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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #105 on: March 09, 2017, 01:30:13 PM »
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Defensive tackle Calais Campbell will sign with the Jacksonville Jaguars as previously reported, despite a late push by the Denver Broncos to get him to sign with their team instead.

"Chose Jags because Tom Coughlin is a winner, they brought in two other big free agents and they also have been drafting well the last few years. They are a young and hungry defense that I want to lead," he told ESPN's Josina Anderson.

No disrespect to Mr. Coughlin... but the Broncos, and John Elway are winners as well. But if he wants to lead a "younger" defense, so be it.

Speaking of Denver, I do like the Leary signing. Just what they needed.

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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #106 on: March 09, 2017, 01:54:28 PM »
Wow! Texans banish Brock to Cleveland!
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=1-18865511

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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #107 on: March 09, 2017, 02:16:50 PM »
Shame. I was hoping that number 12 would be heading NE to NE. Though I suppose it's still possible. If I understand correctly, they might have just been looking to gain some draft picks, but that's contingent on finding somebody willing to pay Osweiller.

edit: And on a side-note, how demoralizing must it be when your GM gives up a second round pick just to get you off of the team?
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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #108 on: March 09, 2017, 02:30:52 PM »
First Torrey Smith, and now  Alshon Jeffery. Eagles are giving Wentz plenty of weapons.

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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #109 on: March 09, 2017, 02:40:58 PM »
Shame. I was hoping that number 12 would be heading NE to NE. Though I suppose it's still possible. If I understand correctly, they might have just been looking to gain some draft picks, but that's contingent on finding somebody willing to pay Osweiller.

edit: And on a side-note, how demoralizing must it be when your GM gives up a second round pick just to get you off of the team?

If I remember correctly, the owner for Houston pushed for Osweiller even though the GM and Coach and didn't want him.
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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #110 on: March 09, 2017, 05:18:02 PM »
Cleveland won't keep Osweiler, but I still chuckled today when I heard about them trading for him.

I read that NO said hell no to trading Cooks.  He wouldn't be a good Patriot anyway.  He pitched a fit last year in a game where he caught one ball and the Saints won huge.  He'd cry every game where he gets two targets and the Patriots win.

Philly needed some WRs who can catch, so those are great signings.

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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #111 on: March 09, 2017, 06:09:43 PM »
Damn!

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Cleveland's picks over the next two drafts now look like this:

2017: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6

2018: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7
And yet you still have to assume they'll be just as bad 4 years from now, except for having a beast of a DE whose soul has been crushed.
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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #112 on: March 09, 2017, 08:50:50 PM »
Gonna be pretty hard for them to recover from that missing 2017 7th round pick though.
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« Reply #113 on: March 10, 2017, 07:15:38 AM »
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Cleveland's picks over the next two drafts now look like this:

2017: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6

2018: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7
And yet you still have to assume they'll be just as bad 4 years from now, except for having a beast of a DE whose soul has been crushed.

 :lol Yes, somehow, they will still be bad...

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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #114 on: March 10, 2017, 06:52:11 PM »
New England got Cooks, and it didn't cost them Butler!

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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #115 on: March 10, 2017, 07:05:13 PM »
The Pats have been ridiculously busy. For them.
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« Reply #116 on: March 10, 2017, 07:25:20 PM »
And not doing the normal Pats thing. 

We will see about Butler.   Weird situation.
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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #117 on: March 10, 2017, 07:27:50 PM »
They paid a fortune for that dude from the Bills. Very un-Belichick.

And yes, the Butler thing is weird.
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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #118 on: March 11, 2017, 05:24:40 AM »
Glad to see Julius Peppers back with the Panthers. He isn't the player he once was, but he still has enough juice to enhance our defense.
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« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2017, 06:31:58 AM »
I'm not surprised that NE gave up what they did to get Cooks.  As a fantasy football player, I remember Cooks' stock going through the roof in August 2015 simply because Belichick said after a preseason game that he is happy they don't have to play Cooks twice a year; it was clear then that Belichick was very high on him as a player.  Cooks is a selfish diva, but if anyone can get him to calm down and accept a role as a team guy who might not catch a lot of balls some weeks, it's Belichick.

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« Reply #120 on: March 11, 2017, 11:33:36 AM »
It always seemed to me that being a receiver on the Patriots requires a slightly different skillset. It seems to be the smart guys that run perfect routes that work out, and if Bill sees that in somebody that also has good YAC potential I'm pretty happy with it. What I'm not so crazy about is his contract. He costs next to nothing this year, but it's his last year. If he excels, and there's every reason to assume he will, this is probably a first round pick for a 1 year player. They could exercise his 5th year option, but the clock's ticking on that one.

Still, I'm liking the way this is all going so far. NE was the odds favorite to win again next year the day after the superbowl. They haven't gone backward and they might actually wind up being a better team when it's all said and one. If they keep Butler they will have replaced Logan Ryan with Gilmore and added a long ball threat.
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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #121 on: March 12, 2017, 09:28:12 AM »
Glad to see Julius Peppers back with the Panthers. He isn't the player he once was

So you might say Peppers is a little um..salty?




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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #122 on: March 13, 2017, 08:09:33 AM »
Talk is Pats trading Butler to N.O. for reciever Cooks.  Sounds like they couldn't come to a deal and want to get something in return. 

I don't like it at all.

Oh I'd love this deal for New England. Cooks would be a hell of a weapon for Brady, while Butler is replaceable, especially to someone like Coach Belichick.
Agreed. If they get Gilmore then they can go either way and neither would bother me. The truth is that Butler is going to cost more than he's willing to pay next year, so getting a good receiver for him now makes sense.

And besides, at this point how can anybody question Bill? It's gotten to the point that the bigger the deal the more excited I am for it, even if it seems to make no sense. If he cut Brady and signed Cutler I'd just assume he knows 3 things I don't and it'll all work out for the best.  :lol

edit: And valence can be either negative or beneficial to winning championships.

I've long ago given up worrying about Belicheck's defense.   They've survived - nay, thrived - after the loss of many great DBs including Talib, Revis... they'll survive without Butler, especially if he's playing diva.   He should know better at this point.    Other than Brady, and MAYBE Gronk, there are no stars on the Pats.  Hell, even Gronk is more a personality off the field than a "star" on the field. 

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« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2017, 08:34:16 AM »
With that offense they will always have a chance to get to the SB but the last 2 times they've own they had better than average defense.  Balance wins SB's.  Ask the Colts.
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« Reply #124 on: March 15, 2017, 01:42:22 PM »
And the Pats resigned Dont'a Hightower.  Now we'll see about the Bulter situation.
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« Reply #125 on: March 15, 2017, 02:13:22 PM »
And the Pats resigned Dont'a Hightower.  Now we'll see about the Bulter situation.

Ah, I was hoping the Steelers would get him, but I guess he was just using other teams for leverage?

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« Reply #126 on: March 15, 2017, 02:49:47 PM »
And the Pats resigned Dont'a Hightower.  Now we'll see about the Bulter situation.

Ah, I was hoping the Steelers would get him, but I guess he was just using other teams for leverage?
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« Reply #127 on: March 15, 2017, 03:00:27 PM »
Makes sense, I got excited for a minute yesterday when he visited Pittsburgh. That dude would have made a big difference on the Steelers D.

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« Reply #128 on: March 15, 2017, 03:52:34 PM »
So, Ezekiel Elliott...Man of the Year?
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« Reply #129 on: March 15, 2017, 07:32:13 PM »
Makes sense, I got excited for a minute yesterday when he visited Pittsburgh. That dude would have made a big difference on the Steelers D.

They do need to find a replacement for JH soon, but I think that Bud Dupree is on the verge of becoming a star on the other side. Getting Cam back healthy along with Tuitt and Hargrave coming along should help the linebackers look a lot better.
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« Reply #130 on: March 16, 2017, 07:19:50 AM »
Makes sense, I got excited for a minute yesterday when he visited Pittsburgh. That dude would have made a big difference on the Steelers D.

They do need to find a replacement for JH soon, but I think that Bud Dupree is on the verge of becoming a star on the other side. Getting Cam back healthy along with Tuitt and Hargrave coming along should help the linebackers look a lot better.

I think they need a good inside LB partner for Shazier, IMO Hightower could have been that. Outside LB and D-line don't concern me as much at the moment.

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« Reply #131 on: March 16, 2017, 07:27:06 AM »
So, Ezekiel Elliott...Man of the Year?

Boob of the year?
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« Reply #132 on: March 16, 2017, 07:00:44 PM »
So, Ezekiel Elliott...Man of the Year?

Boob of the year?

 :lol :lol

I've noticed it is barely being talked about on the major sports networks.  I wouldn't be surprised if Jerry Jones used his power to shut down talk of it, so his star RB gets a pass for what was technically, from a legal standpoint, assaulting a woman.

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« Reply #133 on: March 17, 2017, 08:17:53 AM »
 :rollin  JJ doesn't have the power to shut down the sports media.  I'm sure there's a lot more interesting things to talk about besides Zeke not being able to keep his hands off a woman who's already trying to expose herself anyway.
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« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2017, 01:28:03 PM »
I'm surprised the Giants were able to keep JPP  :metal

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« Reply #135 on: March 17, 2017, 03:12:03 PM »
JJ doesn't have the power to shut down the sports media.  I'm sure there's a lot more interesting things to talk about besides Zeke not being able to keep his hands off a woman who's already trying to expose herself anyway.

JJ probably put him up to it!
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Re: 2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty
« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2017, 06:33:46 PM »
I'm surprised the Giants were able to keep JPP  :metal

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« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2017, 06:41:17 PM »
Raiders are looking to sign Marshawn Lynch! haha
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« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2017, 07:13:44 PM »
The Raiders have been the NFL's senior league for the last 15 years.
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« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2017, 09:03:49 PM »
The Raiders have been the NFL's senior league for the last 15 years.
Longer than that, I think! :lol