Author Topic: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Black Clouds & Silver Linings - Round 2 (Read 629 times)

The Letter M · « **on:** February 11, 2017, 02:10:21 PM »

Black Clouds & Silver Linings
A Nightmare To Remember
Wither
The Shattered Fortress
The Best Of Times
The Count Of Tuscany

Round 1's Results:
A Nightmare To Remember 4 (10%)
A Rite Of Passage 13 (32.5%)
Wither 3 (7.5%)
The Shattered Fortress 8 (20%)
The Best Of Times 10 (25%)
The Count Of Tuscany 2 (5%)

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06. A Rite Of Passage

With nearly a third of the total 40 votes, AROP has passed on, tho not without seeing every other song get at least 2 votes each! Looks like either of the MP-penned tracks may be the next to go...

-Marc.

Adami · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2017, 02:11:40 PM »

Count.

Randaran · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2017, 02:25:54 PM »

Nightmare

Adami · « **Reply #3 on:** February 11, 2017, 02:26:56 PM »

I feel like, since I've been voting for Count since round one, that this will be the most futile survivor for me.

krands85 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 11, 2017, 02:30:53 PM »

The Best Of Times

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #5 on:** February 11, 2017, 02:52:21 PM »

Shattered Fortress

Crow · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2017, 03:17:02 PM »

wither or not you hate me is up to you

MirrorMask · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2017, 03:17:26 PM »

Shattered Fortress again

Tomislav95 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2017, 03:34:25 PM »

The Best of Times

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2017, 03:36:38 PM »

Wither again

BlackInk · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2017, 03:51:02 PM »

The Best of Times.

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2.
3.
4.
5. A Rite of Passage
6. The Best of Times

Serah Farron · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2017, 04:06:56 PM »

Count again.

TheCountOfNYC · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2017, 07:31:05 PM »

Wither

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2:
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5: Wither
6: A Rite of Passage

Adami · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2017, 07:38:00 PM »

Quote from: Serah Farron on February 11, 2017, 04:06:56 PM

Count again.

SOMEONE ELSE IS VOTING FOR COUNT!?!?! NICE!

loud noises

Serah Farron · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2017, 07:43:32 PM »

Quote from: Adami on February 11, 2017, 07:38:00 PM

Quote from: Serah Farron on February 11, 2017, 04:06:56 PM
Count again.

Yeah, not fond of the lyrics and some parts of it.

I'm invited to your party right?

SOMEONE ELSE IS VOTING FOR COUNT!?!?! NICE!

loud noises

CharlesPL · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2017, 07:50:20 PM »

The Best Of Times

? · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2017, 12:14:27 AM »

Quote from: CharlesPL on February 11, 2017, 07:50:20 PM

The Best Of Times

aprilethereal · « **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2017, 02:23:47 AM »

Mladen · « **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:52:48 AM »

Any reasons behind disliking The Best of times, guys?

The Shattered Fortress

wolfking · « **Reply #19 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:56:10 AM »

Quote from: ? on February 12, 2017, 12:14:27 AM

Quote from: CharlesPL on February 11, 2017, 07:50:20 PM
The Best Of Times

MirrorMask · « **Reply #20 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:02:55 AM »

Quote from: Mladen on February 12, 2017, 03:52:48 AM

Any reasons behind disliking The Best of times, guys?

I didn't vote for it and I don't mind the song, but I've always read basically the same comments: lyrics are too cringeworthy and the music isn't that special, people only like JP's ending solo.

home · « **Reply #21 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:46:40 AM »

A Nightmare to Remember, just like this survivor

BlackInk · « **Reply #22 on:** February 12, 2017, 05:27:23 AM »

Quote from: Mladen on February 12, 2017, 03:52:48 AM

Any reasons behind disliking The Best of times, guys?

The Shattered Fortress

Besides the lyrics being a bit too weakly written, I think they are too specifically emotional for MP that I cannot relate since I wasn't there for any of the events he mentions and because I have no personal relationship to either MP or his father. When he wrote A Change of Seasons, it's wasn't just about his mother's death, but also what he learned from it and how it affects the rest of his life. But The Best of Times feels more like he's just reminiscing about events that none of the listeners were there for and therefore has pretty much zero relevance.

That is my main reason. Musically it's alright, but I think it's a bit dull. The outro solo is fine, but it drags on for too long.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 12, 2017, 08:15:36 AM »

wither

Evermind · « **Reply #24 on:** February 12, 2017, 09:29:34 AM »

The Best of Times

Mladen · « **Reply #25 on:** February 12, 2017, 12:05:16 PM »

I've always found The Best of times really beautiful musically, especially the main theme. Even the other theme (the one that turns into the chorus during the second half) is so strong that it could have been the main one. The more energetic bits are also great, it's truly groove-heavy.

I personally don't mind the lyrics. It's also very cool when lyricists include information and details in a way that there's no chance you can relate to them directly, they're more of an open diary and paint a picture that's more personal than universal. The only other lyricist in DT with that kind of approach was Kevin Moore. "I wanna talk about lifelong mistakes, and you can tell your stepfather I said so" comes to mind. Very interesting.

MirrorMask · « **Reply #26 on:** February 12, 2017, 12:16:48 PM »

I remember the first time I heard the song, it started all slow and mellow and I was like "well, of course it's slow and melanchonic, it's for his deceased father"... and then out of nowhere kicks in the real intro the song, all upbeat and with an Images and Words feel, brought a big smile to my face, I like to think that's what happened with Mike's father when he heard the song.

BlackInk · « **Reply #27 on:** February 13, 2017, 06:36:33 AM »

Quote from: Mladen on February 12, 2017, 12:05:16 PM

I personally don't mind the lyrics. It's also very cool when lyricists include information and details in a way that there's no chance you can relate to them directly, they're more of an open diary and paint a picture that's more personal than universal. The only other lyricist in DT with that kind of approach was Kevin Moore. "I wanna talk about lifelong mistakes, and you can tell your stepfather I said so" comes to mind. Very interesting.

I can certainly enjoy specifically personal lyrics as well. In fact, when done right, they're my favorite kind. Like, I mentioned A Change of Seasons in my earlier post. "Preparing for her flight, I held with all my might, fearing my deepest fright, she walked into the night, she turned for one last look, she looked me in the eye, I said I love you, goodbye", is one of the best lyrics ever, but it's not like I was there for that event. But "the case of the missing dog" does nothing for me. There's nothing there or in the rest of the song for me to latch on to.

It's hard to say why for certain, but I never felt that there was any weight to The Best of Times.

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