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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #175 on: March 14, 2017, 08:48:07 PM »
Been there done that today, but that song was released in 1995. Mike Keneally has not even released an album back then and Derek was just starting with DT. Ron Thal recorded that in his parents' house's basement.  :rollin

Anyway, here is more recent output, written when his father died:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NzBGmKqDGC8

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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #176 on: March 14, 2017, 08:54:07 PM »
That song wasn't going to be groundbreaking in 1995 either. It was just more with the times.

And how a dude wrote 20 years ago has no impact on how he writes today.


Also, Mike Portnoy......Ron Thal.........Billy Sheehan? RUSSELL ALLEN!?

Happened in 2013 if you're curious what that would sound like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhvUBm0LrRg
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« Reply #177 on: March 14, 2017, 10:17:54 PM »
Also, Mike Portnoy......Ron Thal.........Billy Sheehan? RUSSELL ALLEN!?

Happened in 2013 if you're curious what that would sound like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhvUBm0LrRg

Russell would be great, but he's in the process of creating a new AMOB album. And, please please please, no more Billy Sheehan. He's a great bassist, but he doesn't fit this genere at all. He ruined the PSMS stuff imo.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #178 on: March 14, 2017, 10:24:22 PM »
Also, Mike Portnoy......Ron Thal.........Billy Sheehan? RUSSELL ALLEN!?

Happened in 2013 if you're curious what that would sound like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhvUBm0LrRg

Russell would be great, but he's in the process of creating a new AMOB album. And, please please please, no more Billy Sheehan. He's a great bassist, but he doesn't fit this genere at all. He ruined the PSMS stuff imo.

Oh I know, I was just talking about that video.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #179 on: March 14, 2017, 10:37:12 PM »
Also, Mike Portnoy......Ron Thal.........Billy Sheehan? RUSSELL ALLEN!?

Happened in 2013 if you're curious what that would sound like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhvUBm0LrRg

Russell would be great, but he's in the process of creating a new AMOB album. And, please please please, no more Billy Sheehan. He's a great bassist, but he doesn't fit this genere at all. He ruined the PSMS stuff imo.

Oh I know, I was just talking about that video.

Great you found that video, though, didn't remember it at all.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #180 on: March 14, 2017, 10:42:43 PM »
I'm with Adami that while Thal's output is very well executed, it has a strong "been there done that" feeling. The most interesting song I've heard so far ("Don't know who to pray to anymore") has a very 90s feel to it.
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« Reply #181 on: March 14, 2017, 10:59:49 PM »
BTW, people are wracking their brains about a possible singer. What about the one that sang for LTE and Planet X?
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« Reply #182 on: March 14, 2017, 11:01:23 PM »
BTW, people are wracking their brains about a possible singer. What about the one that sang for LTE and Planet X?

Pretty sure John Myung is busy.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #183 on: March 14, 2017, 11:03:10 PM »
:lol

Seriously though, I would say there's a very good chance this might be instrumental.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #184 on: March 14, 2017, 11:04:55 PM »
:lol

Seriously though, I would say there's a very good chance this might be instrumental.

Yea, I'm mostly interested in seeing who the bassist is. If he picks a standard who has chops or someone with a really cool personality in his playing.



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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #185 on: March 15, 2017, 02:40:47 AM »
Happened in 2013 if you're curious what that would sound like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhvUBm0LrRg

In the time of iPhones being able to make great videos, why do people continue recording stuff with a potato?


I hope the project is not instrumental. That's cool for like one or two albums.. but I'd really like a singer to join.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #186 on: March 15, 2017, 03:00:17 AM »
The deleting of post continues on Mikes board...

Someone asked What the best guess for the guitarplayer was now.

To which I replied: Not gonna put my foot in and risk getting deleted...

Now the question is deleted makig my answer look really strange  :mehlin :rollin

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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #187 on: March 15, 2017, 03:29:39 AM »
The censorship is strong!
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« Reply #188 on: March 15, 2017, 07:41:46 AM »
:lol

Seriously though, I would say there's a very good chance this might be instrumental.

Good point, it might be. Personally I hope not, but you're right there's a good possibility it is.

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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #189 on: March 15, 2017, 07:44:58 AM »
Instrumental would not interest me at all. I think if they want to have a chance at wider appeal (relatively speaking), it needs vocals.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #190 on: March 15, 2017, 07:47:09 AM »
:lol

Seriously though, I would say there's a very good chance this might be instrumental.

And if so, I predict now, it will be a total flop except for a handful of Dream Theater fan and uber prog people. I doubt MP would go through all that trouble to do a very niche project. But who knows.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #191 on: March 15, 2017, 07:48:32 AM »
I feel like an instrumental prog-metal group with Mike and Derek would basically just be PSMS with original tunes. That's why I'm hoping there is a vocalist, so that this is something different.

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« Reply #192 on: March 15, 2017, 07:50:28 AM »
Ron Thal and Mike Portnoy on vocals.

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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #193 on: March 15, 2017, 08:35:51 AM »
:lol

Seriously though, I would say there's a very good chance this might be instrumental.

And if so, I predict now, it will be a total flop except for a handful of Dream Theater fan and uber prog people. I doubt MP would go through all that trouble to do a very niche project. But who knows.
Agreed.  I would likely buy it, but with lukewarm interest.

That 2013 NAMM video is cool, by the way.  It's pretty neat seeing accomplished players messing around and being so loose and so tight at the same time. 

But in any case, as we continue to speculate about who the players will be, just keep in mind that there is no shortage of talent out there in the music world.  I have no doubt that whoever Mike pulled in will have serious chops.  And while there are plenty of examples of talented individuals coming together to make music that somehow doesn't manage to gel, Mike does have a pretty good track record in terms of quality output when he has a fair degree of creative control.  It isn't a "spotless" record, but it's pretty darned good.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #194 on: March 15, 2017, 09:04:54 AM »
I think an instrumental project would be a huge mistake.

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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #195 on: March 15, 2017, 09:26:38 AM »
I think an instrumental project would be a huge mistake.

I think it's a matter of intent. If he just wants a fun project with some people he wants to make music with again, instrumental is fine. If he wants this to be a financially stable thing with a stronger future, then I absolutely think he needs a vocalist.

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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #196 on: March 15, 2017, 10:05:53 AM »
It would be really cool if, for this project, he didn't hand pick a bunch of guys that are in existing bands. There are plenty of session guys with the chops and talent to play at this level... guys that haven't found their niche or band yet. It would be really interesting to hear MP with some really talented guys who haven't had a voice yet.

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« Reply #197 on: March 15, 2017, 10:06:50 AM »
I think an instrumental project would be a huge mistake.

Yes, with Derek onboard, it might get compared to Planet X. Which has come out with pretty good albums and actually became a showcase for Virgil Donati's superdrummer abilities.

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« Reply #198 on: March 15, 2017, 10:55:52 AM »
The deleting of post continues on Mikes board...

Someone asked What the best guess for the guitarplayer was now.

To which I replied: Not gonna put my foot in and risk getting deleted...

Now the question is deleted makig my answer look really strange  :mehlin :rollin

I wonder if MP actually takes time to go through every post to see which ones violate his rule of "I'm the only one who can post info about this, if you do, I'll block you".
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« Reply #199 on: March 15, 2017, 11:10:00 AM »
I love MP but the fact that he still doesn't seem to understand how the internet works boggles my mind. I think he means well but he really comes off bad in a lot of these situations. Kinds reminds of people who take naked pictures of themselves and then freak out when they get leaked. What the hell do they expect is going to happen?

This will be a pass for me if it's instrumental.

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« Reply #200 on: March 15, 2017, 11:11:59 AM »
Kinds reminds of people who take naked pictures of themselves and then freak out when they get leaked. What the hell do they expect is going to happen?

Well, first off, that's something COMPLETELY different. This would be a whole different situation had someone hacked into Mike's phone, stole the video, and posted it without his consent.

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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #201 on: March 15, 2017, 11:14:38 AM »
I think an instrumental project would be a huge mistake.

Yes, with Derek onboard, it might get compared to Planet X. Which has come out with pretty good albums and actually became a showcase for Virgil Donati's superdrummer abilities.

I definitely agree on that point. I feel PlanetX was so out there in terms of skill, it would be pointless to tread that same ground, because frankly MP would fall short in that comparison anyway. He had to massively simplify that Planet X tune when they played it live.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #202 on: March 15, 2017, 03:01:37 PM »
All of this talk of Bumblefoot, for some reason, reminded me of the fact that Buckethead was in Guns N' Roses for awhile in 2000-2002 and Bumblefoot joined in about 2006.

I only mentioned that because I think it would be kind of funny to have Buckethead in MP's band because that dynamic would be funny to me. I've heard before that Buckethead is not easy to deal with, so I don't think it would go too well, but maybe the end result would be good.

Buckethead's great, one of my favorite players.  I used to have the entire Chinese Democracy album with all of BH's solos intact before they replaced parts with Bumble, and it was better than what ended up being released.  He's an odd guy but a brilliant player musician.

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« Reply #203 on: March 15, 2017, 03:13:03 PM »
I wish Buckethead did more band projects, but unfortunately he seems to have really isolated himself the past couple years.

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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #204 on: March 15, 2017, 03:29:32 PM »
The deleting of post continues on Mikes board...

Someone asked What the best guess for the guitarplayer was now.

To which I replied: Not gonna put my foot in and risk getting deleted...

Now the question is deleted makig my answer look really strange  :mehlin :rollin
It amuses me that on Mike's own board you can't discuss his past band or his present band, but only the ones middle ones, and I'm not even sure all of those are fair game. Bosk should change the rules here so that we can discuss Petrucci, Myung and Kevin Moore, but Mangini, JLB and Rudess are all off limits. Portnoy and Sherinian can be discussed on odd/even days, but only he knows which is which.
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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #205 on: March 15, 2017, 05:01:21 PM »
All of this talk of Bumblefoot, for some reason, reminded me of the fact that Buckethead was in Guns N' Roses for awhile in 2000-2002 and Bumblefoot joined in about 2006.

I only mentioned that because I think it would be kind of funny to have Buckethead in MP's band because that dynamic would be funny to me. I've heard before that Buckethead is not easy to deal with, so I don't think it would go too well, but maybe the end result would be good.

Buckethead's great, one of my favorite players.  I used to have the entire Chinese Democracy album with all of BH's solos intact before they replaced parts with Bumble, and it was better than what ended up being released.  He's an odd guy but a brilliant player musician.

Holy crap.  You USED TO have that?  Man, I didn't know such a thing existed.  Would kill to hear that.

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« Reply #206 on: March 15, 2017, 05:39:33 PM »
All of this talk of Bumblefoot, for some reason, reminded me of the fact that Buckethead was in Guns N' Roses for awhile in 2000-2002 and Bumblefoot joined in about 2006.

I only mentioned that because I think it would be kind of funny to have Buckethead in MP's band because that dynamic would be funny to me. I've heard before that Buckethead is not easy to deal with, so I don't think it would go too well, but maybe the end result would be good.

Buckethead's great, one of my favorite players.  I used to have the entire Chinese Democracy album with all of BH's solos intact before they replaced parts with Bumble, and it was better than what ended up being released.  He's an odd guy but a brilliant player musician.

Holy crap.  You USED TO have that?  Man, I didn't know such a thing existed.  Would kill to hear that.

Yeah, I would to.  Lost them in a computer crash, and something happened to the backup discs.  There were different leaks, including some instrumental demos.  I know Shackler's Revenge was one that had a totally different solo on it than on the actual album, and that's one I've never been able to find again.

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« Reply #207 on: March 15, 2017, 06:11:13 PM »
The deleting of post continues on Mikes board...

Someone asked What the best guess for the guitarplayer was now.

To which I replied: Not gonna put my foot in and risk getting deleted...

Now the question is deleted makig my answer look really strange  :mehlin :rollin
It amuses me that on Mike's own board you can't discuss his past band or his present band, but only the ones middle ones, and I'm not even sure all of those are fair game. Bosk should change the rules here so that we can discuss Petrucci, Myung and Kevin Moore, but Mangini, JLB and Rudess are all off limits. Portnoy and Sherinian can be discussed on odd/even days, but only he knows which is which.

 :lol :lol :lol

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Wait, are we talking about Mike Portnoy or Donald Trump?

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Re: Mike Portnoy Progressive Metal Supergroup
« Reply #208 on: March 15, 2017, 06:17:43 PM »
All of this talk of Bumblefoot, for some reason, reminded me of the fact that Buckethead was in Guns N' Roses for awhile in 2000-2002 and Bumblefoot joined in about 2006.

I only mentioned that because I think it would be kind of funny to have Buckethead in MP's band because that dynamic would be funny to me. I've heard before that Buckethead is not easy to deal with, so I don't think it would go too well, but maybe the end result would be good.

Buckethead's great, one of my favorite players.  I used to have the entire Chinese Democracy album with all of BH's solos intact before they replaced parts with Bumble, and it was better than what ended up being released.  He's an odd guy but a brilliant player musician.

Holy crap.  You USED TO have that?  Man, I didn't know such a thing existed.  Would kill to hear that.

Yeah, I would to.  Lost them in a computer crash, and something happened to the backup discs.  There were different leaks, including some instrumental demos.  I know Shackler's Revenge was one that had a totally different solo on it than on the actual album, and that's one I've never been able to find again.

Kind of weird Bumble does solos on the few songs Buckethead wrote. 

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« Reply #209 on: March 15, 2017, 06:23:10 PM »
Perhaps he has to pay a fee or something, which is likely what DT had to do when they took the albums covers of the full albums they covered and altered them a bit.