland

First Impressions:
So obviously this is a band I’ve from but have never had any interest at all in checking out, I really don’t actively seek out much prog rock tbh. I see this is going the “start out with a piano bit” route. Oh and when it kicks in it definitely seems to be going for a darker vibe which I can always get behind. This is hardly prog thus far but honestly I’m pretty okay with that because from what I’ve heard up to this point, it’s all really good? Like, nothing that unique but just done really well & strikes an emotional chord for sure. That recurring bassline is also pretty great. It feels like it may have hit its peak a little early though but maybe it has somewhere to go from here, who knows. I guess if there’s one thing to complain about I just don’t care for the vocal style too much? Like it doesn’t sound that out of place here, the tone just isn’t one I’m much a fan of. And yeah this kind of just… rides a high for half its runtime. Then ends with a minute of ambient chimes or something, okay. In the context of an album maybe that’d be okay but I’m not a fan of it here.

Final Thoughts:
Honestly on first listen I was more than ready to say this was my favorite of all the songs you’ve sent me this roulette. But man, I was pretty sick of this one by third listen and it never really got better from there. And yes there’s just one major problem…

This song drags on like nothing else, almost half the song is just riding one high, and while there are subtle changes in that high it’s a really similar vibe for something like 5-6 minutes straight without any sense of change or dynamics. And it’s kind of just, boring as hell if I’m being honest. The vocals get a bit annoying here, too, the stuttering lyrics and tone start to grate after a while.

So I’m pretty harsh on basically half the song, but everything before that is still pretty great? It builds up nicely, the bluesy piano lines have a nice restrained groove to them that the bass plays off well, the chorus is quite good too, and there’s just a nice sense of flow and atmosphere. And the bits of guitar lead coming in an out in a floydian kind of way without overstaying their welcome.

I dunno, I don’t think this is awful and it’s pretty good as a whole honestly, I just think it would’ve been a much stronger 7-8 minute song than a 12 minute song. I think if there was something strong driving the ending like a continuously escalating guitar solo, and also maybe less vocals, I wouldn’t be so bothered by it. It’s kind of trying to be the band’s Hey Jude it feels like but misses the mark & doesn’t have a big singalong vibe that makes that song work.

But it’s not a bad song at all and sitting down and listening to it now I’m liking it a bit more than I had been on my past few listens, too, so. There’s that much at least.

7.25/10



twosuitsluke: Chthonic – Supreme Pain for the Tyrant

First Impressions:
There’s another band with a similar name that I got these guys confused with at first. I can’t recall the name though but they had a popular album in 2016 I think. Anyways this seems to be like, straight up black metal type stuff? I can’t say I’m huge on the vocals, for starters, but the riffs and guitar leads are at least pretty solid. And there’s a symphonic backing in there kind of though it’s a bit downplayed? It’s all elements I’m totally on board with. I’m tired right now it’s past midnight. I’m using this as a tidbit so it’s not obvious what I think of this song. This is sort of blurring together but I think it’s more because they use kind of similar types of riffs. But that said I mean all of this sounds pretty good, it’s kind of rockin’, decently intense, intermittently beautiful, and never boring. Just not something that hits me hard on first listen.

Final Thoughts:
This is the kind of metal song I’m basically inclined to enjoy just on style alone and I’m fairly certain you know that and that’s why you sent it to me. And I mean, yeah, playing it safe with something you know I like is actually how I wish more people would submit songs in this roulette because I am honestly not trying to expand my tastes that much here.

So anyways the song itself. It’s plenty melodic for the style, a lot of the riffs and guitar leads being based in pretty straightforward progression, but there’s the strings also there backing up the song when the riffing gets more angular and chuggy in nature. Basically it ends up being a pretty “nice” sounding song a lot of the time even when it’s being heavy.

But there’s still moments of dissonance to keep you on your toes as well, the guitar lead in the middle of the song is a more notable moment of that, but I mean, most if not all of the vocals are harsh growls which is also obviously not too “nice”. So there’s a good sense of contrast going on here between the more melodic elements and the harsher, more “metal” elements.

If there’s one fault I can accuse the song of, it’s lacking in dynamic enough to the point where it hardly feels like it has any sort of climactic moment, or any moment that stands out from the rest of the song in a big way. It’s just riding a solid feel the whole way through but the ending always catches me by surprised and feels too early because the song doesn’t have any high to hit that can really take it to the next level and make me really feel strongly about it.

So yeah at the end of the day I definitely would say I like this one but it’s not quite there for me to really love it, though I’ll probably end up at least checking out a song or two from this band if not the entire album this is off of. I think the metal on display here is all pretty solid, I just wish they had a better sense of dynamics to back it up.

7.75/10
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #900 on: August 19, 2017, 10:33:10 PM »
Train of Naught: Soup – Namdalsvalsen

First Impressions:
It took me a while to figure out which was the band name and which was the song name but I’m pretty sure this is right, which is also the opposite of what I was expecting. That’s a weird band name, okay. This starts out with some fairly nice piano work and pretty nice vocals as well. Admittedly this style of piano-lead music is never my favorite and I’ve said as much several times this roulette, hint hint, but this is building up nicely enough at least. And it’s got that showtune-y vibe like the dear hunter at times, which is, unsurprisingly, my least favorite element of the band (it’s why I can’t get into Act V at all, lol). Basically this entire song is an amalgamation of elements I don’t tend to like but I will say that it does come together quite nicely, especially that ending. I don’t know if it’s a song I can get behind fully though but in spite of my complaining I did enjoy this, yes.

Final Thoughts:
This is one of those songs that just sounds nice which makes it a very easy track to listen to several times. I think I’d have to listen to this quite a lot of times quite frequently to get sick of it, especially since it’s smart enough to have a good sense of progression even when it totally has the pieces to stagnate if it wanted to.

The chorus of the song in particular has a lot going on at once that works together well – the harmonized vocals not even necessarily playing off each other, a few of the voices adding little flourishes from time to time, the flute runs that happen in the background, the atmospheric drumming, the strings in the back. It all creates an emotional landscape that I can really feel and get into.

And yeah the slow build in the second half to a very satisfying and absolutely immense climax is very satisfying as well. I can’t even really figure out every last thing happening there but I almost wish instead of ending it how they did they had the piano and drums fade out to just leave a huge wall of atmospheric sounds. But yeah for what is going on there it’s still very satisfying.

For as prominently as it features here I’d say the piano is my least favorite part of the whole thing, though. It’s effective in creating a consistent rhythm that grounds the song, but honestly I would prefer it to be a more atmospheric and ethereal kind of song and I could see it working even better in that context, so I’m almost biased against it by default, but I can’t say I’m too into anything the piano is doing, anyways. It’s nice, sure, but just doesn’t do a ton for me.

If that’s the only thing I can complain about in the entire song though, that signifies to me that this is a winner on the whole, and I can definitely say I enjoyed this one every time I listened to it. So yeah. Good stuff.

8/10



Nekov: This Day & Age – Second Star to the Right

First Impressions:
I swear I recognize this name and it was probably sent in another roulette or something. This is some kind of bright and peppy song, isn’t it. I sort of feel like the singer is undersinging, it feels like he wants to have more emotion in his voice than what he’s actually providing and it comes off as kind of robotic as a result. I dunno, the chorus is just underwhelming me, mostly. I don’t really have much else to say about this. It’s a nice-sounding song with decent instrumentation for sure. It just doesn’t really grab me in any way on first listen and I think the lack of emotional connection is what does it.

Final Thoughts:
This is another song in this round that’s unquestionably pretty bright and cheery, but it strays far enough way from oppressively happy to just be a really good feel-good song with one hell of a good chorus. I think in my first impression write-up I thought something else was the chorus and said that was underwhelming but uhh the actual chorus here is pretty great. That’s just a good hook.

The rest of the song bounces between pretty diverse and cohesive instrumentation, with the guitars and piano playing off each other pretty well and the bass occasionally getting its moment to shine. The instrumentation behind the chorus is a lot fuller in sound too with a nice guitar lead going on in the background that provides a bright texture. None of it is really that complex but it all works well and still gives the vocals plenty of room to breathe.

But yeah, I can say whatever I want about the rest but the real draw here is the chorus and that part of the song works really well, hits with a lot of power and a very memorable melody. And it’s not like the song has too much of that chorus, it’s maybe a quarter of the song as a whole. So it doesn’t get tiresome.

I really don’t have a ton to say here it’s just a nice song that I enjoy quite a bit, really. If I had complaints, I guess, the vocals are maybe a touch low in the mix during the chorus? Not enough to matter. And the production isn’t fantastic, and I checked and it’s not the video, I guess that’s just how it sounds. Again it doesn’t really get in the way of the song though, I am just reaching for things to nitpick really. So yeah, good stuff.

8.25/10



Luoto: Chaos Divine – At the Ringing of the Siren

First Impressions:
Song title sounds like something Evermind would send. 5 seconds in and I am in LOVE though. This is literally right up my alley. Like just this kind of sound I dig. Frantic but controlled guitar noodling and jagged riffing is my jam. And the atmospheric verses are also very up my alley, make the whole thing nice and dynamic. You’d usually expect a more high-pitched/post-hardcore leaning vocalist on a song like this but I do honestly prefer the deeper tone of this singer too. Kind of power metal-y in tone. There’s a weird break in the middle, okay. Yeah I don’t know if this song in particular is something I’m hugely in love with but this is a sound I generally like a lot and this is almost certainly going to get pretty high points.

Final Thoughts:
Like seriously, stylistically, this is just hitting right on the musical mood I’ve been in recently, thanks mostly to The Hirsch Effekt and Black Peaks. This could’ve been the worst possible song in that style and it would still have basically been guaranteed pretty high points, but no, this is pretty dang solid.

Like you start out with this frantic and jagged intro that gives way to a more dense sound, dropping out for a quieter moment that still carries the rhythm of the previous part of the song into its transition. And it reprises the intro again for a short buildup to the more straightforward chorus. It feels like this song has a really great grasp on cohesive songwriting.

Oh and the part right after the first chorus with the heavy jagged riff and really freakin’ awesome vocals is probably the best part of the whole thing, it’s just got a great driving feel and the drums are really accentuating that. And then they do one of those tricks I really love, this quieter moment that feels like it’s in a different tempo but it’s actually just 3/16th notes like a lot of the rhythms in the song are based around. It breaks things up without ever breaking the flow of the song because it’s based on a major factor of the song.

This song also seems to be constantly in motion, rarely revisiting specific ideas outside of that chorus and the intro riff, but because the song’s cohesion is as strong as it is it manages to ebb and flow smoothly throughout all its shifts in musical ideas. It’s a lot of varied stuff that just naturally flows together and comes full circle in the end. It’s a really goddamn well-written prog metal song.

So yeah, if it isn’t obvious. I liked this, a lot. I’m seriously debating what I could score this, since it’s easily one of the best songs in the roulette, at least on par with the Black Peaks song, which I guarantee you is getting a point boost when I do relistens and rescorings. Maybe even better than that one though. I’m not even going to be cautious with this one since I’m fumbling over quarter points as usual, this is fantastic.

9.0/10



Bolsters: Daughter – Youth

First Impressions:
Apparently I rated this song highly on another site over four years ago (I checked) but I don’t actually remember it at all so I’m allowing it. And yeah I can see why I would and do like this, it’s got both some quiet beauty to it and some more intense climaxes that give the song a nice sense of energy. I feel like that’s all that really needs to be said? I guess the drums are the standout instrument whenever they come in, they drive the louder moments of the song more than anything else but man that’s just some nice lush atmosphere in the background. The vocals are nice too but I can’t say I’m quite connecting with them right at this moment.

Final Thoughts:
On first listen I don’t think this one quite hit me as hard as it could’ve. But on second listen and really every listen since… hell, I’m not even gonna be subtle, this is the best song of the roulette so far easily. It’s the only song I can really call flawless while also having a strong emotional connection.

Like that chorus, she’s not even emoting that strongly but there’s a shakiness in her voice that absolutely sells the emotion, and the lyrics themselves are pretty dang potent. Even the first chorus in its subtleties is pretty good, but the second chorus uses an even quieter start to build itself up to the more intense and dramatic sound of the bridge. With the echoing “you caused it” accusation keeping the chorus going throughout.

And then things just build up from there, with the vocals getting more angry and emotional while guitars swell up even more to create an even more powerful atmosphere. The third chorus repeats the same arc as the second leading to another bridge to top off the emotional climax of the song, though I don’t think it quite tops the earlier bridge. Like if I had any one criticism of the entire song, I feel like the bit after the third chorus doesn’t quite hit hard enough to be a final payoff for the entire song, but it’s still pretty dang potent.

Also I skimmed over it before but the second verse is also really dang great, with the drums punctuating the start of each phrase before fading out to cleaner instrumentation. There’s something about that that just really resonates with me.

It’s really a simple track overall but it’s the kind of track that just carries so much turbulent emotional power and knows how to ebb and flow in the right ways to keep itself from ever getting stale and basically on every listen this was my favorite track of the round. Easily deserves some pretty dang great points.

9.25/10



Current Standings:
Luoto – 79
Nekov – 76
home – 75
Bolsters – 75
twosuitsluke – 74.25
Evermind – 73.25
Train of Naught – 73.25
LordCost – 73
Tomislav95 – 72.75
Stadler – 68.5

This was a pretty good round on the whole really, several quite great tracks and even the weakest stuff wasn't awful.
Round 10 will take a bit longer because I'm going to be doing round 5-9 relistens and rescorings at the same time but please get songs in as soon as possible so I don't have to John Cage anyone.
Also I'm gonna go ahead and say that Luoto should definitely start preparing an EP, I could see anyone else missing the top three with how close 2 through 5 all are right now but I highly doubt the person three points in the lead is going to miss the top three at this point  :lol
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 9 RESULTS)
« Reply #901 on: August 19, 2017, 10:47:48 PM »
Round 9 Secondary Judge Results – Judge Train of Naught

1. Daughter – Youth

5 points

2. Retrospective – The Wisest Man on Earth

3 points

3. Chthonic – Supreme Pain for the Tyrant

2 points

4. Aereogramme - Barriers
5. Marillion - Neverland
6. Chaos Divine – At the Ringing of the Siren
7. And So I Watch You From Afar – Set Guitars to Kill
8. Soup – Namdalsvalsen (Judge's Song)
9. Nokturnal Mortum – The Voice of Steel
10. This Day & Age – Second Star to the Right

Parama’s notes:
Well I mean Bolsters sent a song Train was going to send so it’s no wonder it scored highest, also because it’s fantastic. In the same PM that I received these Train told me he liked the new Hirsch Effekt too, which makes Chaos Divine rating so low kind of weird but whatever. A few of these are a bit weird but not that surprising really.

Current Secondary Judge Standings:
Bolsters - 17
Evermind - 14
Train of Naught - 13
Tomislav95 – 12
twosuitsluke - 8
Luoto - 7
home - 7
Nekov - 2
LordCost - 0
Stadler - 0

Everyone with less than 12 points is mathematically eliminated from secondary judge rankings at this point and honestly I don't know how I'd handle a tie in the secondary judge rankings if it's a tie that matters (two people not already going to the finals) but the spot is still potentially up for grabs at this point.
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 9 RESULTS)
« Reply #902 on: August 20, 2017, 02:16:50 AM »
Oh well... I really though you'd like Nokturnal Mortum :-\
I'm glad you liked Daughter that much, of course they were on my list to send but I didn't really consider them seriously :loser:
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 9 RESULTS)
« Reply #903 on: August 20, 2017, 02:18:38 AM »
i'm rather picky about my black metal, apparently, but i particularly don't understand why nokturnal mortum is so popular? maybe the rest of the songs on that album are good, i dunno

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 9 RESULTS)
« Reply #904 on: August 20, 2017, 02:41:10 AM »
I only heard them recently, listened to that album and their latest a few times, and the song I sent is definitely among my favorites.
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 9 RESULTS)
« Reply #905 on: August 20, 2017, 03:26:49 AM »
The previous Aereogramme albums are different. In the past the singer even made screams, but I still know few songs of the previous albums. They did an EP with ISIS but not a split; they have composed together the songs. It was a project organized also with other couples of bands, the collaboration was not decided by the bands.

No surprise I'm last in this round, but I think you could like other Aereogramme songs.

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 9 First Impressions)
« Reply #906 on: August 20, 2017, 04:42:21 AM »
this is the best song of the roulette so far easily.
Figured you'd like it, didn't expect this though.

I've just sent my latest disappointment.

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 9 RESULTS)
« Reply #907 on: August 20, 2017, 09:21:55 AM »
That's my first 9 in any roulette. I thought about sending another track from them but I'm glad I didn't :biggrin:

I'll send R10 on Monday at the latest. I already have a pretty solid EP idea, though I'm seriously afraid of running out of Paramacore at this point :corn
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 9 RESULTS)
« Reply #908 on: August 20, 2017, 09:33:00 AM »
Waiting for the rescoring points for Black Peaks :corn
Is it the first time that a song is the best one both for secondary judge and Parama?

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 9 RESULTS)
« Reply #909 on: August 20, 2017, 11:56:11 AM »
That's my first 9 in any roulette. I thought about sending another track from them but I'm glad I didn't :biggrin:
i wasn't expecting to give it as high a score as i did when i did my writeup but then i realized i just had nothing bad to say about it at all
definitely interested in checking out the band, to say the least