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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #805 on: August 01, 2017, 02:59:18 PM »
Surprised nobody has commented on the album name yet ("Psychotic symphony"). Sounds like straight out of bandnamemaker.com :lol
Sycsa commented on it earlier. He said Pretentious Prog terminology..  :lol
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #806 on: August 01, 2017, 03:06:36 PM »
From Youtube comments:
So, you basically take Tony MacAlpine out of PSMS, and now you have PSSST...  :lol :lol :lol

PSSST would be an amazing band name. Imagine the album titles and how the covers would play on that band name...

PSSST - Listen To This!
PSSST - I've Got A Secret...
PSSST - Guess What?
PSSST - Whatcha Doin'?

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Indeed, thinking better, it would be a really cool name! I can imagine Marco Minnemann in a band called like this :tup
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« Reply #807 on: August 01, 2017, 03:12:18 PM »
Surprised nobody has commented on the album name yet ("Psychotic symphony"). Sounds like straight out of bandnamemaker.com :lol

I'm surprised they didn't go for "Psychotic Psymphony", to be honest.

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #808 on: August 01, 2017, 03:20:29 PM »
Mike Portnoy - Psychotic Drumphony



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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #809 on: August 01, 2017, 03:40:22 PM »
Mike Portnoy - Psychotic Drumphony



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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #810 on: August 01, 2017, 03:40:44 PM »
Big JSS fan. Not sure about 4th, but Marching Our rates pretty high with me, as well. Really missed DS's keys. He was basically ignored in BCC. Really tired of Sheehan. Maybe his prog-stylings will be more to my liking, but I'm not super hopeful. Unfamiliar with Bumblefoot.

Sounds like he's really looking to recreate DT from the samples. Part of it is DS (unmistakable), but the music itself is derivative. Something I'm curious about is how much input the other guys have. THere's a lot of talent in that band. I know MP has said that it's his band, in no uncertain terms, but I wonder how much control he's exercising. Partly because I'd like to hear what the other guys bring, but also because that's not how you keep a group together. Assuming he intends to do more than one album, will JSS or RBT still want to play?

Also, checking YT for the sample thing, it seems there's a different band called Sons of Apollo. Some of the videos are 9+ years old. MP's been around the block, so I figured they're on this, but does seem unusual.
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #811 on: August 01, 2017, 03:41:23 PM »
Mike Portnoy - Psychotic Drumphony



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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #812 on: August 01, 2017, 03:55:40 PM »
My excitement for this has got a lot higher with JSS in the band. Great voice. Can sing the phone book and Maldives it sound great.


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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #813 on: August 01, 2017, 04:03:10 PM »
I'm a big fan of Derek so I'll be checking this out. Not convinced this is going to be some huge thing for these guys yet, I feel like MP has said that many times for a couple of bands since DT, and they're never as constant a priority as they're made out to be.

IMO should have went with new people. Guess he just really enjoys working with Billy or something. Again not a dig against them or anything.

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #814 on: August 01, 2017, 04:23:08 PM »
I think that the people who have been clamoring for MP to do the DT thing again, this is perfect. Sounds like a DT clone band for the most part, but with different vocals.

I was hoping for something different, but we'll see.
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #815 on: August 01, 2017, 04:31:27 PM »
I think that the people who have been clamoring for MP to do the DT thing again, this is perfect. Sounds like a DT clone band for the most part, but with different vocals.

I was hoping for something different, but we'll see.
Well said, but I've been expecting something like this exactly from that band. With those YT samples we can predict some real crazy stuff. Don't know Bumblefoot too much, but I assume that we can count on some 16:7 56:78 1:8 and 9:16 ;)

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #816 on: August 01, 2017, 04:38:34 PM »
this seems like it may resemble G3-like work, than traditional progressive metal.

Still hope Mike manages to work in an all-original music band with either/both John Arch or Daniel Gildenlow someday.

Also would love to see him do a more overt Power-Pop project with Roger Manning and/or Ty Tabor.

But those bands/projects seem like if they ever happen, won't until next decade.

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #817 on: August 01, 2017, 04:45:22 PM »
I think that the people who have been clamoring for MP to do the DT thing again, this is perfect. Sounds like a DT clone band for the most part, but with different vocals.

I was hoping for something different, but we'll see.
I haven't bee clamoring for anything, but a DT clone band with JSS and Sherinian sounds like a fantastic thing in my book.
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« Reply #818 on: August 01, 2017, 04:56:14 PM »
And just follow any of Mike's other bands for different.
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #819 on: August 01, 2017, 05:10:58 PM »
Sons of Apollo... OF FIRE!

Power prog now  ;D

This from BM comments..............


They should have contacted me, I could have done the guitar, bass, drums and vocals.....

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My excitement for this has got a lot higher with JSS in the band. Great voice. Can sing the phone book and Maldives it sound great.



Awesome for the people of the Maldives - bet they weren't expecting a tour.  :metal
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #820 on: August 01, 2017, 05:14:23 PM »
Sons of Apollo... OF FIRE!

Power prog now  ;D

This from BM comments..............


They should have contacted me, I could have done the guitar, bass, drums and vocals.....

Yngwie

 :lol


My excitement for this has got a lot higher with JSS in the band. Great voice. Can sing the phone book and Maldives it sound great.



Awesome for the people of the Maldives - bet they weren't expecting a tour.  :metal
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #821 on: August 01, 2017, 05:18:18 PM »
Mike Portnoy - Psychotic Drumphony



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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #822 on: August 01, 2017, 05:20:25 PM »
Psychosane Symphony?  :lol :lol

Those clips didn't much for me, but I'll wait and see what some people are saying about it once it is released.

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« Reply #823 on: August 01, 2017, 05:28:38 PM »
 I'm going to double back and read the entire thread later. But I'm assuming everybody's already beaten to death how awful that name is.

Seriously? Sons of Apollo? There were choices....and 5guys collectively agreed on SONS OF APOLLO?

Wyld Stallyns would have been less corny.

I love the lineup, and I'm excited for the release....but I'd be way too embarrassed to tell anyone I listen to......that name....

I'll buy the album, but I'm betting they aren't gonna sell a lot of T-shirts.
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #824 on: August 01, 2017, 05:44:05 PM »
Was disappointed that there weren't any surprises with the lineup, and nothing about the lineup other than MP or DS excites me...  But after hearing the sound clips a few times I'm excited.  At first I was thinking it was just cliché metal prog (and there's really nothing in the clip to convince me otherwise), but if I pretend I have never heard of the people in the lineup it sounds great!

I predicted to myself the other day that the announcement would come with a medley clip of songs, clips so short you can't tell anything about the songs, and I was dead on!  I was specifically remembering a clip medley from BC&SL that was completely pointless.

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #825 on: August 01, 2017, 06:37:30 PM »
The sampler was okay, nothing really grabbed me but still looking forward to it.  A lot of obvious DT references in there.  Don't really know anything about Bumblefoot so eager to hear what he brings.

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« Reply #826 on: August 01, 2017, 07:25:49 PM »
I'm going to double back and read the entire thread later. But I'm assuming everybody's already beaten to death how awful that name is.

Seriously? Sons of Apollo? There were choices....and 5guys collectively agreed on SONS OF APOLLO?

Wyld Stallyns would have been less corny.

I love the lineup, and I'm excited for the release....but I'd be way too embarrassed to tell anyone I listen to......that name....

I'll buy the album, but I'm betting they aren't gonna sell a lot of T-shirts.

The band name is bad already, but I think the album name is much worse  ???
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #827 on: August 01, 2017, 08:19:24 PM »
Who cares about a name.. Looking forward to hear the music.. 7 years have passed without listening to that guy doing what he does better than anyone else.. It's about time!.. :metal
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« Reply #828 on: August 01, 2017, 10:02:28 PM »
Who cares about a name.. Looking forward to hear the music.. 7 years have passed without listening to that guy doing what he does better than anyone else.. It's about time!.. :metal

Write drum parts that repeat the same fills and beats he has been using for the past X years? Yeah nobody else does that better. :neverusethis:
On a serious note I'm going to check the album out, if only to appreciate good sounding drums in prog for a change.

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« Reply #829 on: August 01, 2017, 10:16:57 PM »
A part of the samples sound like Planet X a little bit, and that's understandable, considering how Derek's sound played a huge part in that band. I always thought that bands like Planet X would be more successful if they had vocals, so I'm excited for this project. But you're right, the band's name and the album title are as cheesy as it gets.

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« Reply #830 on: August 01, 2017, 10:45:02 PM »
Listened to the sample again, so here are my thoughts...

Snippet 1 - Very cool keyboard line and sound, love the full-band entrance too. Sounds like it'll be the album opener, but if it isn't great song intro (assuming it is one).

Snippet 2 - This definitely sounds more middle-era Dream Theater to me, though the guitars in the second part of this bit are a bit more defining, though we only hear a measure or so of it.

Snippet 3 - The first vocals we hear! They're not bad, but this sounds like a verse or pre-chorus, so there's no chance to hear a soaring vocal melody for the chorus proper, which I can only hope where JSS shines. As it is, there isn't much else to get from this bit.

Snippet 4 - Some more DT-ish noodling, despite all being in 4/4, is still sounds cool. Is that a key and guitar unison I hear?

Snippet 5 - The second bit of vocals, which sounds like a chorus here! Very short bit, but I liked this one more.

Snippet 6 - Now THIS is more like it. Very DT-instrumental-middle-section-ish here, and it sounds pretty good. Love the over-all feel here, and Mike is employing his usual use of splashes for accents that I enjoy.

Snippet 7 - The third vocal bit, and it's a very short one, sounds like a chorus into a bridge, maybe? Or another verse perhaps.

Snippet 8 - MY FAVORITE BIT! I need MORE of this. The guitars are on FIRE and I love the feel of the whole bit. I hope there's more of that on the album!

Snippet 9 - The last piece we get, and of course, it's the end of a song, which isn't anything too special here.

Assuming Mike pieced this together and each snippet is representative of a unique and separate song, we're looking at 9 songs on the album, though I could be WAY off base and there could be anywhere between 3 and 12 songs. Who knows! Either way, I hope it's an album that's at LEAST an hour long, and 80 minutes would be amazing. DS and MP seem really hyped up about this so I hope they made the maximum amount of music for this project, and I hope there's a Making Of/Behind The Scenes documentary with the album as well. I'd love to see how they put everything together, who wrote what, and how it was all done. One of my favorite parts of Neal Morse's documentaries is seeing Mike piece together the epics, and make arrangement suggestions for everyone, as, despite what some may think of his personality and drumming, his ear for arrangements is pretty top-notch. Being a HUGE music fan really shows because he's got a good ear for how music should sound, especially epics. If you listen to Neal's demos for the second Transatlantic album, and then watch the documentary for it and listen to the final songs, you can really get a sense of how much work went into those demos to change them up into the final pieces, and Mike definitely had a lot to do with that. It's actually one of the things I miss most about his absence in Dream Theater - his arranging.

At any rate, the snippets are good, but I'm not going to over-excite myself over them just yet. It is *promising* at best, and I'm sure a single will drop before September, probably when pre-orders will go out. Judging on what that first single may sound like may determine if I pre-order this one or not. At the very least, I can say I am happy with how these songs SOUND in terms of production. There's a lot of punch to the drums and the bass guitar comes through nicely.

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #831 on: August 02, 2017, 06:20:28 AM »
The band covering "And the Cradle Will Rock" during the Ultimate Jam paying tribute to David Z. Mike reunited too with The Winery Dogs and played with Dee Snider. I'm looking for the setlist but haven't found anything yet but zinna.tv streamed the event so I think they will upload the full show today.
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« Reply #832 on: August 02, 2017, 07:22:31 AM »
Listened to the sample again, so here are my thoughts...

Snippet 1 - Very cool keyboard line and sound, love the full-band entrance too. Sounds like it'll be the album opener, but if it isn't great song intro (assuming it is one).

Snippet 2 - This definitely sounds more middle-era Dream Theater to me, though the guitars in the second part of this bit are a bit more defining, though we only hear a measure or so of it.

Snippet 3 - The first vocals we hear! They're not bad, but this sounds like a verse or pre-chorus, so there's no chance to hear a soaring vocal melody for the chorus proper, which I can only hope where JSS shines. As it is, there isn't much else to get from this bit.

Snippet 4 - Some more DT-ish noodling, despite all being in 4/4, is still sounds cool. Is that a key and guitar unison I hear?

Snippet 5 - The second bit of vocals, which sounds like a chorus here! Very short bit, but I liked this one more.

Snippet 6 - Now THIS is more like it. Very DT-instrumental-middle-section-ish here, and it sounds pretty good. Love the over-all feel here, and Mike is employing his usual use of splashes for accents that I enjoy.

Snippet 7 - The third vocal bit, and it's a very short one, sounds like a chorus into a bridge, maybe? Or another verse perhaps.

Snippet 8 - MY FAVORITE BIT! I need MORE of this. The guitars are on FIRE and I love the feel of the whole bit. I hope there's more of that on the album!

Snippet 9 - The last piece we get, and of course, it's the end of a song, which isn't anything too special here.

Assuming Mike pieced this together and each snippet is representative of a unique and separate song, we're looking at 9 songs on the album, though I could be WAY off base and there could be anywhere between 3 and 12 songs. Who knows! Either way, I hope it's an album that's at LEAST an hour long, and 80 minutes would be amazing. DS and MP seem really hyped up about this so I hope they made the maximum amount of music for this project, and I hope there's a Making Of/Behind The Scenes documentary with the album as well. I'd love to see how they put everything together, who wrote what, and how it was all done. One of my favorite parts of Neal Morse's documentaries is seeing Mike piece together the epics, and make arrangement suggestions for everyone, as, despite what some may think of his personality and drumming, his ear for arrangements is pretty top-notch. Being a HUGE music fan really shows because he's got a good ear for how music should sound, especially epics. If you listen to Neal's demos for the second Transatlantic album, and then watch the documentary for it and listen to the final songs, you can really get a sense of how much work went into those demos to change them up into the final pieces, and Mike definitely had a lot to do with that. It's actually one of the things I miss most about his absence in Dream Theater - his arranging.

At any rate, the snippets are good, but I'm not going to over-excite myself over them just yet. It is *promising* at best, and I'm sure a single will drop before September, probably when pre-orders will go out. Judging on what that first single may sound like may determine if I pre-order this one or not. At the very least, I can say I am happy with how these songs SOUND in terms of production. There's a lot of punch to the drums and the bass guitar comes through nicely.

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #833 on: August 02, 2017, 07:22:51 AM »
The band covering "And the Cradle Will Rock" during the Ultimate Jam paying tribute to David Z. Mike reunited too with The Winery Dogs and played with Dee Snider. I'm looking for the setlist but haven't found anything yet but zinna.tv streamed the event so I think they will upload the full show today.
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« Reply #834 on: August 02, 2017, 07:29:47 AM »
I'm going to double back and read the entire thread later. But I'm assuming everybody's already beaten to death how awful that name is.

Seriously? Sons of Apollo? There were choices....and 5guys collectively agreed on SONS OF APOLLO?

Wyld Stallyns would have been less corny.

I love the lineup, and I'm excited for the release....but I'd be way too embarrassed to tell anyone I listen to......that name....

I'll buy the album, but I'm betting they aren't gonna sell a lot of T-shirts.

Sure but this is a genre that includes bands named things like "Dream Theater", "Symphony X", and "Shadow Gallery" so I think they're in good company.

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #835 on: August 02, 2017, 07:46:55 AM »
The band covering "And the Cradle Will Rock" during the Ultimate Jam paying tribute to David Z. Mike reunited too with The Winery Dogs and played with Dee Snider. I'm looking for the setlist but haven't found anything yet but zinna.tv streamed the event so I think they will upload the full show today.
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #836 on: August 02, 2017, 08:37:35 AM »
The band covering "And the Cradle Will Rock" during the Ultimate Jam paying tribute to David Z. Mike reunited too with The Winery Dogs and played with Dee Snider. I'm looking for the setlist but haven't found anything yet but zinna.tv streamed the event so I think they will upload the full show today.
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #837 on: August 02, 2017, 08:44:26 AM »
LOVE the band name.

The snippets don't really work for me (other than to put my mind a LITTLE at ease about JSS), but then again, they never do. I thought the new VH was going to SUCK from the snippets and it was my album of the year (and a contender for my album of the decade).

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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #838 on: August 02, 2017, 08:47:42 AM »
The band covering "And the Cradle Will Rock" during the Ultimate Jam paying tribute to David Z. Mike reunited too with The Winery Dogs and played with Dee Snider. I'm looking for the setlist but haven't found anything yet but zinna.tv streamed the event so I think they will upload the full show today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtvPbblJfDc
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Re: Mike Portnoy's prog metal supergroup: Sons of Apollo
« Reply #839 on: August 02, 2017, 08:54:39 AM »
Who cares about a name.. Looking forward to hear the music.. 7 years have passed without listening to that guy doing what he does better than anyone else.. It's about time!.. :metal

Write drum parts that repeat the same fills and beats he has been using for the past X years? Yeah nobody else does that better. :neverusethis:
On a serious note I'm going to check the album out, if only to appreciate good sounding drums in prog for a change.

I agree. I started noticing MP's lack of diversity in the later DT years. Although I do love the drums in the beginning for In the Presence of Enemies. I think because as he says he doesn't like to practice or improve. It's like Clint Eastwood acting, you wont be disappointed with the performance but don't expect anything different. MP is still in my top ten drummers by the way but mainly because of what he has done not what is doing.