Where does the best Pizza come from?

[bosk1]

It's just amusing that people don't realize that the majority of what we label as "Chinese food" in this country really isn't.  Kinda like folks thinking that people in Japan eat California rolls.

Boston is chock full of "Chinese-American" restaurants, but yeah, if you want to get closer to actual Chinese food, you have to go to Chinatown. Quick rule-of-thumb, if they have chicken feet on the menu, or better chicken tongues, it's a decent place.

Yeah, I hear you.  Or if they have whole chickens and ducks, and/or somewhat-identifiable pig parts hanging up in the window.  Or just my general rule-of-thumb mentioned above for pretty much any ethnic (read: non-American) food:  If I am the only (or at least, one of very few) "American"-looking customers, that's a very good sign.

[El Barto]

It's just amusing that people don't realize that the majority of what we label as "Chinese food" in this country really isn't.  Kinda like folks thinking that people in Japan eat California rolls.

Boston is chock full of "Chinese-American" restaurants, but yeah, if you want to get closer to actual Chinese food, you have to go to Chinatown. Quick rule-of-thumb, if they have chicken feet on the menu, or better chicken tongues, it's a decent place.

Yeah, chicken feet is a good rule of thumb. Mine is if they make soup out of blood.

[cramx3]

But are any of those foods good?  Doesn't sound it 

[bosk1]

Along the lines of what we are discussing in the thread generally (sorry to detour from the pizza discussion), one of my culinary regrets happened when my wife and I were in the northeast.  We went to New York, but then did a short 3-day road trip up to Vermont, down through NH to Boston, and then down the coast.  I was really looking forward to some good N.E. seafood (not necessarily lobster) or other good local food.  My wife was as well.  But my wife was pregnant with our first at the time, and as luck would have it, nausea started hitting her pretty hard during that part of the trip, so we played it VERY safe in terms of food.  That was the only time I have been north of NY, and I'm bummed that I didn't get to do better in the eats department.

[bosk1]

But are any of those foods good?  Doesn't sound it 

I don't care for either of those, personally.  But the point is, if they serve those, they serve the real stuff, and there is plenty of really tasty, authentic food to choose from.  I kinda equate it to going into a Mexican place that serves menudo or albondigas.  I realize that those dishes are not for everybody.  But chances are, if a Mexican place serves those, it is the real deal and there will be plenty of other things on the menu that you either won't find in the more Americanized places or are of substantially better (more authentic) quality.

[Stadler]

Jim's is the freakin' bomb.  Sofa king good.  I've also been told that the roast pork sandwich with broccoli rabe at DiNic's in the Reading Terminal Market is a must have.  I haven't had it yet, but apparently Travel Channel once rated it the "Best Sandwich in America".

Yeah, I skipped it when I was there. Again, I tend to pass on places that are so well hyped. Since sandwiches are the food thing that Phili does well it's not like there aren't a thousand other options. Hell, there are a hundred different sandwiches in RTM alone. Think I went with the Bavarian at Schmitz when I ate at RTM.

Good choice, but in this case, the hype is real.  DiNic's is good (though I'm a sucker for broccoli rabe).  My problem with DiNic's is the logistics; it's a nightmare to wade through the people, so I usually don't. 

Breakfast at RTM is great too.   Scrapple!!!

[JayOctavarium]

[cramx3]

I think I may be getting pizza tonight as well, this thread has inspired me and I've had pizza on my mind all day.  My gf is coming over and we already agreed to get delivery, but havent decided on what.  I know in my mind what I want.

[bosk1]

This thread has inspired me to go to Cram's house tonight.

[King Postwhore]

Sorry, cram, I have to pass.  I just had shrimp cocktail and a field bourbon barreled Imperial Stout. I am satisfied.

[TAC]

   My gf is coming over   

This thread has inspired me to go to Cram's house tonight.

Dude?

What are you, some kind of sicko? 

[King Postwhore]

 

Your old perv.

[cramx3]

 

Had a tortellini alfredo pie last night.  The crust was terrible, but man that sauce and tortellini were delicious.  I don't think I'd order from this place again though, slow delivery and the pizza was also supposed to have grilled chicken, plus as mentioned, the crust was terrible.

[Stadler]

It's just amusing that people don't realize that the majority of what we label as "Chinese food" in this country really isn't.  Kinda like folks thinking that people in Japan eat California rolls.

Boston is chock full of "Chinese-American" restaurants, but yeah, if you want to get closer to actual Chinese food, you have to go to Chinatown. Quick rule-of-thumb, if they have chicken feet on the menu, or better chicken tongues, it's a decent place.

Yeah, I hear you.  Or if they have whole chickens and ducks, and/or somewhat-identifiable pig parts hanging up in the window.  Or just my general rule-of-thumb mentioned above for pretty much any ethnic (read: non-American) food:  If I am the only (or at least, one of very few) "American"-looking customers, that's a very good sign.

In New York, "Little Italy" is slowly turning into "Little China", and only Mulberry Street is really up to the hype (though there are little pockets; Lombardi's (Pizza) and DiPaolo's (Cheese shop) are not on Mulberry.   But if you go to Mulberry, and go SOUTH, across Canal Street, there's almost no Italian, it's all Chinese, and most (not all) have a more authentic Chinese menu.   There's a place that I used to go to (I can't for the life of me remember the name) but they were the real deal.   No "Mongolian Beef" and no "General Tso's Chicken", but a real deal dim sum, though "dim sum" isn't itself indicative of "real Chinese", it's what's served as part of the dim sum.

[Podaar]

Had a tortellini alfredo pie last night.  The crust was terrible, but man that sauce and tortellini were delicious.  I don't think I'd order from this place again though, slow delivery and the pizza was also supposed to have grilled chicken, plus as mentioned, the crust was terrible.

Yeah, this thread got me to. We ordered a Stromboli pie. The bottom of the crust wasn't as crisp as I like and I'm not a fan of the big dough ring on the edge (that tends to make it to the dog's mouth). Other than that, it was excellent and literally looked just like this.

[cramx3]

mmmm sausage peppers and onion pizza.  Great topping combo.

[Podaar]

There was a layer of pepperoni too.

[Prog Snob]

I never liked alfredo sauce. Then again, I never was a fan of cream sauces.

[Podaar]

I never liked alfredo sauce. Then again, I never was a fan of cream sauces.

That's not what I heard, big boy!

[cramx3]

There was a layer of pepperoni too.

Didn't notice that initially. I think pepperoni is the best meat for pizza personally. Chicken works with specialty pies, but for a meat solo on pizza, pepperoni is my easy choice, followed by sausage.

[Prog Snob]

I never liked alfredo sauce. Then again, I never was a fan of cream sauces.

That's not what I heard, big boy!

Big boy, huh? I guess King opened his mouth. Pun intended.

[Podaar]

 

[hefdaddy42]

There's a place that I used to go to (I can't for the life of me remember the name) but they were the real deal.   No "Mongolian Beef" and no "General Tso's Chicken", but a real deal dim sum, though "dim sum" isn't itself indicative of "real Chinese", it's what's served as part of the dim sum.

That's exactly what I'm looking for.

And dim sum.

[El Barto]

There was a layer of pepperoni too.

Didn't notice that initially. I think pepperoni is the best meat for pizza personally. Chicken works with specialty pies, but for a meat solo on pizza, pepperoni is my easy choice, followed by sausage.

Pepperoni on one side. Sausage on the other. Mostly because they each work with different veggies (peppers vs shrooms, in this case).

And while I love alfredo sauce, it doesn't belong on pizza. Besides, I only really like it if I make it myself.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

When I used to work at Pizza Hut, one of my favorite topping combinations was chicken, diced tomato, and jalapeno.  That was a damn good pizza.

[hefdaddy42]

Is Hawaiian pizza kosher with you guys, or blasphemy?

I eat it either way, just curious.

[cramx3]

For me, no such thing as pizza blasphemy.  Hawaiian is not my favorite or my choice ever usually, but it's not bad.

[Podaar]

I'll enjoy an occasional Hawaiian pizza. No blasphemy here.

[Stadler]

There was a layer of pepperoni too.

Didn't notice that initially. I think pepperoni is the best meat for pizza personally. Chicken works with specialty pies, but for a meat solo on pizza, pepperoni is my easy choice, followed by sausage.

Pepperoni on one side. Sausage on the other. Mostly because they each work with different veggies (peppers vs shrooms, in this case).

And while I love alfredo sauce, it doesn't belong on pizza. Besides, I only really like it if I make it myself.

I made pizza last weekend for the fam.   Extra cheese for my stepson, margeurita (sp!) for my wife (sauce, fresh plum tomatoes, fresh mozzarella, and fresh basil), and for me I made a chicken, BBQ and red onion that was very good, a pepperoni and onion that was awesome, and a pancetta and onion that was okay (pancetta is too salty for me in that context).

My favorite from a takeout place is either sausage and/or pepperoni and onions, or green peppers and onions.  I love onions on my pies. 

[bosk1]

Is Hawaiian pizza kosher with you guys, or blasphemy?

I eat it either way, just curious.

I like to argue that it is blasphemy just because it's hard to pass on an opportunity to tongue-in-cheek be a food snob.  But in reality, I don't have a problem with it.  Kinda like Cram said, "no such thing as pizza blasphemy."  Pizza can just be an awesome vehicle for just about anything you like.

But for me personally, I just don't eat it because I think it's gross.  I like all the components separately, but I just don't like the combination together on a pizza.  Kinda like cheese cake.  Generally, I can't stand it (usually, anyway; there are exceptions).  It's one of the few foods that I just don't like.  But, separately, I like all the components.  It's just when you put them together that it doesn't work for me. 

[hefdaddy42]

But for me personally, I just don't eat it because I think it's gross.  I like all the components separately, but I just don't like the combination together on a pizza. 

I get that.

Kinda like cheese cake. 

You know that cheesecake isn't just cheese on cake, right?

[bosk1]

But for me personally, I just don't eat it because I think it's gross.  I like all the components separately, but I just don't like the combination together on a pizza. 

I get that.

Kinda like cheese cake. 

You know that cheesecake isn't just cheese on cake, right?

  Yes.  I OBVIOUSLY meant cheesecake.  Cream cheese is just something I don't like with sweet things.  That combo just doesn't work for me.  Love cream cheese.  I love graham crack pie crust (or, generally, whatever other crust one is using for their cheesecake of choice).  I usually love the strawberry, or chocolate, or whatever other flavor is being used.  But the combo just doesn't work for me.

[MetalJunkie]

Thank God we have a NY pizzeria here in Tulsa. Dude's from NYC and runs a hole in the wall pizza joint right next to his "cash for gold" business.

https://www.unclevinnyspizzas.com

[El Barto]

Bosk nailed it with the Hawaiian pizza thing. Put whatever you want on your pizza. I don't care. Don't much care for it myself, though. Where I draw the line is replacing tomato sauce with any other sauce. At that point it stops being a pizza and I throw the blasphemy card. Afredo and barbecue sauces change it from pizza to, I dunno, some sort of weird pie thing. Sometimes it's perfectly tasty, but it's not pizza.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

I generally agree about sauces (I prefer my pizza sauce a tad on the sweeter side), but the one exception I was okay with - as a teenager working at Pizza Hut, there was a limited time pizza called the steak lover's pizza.  Hunks of steak and onion over a Worcestershire style sauce.  Surprisingly good.