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Re: The DTF P/R Food discussion club v. Ketchup on steak is tremendous
« Reply #140 on: March 02, 2017, 12:24:50 PM »
You know what I like at Sheetz?

Everything.

This.  I honestly have tried so many different things there, it's almost a necessary stop when I see one when I drive through PA and I had a bad experience the first time I ever went to a Sheetz where my sandwich literally fell apart in my hand because they microwaved the bread.  I was so disgusted, but I tried it again like a year later and the place changed so much and the quality was so much better and they haven't failed me since.  I actually convinced the girl I was dating that it was better than Wawa too and she didn't believe me until we walked out with a bag of goodies that were really good.

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« Reply #141 on: March 02, 2017, 12:39:31 PM »
I definitely like the food there too, but it seems to take a while to get it, so most of the time I would rather just hit a different fast food joint.

Also, most of the time I go to Sheetz, I am travelling, and just running in to get a drink or a snack so I can hit the road again.

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« Reply #142 on: March 02, 2017, 05:47:32 PM »
I've only been into two Sheetz and there was this distinctive smell. Like a mix of incense and BO. Good store to take a leak in, though.

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« Reply #143 on: March 03, 2017, 07:58:15 AM »
Sheetz, fuck yea.  I love that, way better than Wawa or Quickcheck here in NJ.

I LOVE Wawa.  I drove from northern CT down to Philly to see Marillion with a buddy, but I had to drive back that night.    First stop?   Wawa for a large Italian hoagie.   I was covered in shredded lettuce and oil and vinegar by the time I stopped for a Dunkin Donuts coffee in New York, and the car reeked of "onion", but gosh was it worth it.  Not Sarcone's (a deli in Philly) but pretty damn good.

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« Reply #144 on: March 03, 2017, 08:14:47 AM »
I was covered in shredded lettuce

That right there is enough to make me want to punch most "hoagie" purveyors right in the mouth.  They put 3x the amount of lettuce that any decent sandwich requires.  Same for Taco Bell.  Or any place that puts lettuce on shit that isn't a salad.  STOP IT.  Anytime I order shit from Taco Bell, I have to tell them light lettuce, in order to get a properly proportioned taco.

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« Reply #145 on: March 03, 2017, 08:20:35 AM »
^ Same with Jimmy Johns. If I don't say easy on the lettuce, it just tastes like I'm eating a salad.

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« Reply #146 on: March 03, 2017, 08:46:48 AM »
F*ck that right in the ear.  If I want a salad (and I don't), I'll order a salad.  If I'm getting a hoagie (sandwich, sub, whatever the hell the call it in your (royal) neck of the woods), I want meat and cheese to stand out above all else.  I'd go so far as to say most hoagies often have a hair too much bread for my liking.  I routinely end up with a plate full of bread scraps that I've torn off as I eat.

That said, tomato is, for me, damn near integral to the overall makeup of a good hoagie or a taco.

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« Reply #147 on: March 03, 2017, 08:56:23 AM »
Anytime I order shit from Taco Bell, I have to tell them light lettuce, in order to get a properly proportioned taco.

Lettuce and taco should never be in the same room.
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« Reply #148 on: March 03, 2017, 08:58:38 AM »
F*ck that right in the ear.  If I want a salad (and I don't), I'll order a salad.  If I'm getting a hoagie (sandwich, sub, whatever the hell the call it in your (royal) neck of the woods), I want meat and cheese to stand out above all else.  I'd go so far as to say most hoagies often have a hair too much bread for my liking.  I routinely end up with a plate full of bread scraps that I've torn off as I eat.

That said, tomato is, for me, damn near integral to the overall makeup of a good hoagie or a taco.

When I make a sandwich at home - something I do a fair amount - I almost always have tomato, and almost never have lettuce on it.  If I do, it's one leaf.   

Sandwich making is an art, and an art we're losing.  I enjoy Subway, but my beef with them is the same as Coz's.   No thought to the 'art' of the sandwich.  It's all bread!   Conversely, I don't like the sandwich that is two slices of white bread, and an entire cow in between.  I almost NEVER buy an "overstuffed" sandwich.  MAYBE an open-faced hot turkey or roastbeef can be made that way, but not a deli sandwich.   

Sarcone's, in Philly has the right mix, almost exactly.  (They're on 9th Street, about two blocks north of Christian Street). 

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« Reply #149 on: March 03, 2017, 09:09:17 AM »
Lettuce and taco should never be in the same room.

It needs a little bit.  Not much, but a little bit.  I get that they probably do it different out in CA, being closer to Mexico and all, but tacos without lettuce are rare in my experience.  Hell, in order to get tomato at Taco Bell, you have to get supreme.  The regular taco is meat, lettuce, and cheese.

Sandwich making is an art, and an art we're losing.  I enjoy Subway, but my beef with them is the same as Coz's.   No thought to the 'art' of the sandwich.  It's all bread!

I get around this at Subway by ordering a BMT.  Which is about the most meat you can get on a Subway sandwich without ordering extra meat.  Any time I make any type of sub at home, I scoop a lot of the bread out of the inside of the roll.  Less bread and it allows you to cradle the remaining bread AROUND the stuff inside, so it's less likely to fall out.

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Re: The DTF P/R Food discussion club v. Ketchup on steak is tremendous
« Reply #150 on: March 03, 2017, 09:12:44 AM »
Here's a proper taco my friend...



Raw onions, cilantro, salsa, and a lime wedge are the only condiments needed.
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« Reply #151 on: March 03, 2017, 09:19:39 AM »
That's a proper taco in one of them places where you have to dress up.  Or in a non-'murcanized Mexican restaurant.  The lack of any visible cheese makes me weep for humanity.

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« Reply #152 on: March 03, 2017, 09:25:28 AM »
Cheese (other than maybe cotija) and lettuce are generally Americanized versions.  And I'm okay with that.  I can enjoy a good Americanized taco as much as an authentic one.  But for a good authentic taco, Das Chef is, as always, correct.  Real tacos just can't be beat.  And while the plating in the pic might suggest "fancy"/"upscale," aside from the plating, that is exactly what you will get from a real taco truck or taco truck in "Little Mexico" in any city out here that has real Mexicans doing it up like they would south of the border.
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« Reply #153 on: March 03, 2017, 09:29:41 AM »
But 'Murca.

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« Reply #154 on: March 03, 2017, 09:30:31 AM »
What is America supposed to grate again, if not cheese for their tacos?
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« Reply #155 on: March 03, 2017, 09:35:07 AM »
But 'Murca.

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« Reply #156 on: March 03, 2017, 09:37:01 AM »
99.9%  of time, I use it tongue in cheek.

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Re: The DTF P/R Food discussion club v. Ketchup on steak is tremendous
« Reply #157 on: March 03, 2017, 09:38:53 AM »
Oh but you can have cheese on a traditional taco. Cotija...or queso fresco...

And here is a pic of a fancy dress up taco joint in the bay area...

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« Reply #158 on: March 03, 2017, 09:40:34 AM »
:lol  That's pretty much what I was saying. 

EDIT:  Quick story, RJ:  My wife and I got married on Bay Farm Island (Harbor Bay Club, to be specific).  We did it all on a shoestring budget, so we were both VERY involved in the setup and the behind-the-scenes stuff ourselves.  I was on my way in early to help with the setup.  So me and my best man are driving in and come off 880 at High Street to drive into Alameda.  It is about 8:30 or so in the morning, I think.  And as we see the taco truck sitting on the dirt lot at the corner across from the Shell gas station (I'm sure you know the intersection), we of course think, "well, we HAVE TO stop."  So there we were, 8:30 or so in the morning, standing there in the dirt in our tuxes chowing down on tacos.  :lol  It was just such a "20-something year old dude" moment, if you know what I mean.
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« Reply #159 on: March 03, 2017, 09:42:29 AM »
Lettuce tastes awful on tacos.  Whenever possible, I get cilantro and onions instead.  But I can't lay off the cheese and sour cream, so it's still a partial gringo taco.
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« Reply #160 on: March 03, 2017, 09:45:46 AM »
Sour cream is acceptable, it's a standard in Mexican cuisine.
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« Reply #161 on: March 03, 2017, 09:46:07 AM »
Here's a proper taco my friend...



Raw onions, cilantro, salsa, and a lime wedge are the only condiments needed.
Found a great tacqueria here in Raleigh.  You order you taco with whatever filling you want (fish, beef, carnitas, al pastor, whatever), and they have a little topping bar so you top it yourself.

Lettuce isn't even an option.  They wind up looking pretty much like that picture.  And they are SO GOOD.

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« Reply #162 on: March 03, 2017, 09:48:12 AM »
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« Reply #163 on: March 03, 2017, 09:48:57 AM »
"Cozmo Goes To Taco Bell" sounds like the title of an excellent B-movie.  :lol
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« Reply #164 on: March 03, 2017, 09:50:29 AM »
Or an 80s/90s cover band.
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« Reply #165 on: March 03, 2017, 09:51:17 AM »
I think we just solved two threads at the same time.  :lol
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« Reply #166 on: March 03, 2017, 09:52:13 AM »
 :lol

:lol  That's pretty much what I was saying. 

EDIT:  Quick story, RJ:  My wife and I got married on Bay Farm Island (Harbor Bay Club, to be specific).  We did it all on a shoestring budget, so we were both VERY involved in the setup and the behind-the-scenes stuff ourselves.  I was on my way in early to help with the setup.  So me and my best man are driving in and come off 880 at High Street to drive into Alameda.  It is about 8:30 or so in the morning, I think.  And as we see the taco truck sitting on the dirt lot at the corner across from the Shell gas station (I'm sure you know the intersection), we of course think, "well, we HAVE TO stop."  So there we were, 8:30 or so in the morning, standing there in the dirt in our tuxes chowing down on tacos.  :lol  It was just such a "20-something year old dude" moment, if you know what I mean.

Awesome. I'm sure there's been a million such moments in Oakland/Alameda
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« Reply #167 on: March 03, 2017, 09:52:56 AM »
I've eaten so much mexican food already since being in LA this week.  Olvera Street is right next to my work so I walk there for lunch and get authentic mexican food.  The tacos do look like Lone Star's picture and they are delicious.  But I also very very much enjoy tacobell and other versions of tacos.  I mentioned earlier in this thread that, to me, it's pretty hard to mess up a taco.  Also lettuce works on tacos IMO but only a little, sort of like the amount of cilantro in the picture and NOT what taco bell gives. 

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« Reply #168 on: March 03, 2017, 09:56:00 AM »
*goes to Taco Bell*
Have you had the Naked Chicken Chalupa?  If so, what did you think?

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« Reply #169 on: March 03, 2017, 09:56:37 AM »
I haven't, but I'm told it's awesome.

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« Reply #170 on: March 03, 2017, 09:56:52 AM »
I enjoyed it.

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« Reply #171 on: March 03, 2017, 09:58:26 AM »
:lol

:lol  That's pretty much what I was saying. 

EDIT:  Quick story, RJ:  My wife and I got married on Bay Farm Island (Harbor Bay Club, to be specific).  We did it all on a shoestring budget, so we were both VERY involved in the setup and the behind-the-scenes stuff ourselves.  I was on my way in early to help with the setup.  So me and my best man are driving in and come off 880 at High Street to drive into Alameda.  It is about 8:30 or so in the morning, I think.  And as we see the taco truck sitting on the dirt lot at the corner across from the Shell gas station (I'm sure you know the intersection), we of course think, "well, we HAVE TO stop."  So there we were, 8:30 or so in the morning, standing there in the dirt in our tuxes chowing down on tacos.  :lol  It was just such a "20-something year old dude" moment, if you know what I mean.

Awesome. I'm sure there's been a million such moments in Oakland/Alameda

I'm sure you are right.  Most of the food trucks up in my area now have tried to go the "gourmet" route.  Hard to find the authentic Mexican street food taco truck up here that are so prominent and ubiquitous around the Bay Area, and I miss that.  There are great taquerias here where you can get the same thing.  But its' the same without really being "the same," if you know what I mean.
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« Reply #172 on: March 03, 2017, 10:00:43 AM »
*goes to Taco Bell*
Have you had the Naked Chicken Chalupa?  If so, what did you think?

I thought it was pretty good.  The chicken was spicier than I thought it would be. 

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« Reply #173 on: March 03, 2017, 10:03:16 AM »
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Have you had the Naked Chicken Chalupa?  If so, what did you think?

I thought it was pretty good.  The chicken was spicier than I thought it would be.
Same.  Unfortunately, it is apparently only a limited time thing.  :(

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« Reply #174 on: March 03, 2017, 10:05:03 AM »
I wasn't crazy about it.  THe texture of the chicken is weird and without beef in the middle it felt like something was missing.  But I did enjoy the green sauce and spicyness of it.  I had it twice to confirm my feelings on it  :lol