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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #140 on: May 15, 2017, 10:35:37 PM »
how has nobody guessed the infected mushroom song yet anyways
I only know two Infected Mushroom songs and this one is neither of them.

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #141 on: May 16, 2017, 12:23:03 AM »
Give me the S
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #142 on: May 16, 2017, 12:46:42 AM »
Right, the Infected Mushroom song is 'Saeed'.

alright, that was hangmanen, now let's guess who sent what :corn
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #143 on: May 16, 2017, 01:15:23 AM »
???: Kwoon Ė Schizophrenic
???: Jane's Addiction - Three Days
Evermind: Need - Tilikum
???: Helms Alee Ė Pinniped
Tomislav95: Windir - Svartesmeden og Lundamyrstrollet
???: Infected Mushroom Ė Saeed
???: Faith No More Ė smilelobber
Sacul: Kamasi Washington - The Rhythm Changes
Bolsters: CHVRCHES - The Mother We Share
Luoto: Beílakor - Sun's Delusion
???: Old Man Gloom - To Carry the Flame
???: Textures Ė Laments of an Icarus

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Results will probably be up on Saturday, will be a little faster after this round hopefully but I have 80 minutes of music between 12 songs, so
I still haven't settled on whether I'm gonna go with 8 or 10 players so I guess it's up to how good the songs are in this round  :tup

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #144 on: May 16, 2017, 06:18:34 AM »
There's some people in this round I don't know and I also don't know most of the bands that were sent so it's hard to guess who sent what. I'll let you guys have all the fun
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #145 on: May 16, 2017, 07:32:42 AM »
I already guessed all the hangmanens. Someone else can go after who sent what.
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #146 on: May 16, 2017, 11:06:03 AM »
I try: Elite - Textures, because you guessed almost all the other songs apart that one ;D
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #147 on: May 16, 2017, 11:19:04 AM »
I try: Elite - Textures, because you guessed almost all the other songs apart that one ;D
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #148 on: May 16, 2017, 11:46:15 AM »
Yeah, well. That's what happens if nobody else guesses songs I think
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #149 on: May 16, 2017, 01:42:49 PM »
Train - Infected Mushroom
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #150 on: May 16, 2017, 02:26:34 PM »
Stadler - Jane's Addiction
home - Infected Mushroom
Train - Kwoon
Luke - Old Man Gloom
LordCost - Helms Alee
Nekov - Faith no More
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #151 on: May 16, 2017, 02:49:23 PM »
Well, two of those are right  :corn

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #152 on: May 16, 2017, 02:50:16 PM »
Yeah, that's why I said I suck at guessing who sent what.
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #153 on: May 16, 2017, 03:19:33 PM »
Well, two of those are right  :corn

I'd guess home and Train are right? If not then I'm guessing Train sent Old Man Gloom??

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #154 on: May 16, 2017, 03:20:39 PM »
Stadler and Train are the two correct guesses

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #155 on: May 16, 2017, 03:31:39 PM »
LordCost sent Infected Mushroom then

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #156 on: May 16, 2017, 04:17:56 PM »
Still wrong

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #157 on: May 16, 2017, 06:18:53 PM »
Luke?

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #158 on: May 16, 2017, 08:32:31 PM »
Train of Naught: Kwoon Ė Schizophrenic
Stadler: Jane's Addiction - Three Days
Evermind: Need - Tilikum
???: Helms Alee Ė Pinniped
Tomislav95: Windir - Svartesmeden og Lundamyrstrollet
???: Infected Mushroom Ė Saeed
???: Faith No More Ė smilelobber
Sacul: Kamasi Washington - The Rhythm Changes
Bolsters: CHVRCHES - The Mother We Share
Luoto: Beílakor - Sun's Delusion
???: Old Man Gloom - To Carry the Flame
Elite: Textures Ė Laments of an Icarus

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #159 on: May 17, 2017, 12:12:22 AM »
So LordCost sent Faith no More then?

And Luke Pinniped and Bolsters Infected Mushroom?
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #160 on: May 17, 2017, 12:20:07 AM »
OK, time to do this shit:

Nekov - Infected Mushroom
Luke - Helms Alee
LoCo - Faith No More
home - Old Man Gloom

Bolsters Infected Mushroom?
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #161 on: May 17, 2017, 12:44:21 AM »
Train of Naught: Kwoon Ė Schizophrenic
Stadler: Jane's Addiction - Three Days
Evermind: Need - Tilikum
twosuitsluke: Helms Alee Ė Pinniped
Tomislav95: Windir - Svartesmeden og Lundamyrstrollet
Nekov: Infected Mushroom Ė Saeed
LordCost: Faith No More Ė smilelobber
Sacul: Kamasi Washington - The Rhythm Changes
Bolsters: CHVRCHES - The Mother We Share
Luoto: Beílakor - Sun's Delusion
home: Old Man Gloom - To Carry the Flame
Elite: Textures Ė Laments of an Icarus

you've done it, the madman

tbh after three listens. I dunno who's gonna get cut  :lol
i don't know if there's any songs i find really great but of the 12 tracks i don't think there's any one that's notably weak. i know at least two people who are safe for sure but beyond that it's anyone's game

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #162 on: May 19, 2017, 04:08:45 AM »
:corn
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #164 on: May 19, 2017, 08:35:33 AM »
yeah, i have three writeups written right now and i'm gonna do more tonight & finish the rest saturday if i don't finish tonight, so chill
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Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #166 on: May 20, 2017, 10:11:07 AM »
every single song was so bad that they all get 0/10 and the roulette is cancelled

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #167 on: May 20, 2017, 10:17:29 AM »
such a shame
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #168 on: May 20, 2017, 10:23:09 AM »
w/e
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #169 on: May 20, 2017, 05:52:49 PM »
i have all the writeups done but i want to give the bottom 4 or so another listen just so i'm sure on who to cut

also need to refine my scoring scale a little bit i think because one of the songs feels like it's scored too low & i might just bump it up a quarter point? dunno

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #170 on: May 20, 2017, 06:11:46 PM »
ok I'm going to bed, I'll see my 3/10 tomorrow.
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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (Round 0 First Impressions)
« Reply #171 on: May 20, 2017, 06:34:36 PM »
elite: text - Carrie

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Re: Parama's Confrontational Roulette v2.5 (ROUND 0 RESULTS)
« Reply #172 on: May 20, 2017, 09:05:40 PM »
Trapped in the Disaster Zone

LordCost: Faith No More Ė smilelobber

First Impressions:
Iíve heard some Faith No More before but, not a lot & I canít really say I have a good grasp on what they ďsoundĒ like from what Iíve heard, so. Weíll see. I have to say that I am really digging this first heavy riff though. It has this dense and ominous sound that I quite like. The chorus isÖ something. I donít know if repeating the same chuggy riff so many times does it any favors & the vocals are pretty much indecipherable. I feel like I wouldíve been more into the triplet section in the middle when I was younger but now it just feels a bit forced to me. Not necessarily bad though. It does feel like this song really just meanders about a lot and while Iím mildly positive on how it sounds I feel this might not hold up well on relistens very well.

Final Thoughts:
Okay, Iím gonna have to say it. Mike Patton doesnít do a very convincing growl. Like at all. He sounds like an angry white guy. Not some primal force or anything. Granted, I still donít tend to feel much beyond neutral towards growls, they can work in context, and the music of this song is certainly music I could see growls working in, just not these growls. Iím not sold on them at all.

Though in general Iím just not sure if this style of metal really does it for me. The riffs are there but the song is just too stagnant to really hold my interest, and the slight phaser effect on the guitar tone isnít very appealing either. It takes away some of the rough crunch of the guitar tone.

I donít really think any parts of this sound ďbadĒ but as a whole the song does have this vibe of ďsections strung together without cohesionĒ. The first few minutes all fit together but then the triplet bit in the middle kills the flow, and it changes up again a bit laterÖ and then fades into that organ bit. Which, granted, makes for a solid ending, sure, I donít mind it and itís not as abrupt or out of place as some of the other transitions here feel.

I wouldnít say this is a bad song by any means but it just stirs up no strong feelings from me. It kind of has that vibe of being heavy for the sake of writing something heavy and not really anything else. At the very least itís not convincing me to check out this album. But, ehh, itís okay I guess.

6.5/10



home: Old Man Gloom Ė To Carry the Flame

First Impressions:
WHAM. The moment the song starts itís just, all-out. Massive sludgy riff and intense growled vocals. Works for me. I dig that riff quite a lot, so. Though this does feel a bit stretched thin over its runtime. I do appreciate that it keeps things dynamic & that main riff is pretty great but having it hammered in to this extent might have been a bit overkill, even with the song not being so long. And, weird drone-y outro. Sure. I dunno, this seems pretty fine and I totally get why you sent it. It just feels a little underwritten, I guess.

Final Thoughts:
I canít really complain about the vocals here considering itís just the guy from Isis doing vocals. He does this style of growl about as good as anyone is ever going to & it sounds plenty fine here.

I think what misses the mark for me here is that a lot of these riffs just arenít very compelling. I thought the main riff was at first, but the more I listened to this the more it wore off on me. Itís a fine enough riff but itís not one good enough to sustain the majority of a song like it does here.

The part of the song that holds my interest the most is the instrumental stretch in the middle that sounds more like an Isis song with the tom-heavy drumming and punchy brighter guitar chords. The way that section builds up back into the heaviness of the rest of the song is decisively pretty cool. I kind of wish the song had stuck to this longer and really had time to flesh out this bit and make the build even more gradual, since as it is the song is a bit short really.

And that outroÖ ehh. In the context of the album I bet it works really well but taking the song on its own itís a minute of noise stitched onto an already fairly short track. Iíd rather it not be here but Iím not so bothered by it.

I think the biggest problem of the song is how little of it does a lot for me given its length, though. The first minute and a half are okay but not that great, so Iím waiting for that second main section to show up and I do enjoy the song from there on until the minute-long outro, at which point I kind of tune out again. The parts of this I do like arenít even that incredible either but theyíre pretty decent at the very least. Overall it balances out to something slightly above an ďÖeh.Ē for me.

6.5/10



Nekov: Infected Mushroom Ė Saeed

First Impressions:
Okay, so Iím either going to hate this or love this. I feel like thereís not going to be any inbetween here. The voice-y synth in the intro isÖ meh. Oh. I wasnít expecting this to turn into an industrial metal kind of trackÖ sure. Still sort of makes me feel like I should be ravingÖ except that raving and rave culture are two things the appeal of is utterly and completely lost on for me. I can tell that this is going through lots of different sections and progressing just fine and all but all the sections still sound really samey to me. Loud blaring synths and really crunchy guitars can only support so many different sounds on their own, I guess. And I think the length is really what kills it for me, at 4 minutes maybe I could get this, but at 7 minutes it feels really stretched thin. If thereís one thing I do genuinely like itís the vocals, they fit really well with the style and the singer has a unique enough voice on top of that, and itís not like most  of this really sounds bad to my ears. It just doesnít catch my attention in any real way, though. Guess I donít love it nor hate it, how about that.

Final Thoughts:
When I first listened to all the songs, I was almost positive this one was going to end up right at the bottom of the pack. It definitely has the most elements that immediately struck me as unpleasant. Between the synths I didnít like and the length, it felt like it dragged on quite long despite not being one of the longest songs this round.

But it did grow on me a little, mostly in part due to the vocals. I honestly wish they were given a bigger focus, as I like the tone & the melodies the vocals provide whenever theyíre around, and as well they seem to bring out the best in the music whenever they show up. Either the song gives them room to breathe or the atmosphere gets dense as heck to have them blend in. The chorus especially is actually genuinely great. Even brings in some piano in the background. Heck yeah.

I still canít get too behind a lot of the synth work in this though. Itís bleepy bloopy noise that doesnít feel like it has much groove to it nor is it providing any compelling melody. And a lot of the tones arenít too pleasant either. At the very least Iím pretty certain I wonít be checking out more from this artist because Iíd expect the synth work like that to be a fairly defining feature of their style.

I think this wouldíve made a great 4-5 minute song with some of the instrumental fluff trimmed down and the vocals made the main focus of the song. Even then I feel like thereís still at least half of this I can really get behind and groove to, and the rest for the most part isnít really bad, just kind ofÖ there. Thereís at the very least enough here for me to give this a pass above some of the other songs this round.

6.75/10



twosuitsluke: Helms Alee Ė Pinniped

First Impressions:
Letís hope this isnít another Crowbar, ehh? I mean, right off the bat Iím already feeling this more than I felt that one. The riffing feels a bit uninspired and the vocals donít have a ton of presence but the drums are at least kind of interesting. Bass should be higher in the mix for what theyíre going for here, too, at least in my opinion. The style of this song is certainly something I enjoy, and what the song has going for it isnít half bad at all, but. But. Itís sort of just white noise, in a way. I donít feel any emotional presence from this. And itís instrumentally not that impressive. Even the drums, while pretty solid, arenít really notably great. And I can kind of see why the vocals are so low in the mix, since when you can make them out more clearly, theyíre kind ofÖ lacking. The heavier bits right near the end also feel kind of like part of a different song spliced into this one, the guitar tone seems completely different and it creates a weird effect. Which I kind of like, but itís also a bit distracting. I donít know. I donít dislike this like I disliked Crowbar, but this doesnít have any moments as cool as that songís outro.

Final Thoughts:
I donít really think that my opinion of this song has changed dramatically since first listen. Itís a very fine song. Itís very okay. Itís a decent track. It just has no qualities that stand out one way or another.

This likeÖ has a very post-metal vibe to it but doesnít lean in the direction of atmospheric and drawn-out tracks like a lot of post-metal tends to. Which I think is not really a good decision, at least for me. Iíve never been a big Russian Circles or Red Sparowes fan because theyíre basically just ďGod Is An Astronaut But HeavierĒ and, well, God Is An Astronaut is another band Iím not so fond of.

These guys are at least distinct from those bands because they have vocals, and the vocals here are pretty fine. Cleaner during the more melodic bits of the song, harsher during the more aggressive parts. Canít say thereís any sort of mismatch there.

This song feels like it has very little substance to it though. Verse/chorus tradeoff, a bridge, and then the outro is a slight variation on the verse. Granted I do still think the outro is the best part of the song by virtue of being the only thing that really catches my ear and after further relistens doesnít seem so out of place either.

I donít have any real criticisms of this song though other than that it doesnít do much to stand out. Itís still a song I get some enjoyment out of and itís far from the weakest of the pack here, too. But I canít say much more about it beyond that.

7/10



Stadler: Janeís Addiction Ė Three Days

First Impressions:
Well, I did not expect the longest song of the round to come from this band. Those vocal samples at the start areÖ strange but once the bass comes in everything is a lot more sensible. This is a lot more downbeat than other songs Iíve heard from this artist, and thatís certainly interesting if nothing else. I sort of expected something kind of proggy with that length and yeah itís certainly delivering on that. The guitar tone is a bit oddly muddled during the louder moments but the bass comes through clearly so itís a bitÖ strange sonically. Thereís not really a ton of emotional depth here, which is what I tend to like in music like this, but itís got a lot of fun jams and especially those basslines are fun to listen to. Thereís really not a lot that can be said about this one though, for its length itís pretty simple but pretty enjoyable nonetheless.

Final Thoughts:
Iíve never taken this band as one thatís more adapted to slower, atmospheric, long form tracks like this. The first song I heard from them is Stop!, which is a really fun and energetic track which, yes, does have a more atmospheric bridge but itís a smaller part of the song. And I know Oceansize takes their name from the bandís song of a similar name. I donít remember what that song sounds like though.

Anyways this isÖ I canít connect with this emotionally, which I think Iím supposed to, at least for some parts of this? The tone of the singerís voice just isnít one that feels suited to this kind of song. He has this very distinct sound that fits in really well with the more upbeat stuff Iím familiar with but at slower tempos kinds of sounds off-key and doesnít have much emotional depth to it, at least for me.

I do like the way that this uses its instrumental breaks to continuously pick up though. Take the one groove, have it increase in both intensity and tempo as it goes on. That works out well and makes the song really feel like itís progressing while also being fun to listen to. I still think the bass is the highlight of the track, for sure, but the guitar work is solid too. Also that bit near the end that syncopates all the instruments hammering in one note but is broken up by this stinger riff, that works out pretty well for them.

I will say that when this song does get going itís pretty fun to listen to though, for sure. They have a way with good basslines and good riffs as well, I just kind of wish they got to that point a bit faster than they do but itís not a huge deal, at its weakest this song still sounds plenty fine in my books. Itís not something Iím reeeeally into but I do enjoy it for what it is, certainly.

7/10



Luoto: Be'lakor - Sun's Delusion

First Impressions:
For the record I picked a different youtube link than what you gave me because that one sounded suspiciously youtube-compressed and turns out, yep, 360p. Anyways. I think these guys had an album that was getting a lot of acclaim last year, but I donít think I ever checked it out. I will admit that melodic death metal tends to be something where I get the appeal but itís never been something I can get too into. Like, thus far this is pretty enjoyable in its own right but Iím not sure what there is about this that I canít get from other bands. I guess one thing is that it does sound sufficiently dense and I can appreciate it for that; some stuff in this vein seems to lose depth and feels really thin and lacking in punch for it but thatís not the case here. And for all intents and purposes this is pretty dang fine, will score at least a 7 easily, but Iím not sure if itís something Iím going to find really ďgreatĒ.

Final Thoughts:
I think this is the kind of song that suffers a little from the roulette format because I donít feel Iíve quite had the time to really absorb and understand this song. Itís not the longest song of the entire round, but itís probably the most complex and a lot more dense than the songs of similar or longer length here.

One thing for sure is that Iím not too sold on this style of growl. I still think Akerfeldt is the only one whoís pulled off this low death metal style of growl really well, and while this guy isnít bad heís not even close to that level. It doesnít bother me that much since the vocals are never really the focus of the track, though.

Thereís a lot of the triumphant riffing Iíve come to associated with melodic death metal throughout this song but thereís also moments where the guitars breathe a bit more and just hammer in huge chords, and honestly I prefer those moments over the more technical riffing. They have a power than the other moments donít, though the riffing on display here is still pretty solid.

The song handles its transition from a triplet feel to a straight 4/4 feel pretty smoothly and I can definitely give it credit for that. Thereís also a pretty solid clean moment about two-thirds through the song and while itís brief I do enjoy the reprieve it provides and the gentle guitar lines themselves are rather pleasant as well. It feels like the heavy bit that immediately follows doesnít really matter at all, itís brief and doesnít do anything new and mostly just fills space between the clean bit and the piano outro. But I mean itís fine to listen to.

I still canít say I have a particularly solid opinion on this track, but I also definitely canít say itís anywhere close to bad, itís actually pretty dang solid, but just lacks any qualities that really stand out for me. Iíve heard all this done before. And itís definitely no Garden of Fire. But yeah, still a pretty good track on the whole.

7.75/10

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Evermind: Need Ė Tilikum

First Impressions:
Like I said in PMs I know I heard a song off this album before but I wouldnít be able to tell you which one by name. The vocal has that very European timbre of vocals that Iím honestly growing less a fan of the more I hear it, but other than that no complaints from me. Okay I am pretty sure by now this is in fact not the song from this album Iíd previously heard. I donít remember any of this at all, so good. This isÖ a bit heavier than I was expecting from you, but Iím not complaining. The first issue that stands out to me is thatÖ while it all sounds fine, thereís not really much of anything here particularly unique or original, nothing I havenít heard other bands do before. While I do think all the riffs and melodies are pretty solid on their own, the lack of uniqueness does take away from it a little. Just a little, though, since overall I still do enjoy this.

Final Thoughts:
Okay, dude, this is a safe as hell entry. You know it is, I know it is, we can both agree on that, okay? Okay. I mean I totally get why since this is an elimination round and risky stuff is the best way to get cut, so.

That first heavy riff is actually really good. Itís got decent groove to it despite being a 5/4 riff, and itís also definitely sufficiently heavy. Itís the kind of riff that makes a great centerpiece  for a prog metal song, certainly way better than anything DT themselves have been able to write recently.

I do think the song might be a bit too much ďheavy guitar chordsĒ overall though, the riffs change up a bit but for the first few minutes it doesnít feel like thereís really so much else to the song. When the bass/drums/synth driven interlude pops up though I can totally get behind it, the guitar lead is honestly the least interesting this about this section really, couldíve cut it entirely and I wouldnít notice.

The vocals at their cleanest donít appeal so much to me, but the singer provides a rougher edged style throughout a lot of the song to match the intensity of the riffs and that sounds much better to my ears, I can totally get behind that. Thereís even some growls here and there. The only downside is that I donít think thereís a single catchy vocal melody in this entire track, which is one secret to writing a good chorus that a lot of bands seem to overlook. Oh and the female vocals are nice whenever they show up here. Not outstanding, far from bad, given plenty of room to breathe whenever theyíre around. No complaints from me.

I do think overall the song could stand to be a touch more diverse, but I vastly prefer this to instrumental wankery prog metal songs & thereís enough here that I can still definitely get behind this and will probably at least check out the album.

8/10



Train of Naught: Kwoon Ė Schizophrenic

First Impressions:
Okay this intro is giving me Radiohead vibes for some reason. Waiting to see what this evolves into though. Oh man at like 1:30, some pretty dang intense atmosphere going on. Yeah, itís like a heavy post-rock feel that I really enjoy. I feel like the quiet parts are a bit underwhelming compared to the louder moments but that might be because I like the loud bits quite a lot. The vocals are maybe a bit meh though, not really getting anything from them. He should be singing his heart out to match the intensity of the louder moments but heís not and is just getting lost in the mix as a result. This feels maybe a bit light on substance but the substance I do like I like quite a lot.

Final Thoughts:
I feel like you have a better sense of what I like this time around than you did in my first two roulettes, partially due to plug.dj Iíd imagine. Obviously thatís the kind of line that starts out a fairly positive writeup and youíd not be wrong there, because I do think this works quite a bit.

I still do feel that the quieter parts pale a little in comparison to the louder parts, but thatís only due to the lush atmosphere of those louder parts. That combination of tremolo guitar, strings, organ, and ethereal vocals mixed in with the plodding drums and bass creates a really tense and ominous mood and the song only builds up that mood the longer it holds onto it.

I still am not so hot on the vocals in general on their own, though. During the softer moments they fit in well but during the louder moments I would really prefer a bit more intensity to them. This couldíve been really great if there was a particularly evocative vocal performance going on but it feels like even at their most intense the instruments have to restrain themselves to not completely bury the vocals.

And I feel I really am being a bit hard on the quiet moments, because, letís be honest theyíre totally fine on their own. But this song basically just has two parts; ďsoftĒ and ďloudĒ and thatís all it really needs, it just leaves about a third of the song feeling necessarily inferior. And overall I feel this song had more potential than it was actually able to deliver on, but itís still a pretty fine song on its own merits regardless.

8/10



Tomislav95: Windir - Svartesmeden og Lundamyrstrollet

First Impressions:
Well, thatís certainly going to be a fun one in hangman. Right off the bat this just punches you in the face with a buzzsaw black metal guitar line. I can dig it. And the vocals areÖ completely buried. Just the way I like it, Ďcause that means the atmosphere is dense as heck. Like seriously Iím mostly indifferent on this style of vocals so burying them is totally fine by me. I donít really have a ton to say about this other than I dig it, and that the synth isÖ interesting. It keeps things dynamic enough, thereís a few relaxed moments mixed into the intensity. Yeah, dunno what else to say about this other than that I like it. And that the production could be a bit better, but looking into it this is from 1999 so it can be excused a little.

Final Thoughts:
That production is definitely the weakest aspect of this, it does sound a bit too muddy for my tastes & doesnít really match well with the synth sound being used here either. But thatís really a nitpick at best.

As far as the rest of this goes though I feel like I donít really have much to say about it. Itís kind of repetitive at points, but what it drives in are these massive walls of sounds punctuated by very memorable synth lines. Like, I donít even know if I like the synths that much, Iíd probably like this more without them, but at the same time it probably wouldnít stand out so much without them. So ehh. Itís a fair trade.

That bit in the middle with the offbeat synth hits is a really strange interlude though. Itís nice that they broke up the song a little to keep it from feeling too samey, but I canít say Iím actually a fan of that bit because itís just too different to the point of feeling out of place. Maybe itís just because it doesnít sound as good to my ears as the more dense & intense metal on display here. Itís a brief moment of a 9 minute track though so I canít complain too much.

Really as far as black metal goes... Iíve heard better for sure but I still do get a lot of enjoyment out of this. Itís not too repetitive and itís more than sufficiently dense with only that one moment Iím not so fond of, and it just sounds good. The atmosphere is on point, which is one of the things I really look for in good black metal, so itís hard to fault the song for that much overall.

8.25/10



Escaped Impending Doom

Elite: Textures Ė Laments of an Icarus

First Impressions:
So I came within inches of buying an album from this band like 3 years ago when I was still into djent! Not the one this is on, but. Right away this is slamming me in the face as a ďlook at dem polyrhythms broĒ type of song, which is. Well, it sounds kind of cool, sure, Iíll give it that, but it also feels really gratuitous in a ďshow-offyĒ kind of way, and itís not something I feel could hold up interest for very long. And I mean, they donít stick to it for that long. Eugh, those growls though. I am not into them at all. At aaalll. Which is a shame, when thereís moments of clean vocals I actually dig them a lot. Bit in the middle is actually really dense while still pulling off that djenty groove thing. And the break focusing on drums & synth is a cool little moment too. Knowing what I know about this band I went into this prepared for the worst but what I found was surprisingly solid and actually really diverse considering the genre, so props for that if nothing else.

Final Thoughts:
This really core-y style of growls is just. So not my thing. Honestly I never liked it to begin with, itís what put me off listening to BTBAM originally and I still canít think of any examples where I find the style a positive. This guy shouldíve just stuck to his cleans more. They donít have the whiny sounds that a lot of other djent vocalists tend to have, theyíre actually very smooth and pleasant.

A lot of the riffs in this song feel likeÖ a lot of chugging on one note, just varying up the rhythms. Not every riff, but thatís the kind of riff the song seems to focus on the most. And I dunno, it just feels like heaviness for heavinessí sake.

That synth & drums bit though is actually really great and I wish they wouldíve held that vibe longer, or heck, based the song around that instead of the chugging it does. And also Iíll say that the moments of lead guitar, when they do show up, are pretty solid. Nothing mindblowing but they stand out by virtue of not being chuggy nonsense.

I feel like Iím being really down on this song now, but I think itís just a consequence of me not being too into this style of music much anymore. Even warned people away from sending djent in the tastes section of my opening posts (it sort of feels like only a few of you even read that, honestly, you should all go read it). But as far as the genre goes Iíve heard words. But Iíve also heard better.

And the vocals here are the real dealbreaker for me. I think I could tolerate the song without those vocals but they drown out a lot of the positive qualities & thereís not enough cleaner or more melodic moments to make up for them. I find myself only liking the ďlittle momentsĒ this song has to offer but not so much the song as a whole, and while I wouldnít say I dislike it, it doesnít stir up enough positive emotions for me to want to revisit it, either.

6/10



Sacul: Kamasi Washington Ė The Rhythm Changes

First Impressions:
For the record, I have in fact heard a song from this album before (Change of the Guard). But only that song. This starts offÖ a little strange and kind of dissonant really. When the vocals enter, hmmÖ on one hand Iím generally not a huge fan of this style but it works well here. The vibe of the song and the vocals play off each other well & they go together nicely on the larger-sounding chorus as well. The instrumental moments of the song areÖ nice enough, I suppose, but Iíll be the first to admit that I just donít really get jazz. But I definitely prefer the moments with vocals. I donít know, just in general I canít get very hyped for soloing in general, unless itís like Thank You Scientist doing it because they make it fun as hell. This is pleasant enough though and doesnít overstay its welcome and Iíd be totally okay with spinning it several more times.

Final Thoughts:
I honestly have no clue why you sent me this. Iím sure youíre already aware that this is just so far outside of the kind of music Iím interested in and familiar with. And I honestly have no clue how to talk about this.

Well okay, the vocal parts I totally get. Theyíre nice. They sound a bit too old-timey to be something Iíd find myself returning to, but they work. The vocals sound nice enough & match with the music well enough, and the chorus has a lot of swell and power behind it. And the swell of the outro is pretty solid too. If the song was just these parts I wouldnít call it something I really enjoy that much but I wouldíve certainly scored it higher.

The rest of the song is justÖ I can appreciate the skill of the musicians, but thatís just something Iím not interested in really listening to for entertainment. And even then it doesnít even sound that particularly good to me.

In order. The first solo just sounds bad. I think this is actually genuinely badly played and performed. Nothing about it works. The saxophone solo is nice enough. Itís not anything special but itís pleasant to listen to. Third solo. Again this oneís pretty alright though Iím not as big  fan of the tone of this instrument. The keys solo kind of just fades in from the layers beneath it. Not a fan of the tone but itís. An okay solo. Thatís like all I can say about any of this though.

The core instrumentals of the song, the drums and piano, are both okay enough but a bit too unchanging. Iím sure thereís a ton of subtleties going on here but little subtleties donít keep the overall song sounding very diverse. So I donít really care. They at least provide decent groove for the song but thatís about all they do as far as I can care.

OverallÖ I donít mind listening to this as much as some of the other songs this round Iím kind of meh on, itís chill and laidback and thus a lot easier to sit through. But at the same time that mostly relegates it to the domain of background music, because it also doesnít catch my attention as much. Itís reeeeally hard for me to fairly score this though. I donít know. The parts of this I like arenít even especially great, at least for me, soÖ I donít know.

6.25/10



The Eye of the Storm

Bolsters: CHVRCHES Ė The Mother We Share

First Impressions:
Risky move sending the band that got you eliminated in my last roulette as your preliminary round entry for this roulette, isnít it? Right away I am not liking that choppy vocal thing, honestly. Maybe a weird complaint to make but it feels like the vocals are mixed just a bit too loud to the point where they sound disconnected from the music. Like even on the chorus which is supposed to sound huge and climactic, the vocals drown out everything else. I can see this being fairly catchy, a lot more so than the other song Iíve heard from them. Itís a bit fluff-y as far as pop goes but so was Purity Ring and I dug that song. I feel like Iíve mostly been negative in this first impressions bit but I do feel this a lot more strongly than the other song from them at the very least. Seems solid.

Final Thoughts:
I donít know if this is as good as the Purity Ring song from last roulette. For one the vocal hooks arenít quite as good. And I just donít like that choppy vocal effect at all. Havenít ever liked it. My least favorite song across Pure Heroine and its bonus tracks is Million Dollar Bills for that exact same reason.

Anyways. The instrumental groove of the verses is really strong and kind of addictive. Maybe my favorite part of the song. The punchy synths and the straightforward drums, and the vocal rhythms playing off it well. And that chorus hook is actually, really great. I had the title drop line on its own stuck in my head after just a single listen (though I couldnít remember anything else about the song).

The production on this song is also pretty great in general, lots of depth to it but it breathes at the points where it needs to. Itís a really great pop production. I also do like the tone of the vocals here, probably more than the breathy sound of Purity Ring (which I have to keep using as a reference point, shut up).

This writeup feels kind of scattershot but I mean. On the whole I like this a lot. I have no clue what I was talking about with the vocals feeling disconnected from the music in my first impression writeup to be honest, they play off each other really well. Whatever. Screw you, past-Parama. Anyways, this oneís easily getting you to the main roulette. I havenít even done any other write-ups yet but this was one of my favorites the whole way through.

8.5/10



Current Standings:
Bolsters Ė 8.5
Tomislav95 Ė 8.25
Train of Naught Ė 8
Evermind Ė 8
Luoto Ė 7.75
Stadler Ė 7
twosuitsluke Ė 7
Nekov Ė 6.75
home -  6.5
LordCost Ė 6.5


Everyone still in, go ahead and send for round 1. Iím going to send out the round 1 songs to the secondary judge once Iíve posted first impressions tidbits for the round.

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« Reply #174 on: May 20, 2017, 09:12:57 PM »
also, before anyone else says it:
yes, i am aware of the irony of cutting two of the finalists from my first roulette in the prelims as well as ranking the winner of my last roulette close to the bottom. i just. didn't like the songs as much, sorry  :lol