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Re: DT dropping "modern" metal influences post-Portnoy
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2017, 11:25:51 PM »
Yes, the end of Three Days was definitely a blast beat, it was just used in a very unusual context, which was awesome.

I didn't even notice it until this thread.
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Re: DT dropping "modern" metal influences post-Portnoy
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2017, 01:11:28 AM »
About the blast beat in ANTR, here are a few interesting videos:

https://youtu.be/9uK8Fg-tJis?t=13m57s - MP recording it in the studio. He recorded that section separately, punch in/out, but you can still see and hear that he struggled with it. No way he'll be able to perform it live, given how demanding the song is overall.

https://youtu.be/6j1D-cnlj64?t=14m22s - A live version where he simplifies the double bass, playing just the quarter note. Still a struggle.

https://youtu.be/-vaDfcKzLbY?t=1m51s - Here's how Derek Roddy played it during the auditions, JP was very impressed.

https://youtu.be/CJw-8kXBRjI?t=13m27s - Finally, Peter Wildoer's version, as he was preparing for the auditions. He enhances it with some cool, technical fills too.
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Re: DT dropping "modern" metal influences post-Portnoy
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2017, 02:41:13 AM »
While there may not be a lot of modern influences on DT12, I find JP's 7-string tone on that album kind of djent-y.

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Re: DT dropping "modern" metal influences post-Portnoy
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2017, 12:33:39 PM »
Yes, the end of Three Days was definitely a blast beat, it was just used in a very unusual context, which was awesome.
This is the difference. ANTR was surprising for those familiar with DT and Portnoy because Portnoy had never done a blast beat there. But for anyone listening to that song who didn't know better (and knew what a blast beat was) it would make sense. Three Days was unexpected and he wasn't doing it because it was the "metal" thing to do.. It wasn't an obvious spot to use a blast beat.  I wish DT would do stuff like the end of Three Days more.

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Re: DT dropping "modern" metal influences post-Portnoy
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2017, 12:55:20 PM »
14:32-14:40 approximately. When the snare goes fastest.

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Re: DT dropping "modern" metal influences post-Portnoy
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2017, 04:28:53 PM »
While there may not be a lot of modern influences on DT12, I find JP's 7-string tone on that album kind of djent-y.

Nah. Djent tone is very tight and noise-gated, meanwhile JP's DT12 tone is drowned in chorus.

The closest thing DT has done to djent is Raw Dog's intro.
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Re: DT dropping "modern" metal influences post-Portnoy
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2017, 04:34:35 PM »

not true, petrucci recently said something about really liking Muse/animals as leaders/some other new/recent bands i forgot the names of..

Periphery was probably one, it's his nephew's band.

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Re: DT dropping "modern" metal influences post-Portnoy
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2017, 04:51:38 PM »
DT12 definitely had djent influences. Maybe not in the tone, but there was some obvious djent-y riffing and JP said Periphery was an influence.

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Re: DT dropping "modern" metal influences post-Portnoy
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2017, 04:57:01 PM »
DT12 definitely had djent influences. Maybe not in the tone, but there was some obvious djent-y riffing and JP said Periphery was an influence.

IT does have a few djenty riffs for sure, but the tone is just too muddy for it to sound like djent imo.
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