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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2017, 05:24:51 PM »
Ever since my GF died 9 months ago, I fear nothing or no one except God.
Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear, there is nothing more devastating. I can relate with how you must feel, my wife of 20 years passed a year and a half ago. Nothing else in life seems to matter. I couldn't even pick up my guitar and play it for at least a year. Hang in there, only time makes it get a little easier to live with.
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2017, 08:53:52 AM »
Ever since my GF died 9 months ago, I fear nothing or no one except God.
Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear, there is nothing more devastating. I can relate with how you must feel, my wife of 20 years passed a year and a half ago. Nothing else in life seems to matter. I couldn't even pick up my guitar and play it for at least a year. Hang in there, only time makes it get a little easier to live with.

I'm also sorry for your loss.  It's amazing how the loss of someone so close can change your perspective.  Nothing looks or feels the same anymore and I'm not afraid of dying.  It does slightly get easier with time.  Thanks for the reply.  I appreciate it.
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2017, 11:07:01 AM »
Sorry for both of your losses.  I can't imagine how difficult that must be. 

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2017, 11:12:30 AM »
Sorry for both of your losses.  I can't imagine how difficult that must be.

Yep...as am I. Losing a loved one is devastating and I hope you both can/have found some peace.
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2017, 11:15:18 AM »
I appreciate it very much!  We just got to be strong and move forward, unfortunately this cruel world doesn't give you time to grieve. The bills keep coming, the pressure is always on. Thank God for good friends and music, and my dog who is always by my side! 😎
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2017, 07:36:39 PM »
Getting Alzheimer's

At least you won't realize you fear it...

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2017, 05:59:00 AM »
The probability that there is nothing after death. The nothingness scares me.

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2017, 06:50:02 AM »
Getting Alzheimer's

At least you won't realize you fear it...

Seeing my grandmother go down with Dementia - I'm pretty sure she knew what was happening and was incredibly angry and scared.

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2017, 06:58:18 AM »
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I'm afraid of what KB posted and then deleted.

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2017, 07:00:15 AM »
The probability that there is nothing after death. The nothingness scares me.

Definetely an uncomfortable concept, I would think for most people.
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2017, 08:17:22 AM »
Getting Alzheimer's

At least you won't realize you fear it...

Who's the girl in your sig?  I might fear her. 

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2017, 08:23:11 AM »
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2017, 08:26:09 AM »
The probability that there is nothing after death. The nothingness scares me.

Definetely an uncomfortable concept, I would think for most people.


Wouldn't you prefer nothing - instead of infinite torture. I don't think such a place exists though. I don't see how - if there is a God - how he could allow anyone to go there.

My bro thinks if you are not "saved" after death - then you cease to exist. Full Stop. Which is preferable to an eternity of absolute misery.

I think such a place was invented by catholics to strike absolute terror into their congregation. A means of control and power.


Besides - it would be like going to sleep. You aren't aware of being asleep. You wouldn't be aware of not existing. Definitely preferable to me...

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2017, 09:03:45 AM »
Of course it's preferable given those two options. But the idea of hell isn't a scary thought to me since I don't believe in it. That leaves me with eternal nothing, which is a difficult concept to wrap ones mind around. I wouldn't say I fear it, but it is a slightly uncomfortable idea.
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2017, 09:55:59 AM »
I dunno. I've had some nights where the thought of just no longer existing sounds really enticing...

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2017, 10:10:23 AM »
I have no doubt that heaven and hell are real.  What scares me is that I can choose the latter and give up the assurance of the former.  If I could somehow persuade myself of the possibility of mere nonexistence after death, I don't know that I would find it scary as much as just depressing.
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2017, 10:12:12 AM »
You have no doubt that a concept that can in no way even remotely be proven is real?

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2017, 10:17:46 AM »
I don't believe in concepts.  I believe when can be proven.  If you want to have the debate where one side predictably plugs their ears and refuses to acknowledge the evidence because it doesn't fit into their preconceived notions, that can be taken to P/R, where it has been done to death already.  But that isn't the place of this thread, so please stop with the derailment and veiled insults.  That isn't what this thread is for.
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2017, 10:27:45 AM »
I think such a place was invented by catholics to strike absolute terror into their congregation. A means of control and power.

The 'idea' and 'popular' presentation of Hell is absolutely made up and inaccurate. It's largely based off of Dante's Inferno and has been glamorized and pitched as this 'burn in hell' type of thing....when in all actuality as explained in the Gospels Hell is 'simply' spending eternity outside of God's presence. That's it. Me being a Christian...that's scary enough in itself....but....you can get real P/R'y once we start heading down that road and as Bosk says, it's been done to death in P/R....but this idea of fire and brimstone and a pitchforked devil is contrived.
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2017, 10:29:48 AM »
Yeah. Last word from me on the subject - but I really don't think that if there is a God ( and I do think there is - the Universe is too awesome to be an accident ** ) -

I don't think he'd allow any souls to end up there for eternity.

The idea of just ceasing to be is much preferable.







** I sat up in bed one time with a terrifying thought - that if The Big Bang Theory is correct - then that essentially means that absolutely every single thing in existence -

the universe, all the planets, humans etc. Absolutely everything that has ever existed - is a massive accident.

I think that's too scary a thought to be the truth.

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2017, 10:54:02 AM »
** I sat up in bed one time with a terrifying thought - that if The Big Bang Theory is correct - then that essentially means that absolutely every single thing in existence -

the universe, all the planets, humans etc. Absolutely everything that has ever existed - is a massive accident.

I think that's too scary a thought to be the truth.

Why is that scary?

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2017, 11:00:18 AM »
The idea that nothing that exists was ever meant to be here ?

That everything we know exists solely because of a fluke ?

iunno m8 it was scary to me.

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2017, 11:10:07 AM »
Dying with regrets.  Or, possibly related, a German word I learned a few years ago: torschlusspanik.  Literally fear of closing doors, or something like that, with regard to moving through life as opportunities become closed to you.

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« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2017, 12:08:03 PM »
Why would the big bang specifically contradict purpose?
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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2017, 12:15:34 PM »
Why would the big bang specifically contradict purpose?

It doesn't. You can just say The Big Bang was the first necessary step in a very complex process that's required for a purpose. You could argue that in order to have "purpose" in the first place, you need to first have something. You can't do great things (have a purpose) as a people without a modern society. You can't build a modern society without buildings. You can't have buildings without strong materials. You can't have strong materials until you know how to combine elements. You can't have elements without atoms. You can't have atoms without protons, electrons, and neutrons. You can't have protons, electrons, or neutrons without space time. You can't have space time without the Big Bang. All you have to say is that the Big Bang was the required catalyst to lead to whatever purpose your heart desires to exist. I'm not saying I believe in a purpose or that the existence of matter means there is one, but it'd be easy to work into an argument.

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2017, 12:27:34 PM »
Dying with regrets. 

This is a good one.  After waisting 9 years of my life with someone who I ended up really disliking, I felt like I regretted those 9 years or more specifically the last 4 of which when things started to get miserable.  I told myself after that I would be doing everything I can to live a life with no regrets.

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2017, 03:14:45 PM »
"Someone once told me the definition of hell: on your last day on earth, the person you are will meet the person you could have become."

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« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2017, 04:35:48 PM »
I don't fear hell fire because it doesn't make any sense. How could a loving God burn somebody for eternity for being bad for a short lifetime. There would be no justice there, being that God's attributes are Love, Justice, Wisdom, and Power.
 I loving father would not put a child's hand on a burner for misbhaving. A loving God wouldn't dream of torturing somebody for eternity. The lake of fire in the Bible is symbolic meaning distruction. Anything burnt by fire completely ceases to exist. So enemies of God won't burn for eternity, they just won't have life anymore. In otherwords, cease to exist.
 That doesn't mean that many bad people (that had a good heart deep down inside) who have all ready died won't have a second chance. The bible sais there's going to be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous. They will be able to start fresh under God's kingdom arrangement.
 I could explain so much more about this but like Bosk said, it belongs in the P&R forum..
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« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2017, 07:11:20 AM »

** I sat up in bed one time with a terrifying thought - that if The Big Bang Theory is correct - then that essentially means that absolutely every single thing in existence -

the universe, all the planets, humans etc. Absolutely everything that has ever existed - is a massive accident.

I think that's too scary a thought to be the truth.

Chino responded to this, but I want to as well; I believe - very strongly - that there is a god of some sort.   To Architeuthis's point, though, we have to be very careful not to over-anthropomorphize him/her/it.   This is one of my beefs with Hitchens; he posits there is no God, then uses a bunch of human constructs, and human actions/activities to allegedly debunk it.  I believe "religion" is man-made, and subject to the flaws and imperfections of man, and therefore not proof at all of any omnipresent being.  The other common way to "debunk" god is to attack the assertions of the bible - also a man-made document.  I personally believe god set this universe in motion - ala a top or gyroscope - and much like a scientist, largely let's it "happen".   That doesn't mean there isn't purpose, that doesn't mean that the "scientist" can't tweak the experiment, but I also don't believe that "God" gives a crap whether that wide receiver catches that pass or that basketball player nails that shot at the buzzer.  He might, he might put things in motion to allow that person to do those things, but I don't think the hand of god guides that ball into the hoop.   I could be dead wrong - I know no more than anyone else - but I think we have to account for all those things that DON'T fit our belief system, as much as we have to account for those things that do.

TL;DR:  I don't think the existence of the Big Bang at all means there is no god, or that there is no "purpose".   

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #64 on: March 03, 2017, 07:13:44 AM »
I always use TV as a device to get away for the reality of life.  Escapism.
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« Reply #65 on: March 03, 2017, 07:19:49 AM »

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I totally agree that Religion is bad and should only reflect on the people that follow it / abuse it / enforce it than the God it is supposedly based on.

If someone blows up a building and says God made them do it - then that person is probably a nutcase.

It's like when they find out a murderer listened to metal before a killing spree. It wouldn't even get mentioned if all they found in his record collection was Beethoven.

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« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2017, 07:42:33 AM »
"Someone once told me the definition of hell: on your last day on earth, the person you are will meet the person you could have become."

The person you "are" is the person you have become.  Don't you mean the person you "were"?
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« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2017, 08:12:11 AM »
“Has The Person you Were Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like The Person You Could Have Become?"

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Re: What are your fears?
« Reply #68 on: March 03, 2017, 09:09:48 AM »

Bees. Fucking bees, wasps, yellowjackets. Fuck them all. One gets within 20 feet of me and I turn into a whimpering little girl. And lord help us all if one ends up in my room.




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« Reply #69 on: March 03, 2017, 12:57:52 PM »
Dying with regrets. 

This is a good one.  After waisting 9 years of my life with someone who I ended up really disliking, I felt like I regretted those 9 years or more specifically the last 4 of which when things started to get miserable.  I told myself after that I would be doing everything I can to live a life with no regrets.
I spent almost 6 years with someone who was in almost every way incompatible, and we were like a miserable old married couple within a year or two.  I don't view it as time wasted.  I learned a lot about what I want and don't want in a relationship from those 5+ years and the few single years afterward.  That knowledge has served me well, and may be the most valuable thing I've learned in life.  No regrets there.