Things that I find mildly irritating v.2

[pg1067]

I posted this last year in the work gripe thread.

I'm playing the asshole card this morning.

The vegetarians in my department.

We have two vegetarians in our department of 34 people. Both are vegetarians not because of ethical animal concerns, but because of fitness goals. Once a quarter we have a quarterly birthday party and on days like today we'll set aside an hour and a half for a potluck. Every. Single. Person. that contributes to these things feels like they have to accommodate these two guys. Every item in conference room so far is vegetarian. We're having six large pizzas delivered, and THREE of them are veggie (5 if you count the two pies that are just cheese). What the fuck? I get it, there are vegetarians in the office, but do the two of them warrant HALF (5) of our greasy goodnesses to not have meat on them? Only one of the pizzas has meat and it's a pepperoni. 1 pizza with meat for a department of 34. It's a damn shame cause this place makes slamming meat based pizzas.

One guy a few cubes down was just bragging "I brought in cauliflower wings". If I didn't tell you otherwise, you'd swear they were boneless chicken wings. Go fuck yourself, Mitch. You're not fooling anyone with that shit.

/rant

I stand by what I said.

 

[Cool Chris]

Chino, thank you for spelling it out better than I did.

Like I said, sometimes people uncomfortably accommodate us (often not though, we're usually just ignored and can't eat anything) and we don't like it.

Interesting point. I am sure many in today's society feel the need to go out of their way to accommodate everyone. Of course I am a bit of a bastard so I cannot relate to this at all.  I agree Chino shouldn't be mad at the two guys in the office unless there is some implicit or explicit expectation all potluck items meet their requirements.

By "us" do you mean "vegetarians" as in "people who choose to limit what they eat?" If so, you are not being ignored. They are being given the opportunity to eat the same thing as everyone else. If that goes against their beliefs, dietary goals, religious convictions, that is sort of on them. My wife has a close personal friend who cannot eat gluten and many other things, and always brings her own food when we have dinners/social gatherings. She is uncomfortable asking a host, or having a host insist on preparing a meal for several people around one person. I swear I recall a very wise person once say something to the effect of "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

[Chino]

Are you mad at the vegetarians? Like I said, sometimes people uncomfortably accommodate us (often not though, we're usually just ignored and can't eat anything) and we don't like it. Unless your two people were demanding accommodations, then I wouldn't be angry at them. Not that you are. I dunno.

I'm not mad at them at all.

[Phoenix87x]

Things that piss me off 10/13/18

When ticketmaster charges me a fee to print my tickets at home

[Adami]

Are you mad at the vegetarians? Like I said, sometimes people uncomfortably accommodate us (often not though, we're usually just ignored and can't eat anything) and we don't like it. Unless your two people were demanding accommodations, then I wouldn't be angry at them. Not that you are. I dunno.

I'm not mad at them at all.

[Ben_Jamin]

When guys just pull the door while you're in the stall, instead of knocking.

[chknptpie]

2.  People who feel the need to jog or walk in the street.  That's what the fucking sidewalk is for!

Actually running on sidewalks can lead to injury. The concrete is much harder than rubberized asphalt and hard on the joints. Also, if the sidewalk has driveways, the constant change/unevenness can cause unnecessary stress on the body while running.

[TAC]

2.  People who feel the need to jog or walk in the street.  That's what the fucking sidewalk is for!

Actually running on sidewalks can lead to injury. The concrete is much harder than rubberized asphalt and hard on the joints. Also, if the sidewalk has driveways, the constant change/unevenness can cause unnecessary stress on the body while running.

You know what else is unnecessary stress on the body? Running into a Chevy.

The road is for cars, not for someone trying to achieve their fitness goals. Go to the track at the local high school. Get out of the f'n road.

[IDontNotDoThings]

2.  People who feel the need to jog or walk in the street.  That's what the fucking sidewalk is for!

Actually running on sidewalks can lead to injury. The concrete is much harder than rubberized asphalt and hard on the joints. Also, if the sidewalk has driveways, the constant change/unevenness can cause unnecessary stress on the body while running.

Oh, so that's why my feet hurt so much

[Snow Dog]

2.  People who feel the need to jog or walk in the street.  That's what the fucking sidewalk is for!

Actually running on sidewalks can lead to injury. The concrete is much harder than rubberized asphalt and hard on the joints. Also, if the sidewalk has driveways, the constant change/unevenness can cause unnecessary stress on the body while running.

Oh, so that's why my feet hurt so much

The feet hurting could also be from footwear or your running stride, or something completely different musculoskeletally. But the harder surfaces can also contribute.

I’ll stick to sidewalks on busier streets if one is available, but I use both surfaces when running in my neighborhood. I will move back to the sidewalk for an oncoming car, though. The asphalt is just easier to use without having to dodge sidewalk cracks, curbs, and overhanging trees, especially near the end of a longer run of 10+ miles.

While on the subject of running, I’m mildly irritated by the fact that it seems every pair of men’s lightweight running shorts now comes with those built in underwear liners. From Nike and Under Armor to even the cheaper stuff at Walmart, it’s hard to find a pair without them. They’re quite uncomfortable for me to wear, so I just cut them out completely. If I wanted panties in my shorts, I’d raid my wife’s underwear drawer.

[lordxizor]

When guys just pull the door while you're in the stall, instead of knocking.

I'd rather they pull than knock. Pulling shows them it's locked and I'm in there without me having to say anything.

[JayOctavarium]

I posted this last year in the work gripe thread.

I'm playing the asshole card this morning.

The vegetarians in my department.

We have two vegetarians in our department of 34 people. Both are vegetarians not because of ethical animal concerns, but because of fitness goals. Once a quarter we have a quarterly birthday party and on days like today we'll set aside an hour and a half for a potluck. Every. Single. Person. that contributes to these things feels like they have to accommodate these two guys. Every item in conference room so far is vegetarian. We're having six large pizzas delivered, and THREE of them are veggie (5 if you count the two pies that are just cheese). What the fuck? I get it, there are vegetarians in the office, but do the two of them warrant HALF (5) of our greasy goodnesses to not have meat on them? Only one of the pizzas has meat and it's a pepperoni. 1 pizza with meat for a department of 34. It's a damn shame cause this place makes slamming meat based pizzas.

One guy a few cubes down was just bragging "I brought in cauliflower wings". If I didn't tell you otherwise, you'd swear they were boneless chicken wings. Go fuck yourself, Mitch. You're not fooling anyone with that shit.

/rant

I stand by what I said.

Hey now... buffalo cauliflower is pretty damn good.

[Stadler]

When guys just pull the door while you're in the stall, instead of knocking.

I'd rather they pull than knock. Pulling shows them it's locked and I'm in there without me having to say anything.

I don't either way.   If they can't be bothered to take a short glance to see if there's feet in there, I can't waste the breath I'm holding because the guy next to me didn't courtesy flush. 

[Stadler]

Mildly irritating:  people that don't courtesy flush.

[King Postwhore]

Being around people that are irritated and they will let you know even though you are waiting just like them.

[pg1067]

2.  People who feel the need to jog or walk in the street.  That's what the fucking sidewalk is for!

Actually running on sidewalks can lead to injury. The concrete is much harder than rubberized asphalt and hard on the joints. Also, if the sidewalk has driveways, the constant change/unevenness can cause unnecessary stress on the body while running.

You know what else is unnecessary stress on the body? Running into a Chevy.

The road is for cars, not for someone trying to achieve their fitness goals. Go to the track at the local high school. Get out of the f'n road.

Amen!

I doubt the difference between asphalt and concrete is so significant as to make it worth the risk of getting planted face first into said asphalt.  I guess I don't mind so much if a jogger wants to run in the street and then hop onto the sidewalk when a car is coming, but some of these clowns think there's room for parked cars on each side and two cars and them....

[Train of Naught]

Having to dodge bikers when walking down the sidewalk. Where I live it seems to be commonly accepted to bike on sidewalks and the excuse I have heard the most is that they do it because the bike roads are sometimes made of cobblestone which is hard to ride a bike on. So you choose to ride a bike, but you will put others' safety at stake because you don't feel safe on your designated lane? I wouldn't even mind if they did it carefully, slowing down when nearing and/or passing by a pedestrian, but these people more often than not go full speed and don't look out for pedestrians at all. Every day when I'm walking to work I have to be on the lookout for bikes flying by to prevent getting bumped into. It's mostly how they act like they're in the right and everyone has to step aside for them even though they are on the wrong lane.. ugh

*end of rant*

[ReaperKK]

I got something else to add to the biker issue; in our downtown we now have these electric scooters everywhere for rent and people have no idea how to ride them.

[Chino]

The internal hiring process at my company.

My company has a huge page dedicated to jobs that are open and haven't been made public yet. They like to retain internal talent. There are two I would really like to apply for, but as soon as you submit an application, regardless of whether or not you're even asked to interview, your manager and your manager's manager receive a notification that you've done so. How fucking stupid is that? I feel like it discourages people from applying. I certainly don't want to. I don't want my manager thinking/knowing that I'm looking to bail. I feel like it complicates things.

[lordxizor]

The internal hiring process at my company.

My company has a huge page dedicated to jobs that are open and haven't been made public yet. They like to retain internal talent. There are two I would really like to apply for, but as you as you submit an application, regardless of whether or not you're even asked to interview, your manager and your manager's manager receive a notification that you've done so. How fucking stupid is that? I feel like it discourages people from applying. I certainly don't want to. I don't want my manager thinking/knowing that I'm looking to bail. I feel like it complicates things.

My company has similar policy of notifying your current manager when you apply for an internal position. I agree it's really stupid. It gives your current boss a chance to essentially sabotage your chances right out of the gate. It make more sense to me to only notify them when you're the final candidate and they're doing their final checks on you.

[TAC]

The internal hiring process at my company.

My company has a huge page dedicated to jobs that are open and haven't been made public yet. They like to retain internal talent. There are two I would really like to apply for, but as you as you submit an application, regardless of whether or not you're even asked to interview, your manager and your manager's manager receive a notification that you've done so. How fucking stupid is that? I feel like it discourages people from applying. I certainly don't want to. I don't want my manager thinking/knowing that I'm looking to bail. I feel like it complicates things.

My company has similar policy of notifying your current manager when you apply for an internal position. I agree it's really stupid. It gives your current boss a chance to essentially sabotage your chances right out of the gate. It make more sense to me to only notify them when you're the final candidate and they're doing their final checks on you.

That makes the most sense.In my company, when you apply for another position, the manager actually has to write a recommendation.

[Stadler]

I don't disagree with the comments here, but - especially in a large organization - think about it from a managers situation, and think about how encouraging opacity in the organization can be detrimental.   

[ReaperKK]

The internal hiring process at my company.

My company has a huge page dedicated to jobs that are open and haven't been made public yet. They like to retain internal talent. There are two I would really like to apply for, but as soon as you submit an application, regardless of whether or not you're even asked to interview, your manager and your manager's manager receive a notification that you've done so. How fucking stupid is that? I feel like it discourages people from applying. I certainly don't want to. I don't want my manager thinking/knowing that I'm looking to bail. I feel like it complicates things.

Thank god we don’t have that in our company.

[lordxizor]

I don't disagree with the comments here, but - especially in a large organization - think about it from a managers situation, and think about how encouraging opacity in the organization can be detrimental.   

I get that, but if I were applying for an external position, my boss wouldn't know until I put in my resignation. Somewhere in the middle of the two extremes seems best to me.

[cramx3]

I don't disagree with the comments here, but - especially in a large organization - think about it from a managers situation, and think about how encouraging opacity in the organization can be detrimental.   

I get that, but if I were applying for an external position, my boss wouldn't know until I put in my resignation. Somewhere in the middle of the two extremes seems best to me.

Maybe thats true.  I just think if I am the hiring manager, would I want to hire someone that's trying to secretly get away from his team within the same company?  Everyone knows if you are looking outside that you can expect your current employer doesn't know, but within the same company wouldn't your hiring manager want to know what's going on and out of respect for your current manager, if you want to transfer within the company, wouldn't it be best to not burn a bridge by keeping them in the dark? 

I don't know, I see both sides and maybe there's a better system than full blown one way or the other.

[Stadler]

I don't disagree with the comments here, but - especially in a large organization - think about it from a managers situation, and think about how encouraging opacity in the organization can be detrimental.   

I get that, but if I were applying for an external position, my boss wouldn't know until I put in my resignation. Somewhere in the middle of the two extremes seems best to me.

Don't disagree; maybe have notice go to the HR manager of the group and not the supervisor.   I've been lucky; I worked for a company that not only encouraged this type of movement but rewarded their managers for "growing" talent (so it was in my best interest to tell my manager). 

[lordxizor]

Even if the current boss wasn't notified until the very end, the advantage of a move within the company is that the current and new boss can work out a transition plan over the next several weeks instead it being a hard cut off two weeks from now. I honestly don't see what good can come out of telling your current boss right away when you apply for a different job. Though I'm not a manager so I don't see it from their perspective.

Maybe it's just me, but I am more likely to look for jobs outside of my company rather than within because of this rule.

[jingle.boy]

This kind of practice isn't uncommon.  A good manager will (should!) put your professional goals ahead of their own.  If they don't, you have a shitty manager, so who cares if they are notified?  I talked with a manager once about this kind of situation, and he was 100% behind me to go for it.  Any other reaction is an indication of someone who shouldn't be a manager of people.

If it were me, I'd talk to your manager first, and have them hear it from you directly, along with the reasons why you're looking at another position.

[Evermind]

Having to dodge bikers when walking down the sidewalk. Where I live it seems to be commonly accepted to bike on sidewalks and the excuse I have heard the most is that they do it because the bike roads are sometimes made of cobblestone which is hard to ride a bike on. So you choose to ride a bike, but you will put others' safety at stake because you don't feel safe on your designated lane? I wouldn't even mind if they did it carefully, slowing down when nearing and/or passing by a pedestrian, but these people more often than not go full speed and don't look out for pedestrians at all. Every day when I'm walking to work I have to be on the lookout for bikes flying by to prevent getting bumped into. It's mostly how they act like they're in the right and everyone has to step aside for them even though they are on the wrong lane.. ugh

*end of rant*

Wait, is it about Berlin or Netherlands? Because I've never saw anyone biking on sidewalks during my 10-days stay in Rotterdam. Everyone used the bike roads.

I frequently bike to work from April to end of October if weather is alright (did that today too), and as there are no designated bike roads (we have them in the center of our city and in the parks, and everyone ignores the latter ones), I usually use the actual road for cars. However, sometimes it's just not really safe to use the car roads - we have a speed limit of 60 kmph, except you get the ticket only if you went over 80 kmph, 60-80 is just a verbal warning and no one cares about that so effectively the speed limit is 80 kmph.

So, well, sometimes I have to use the sidewalks, but I never go faster than the pedestrians if I don't have enough room to pass. I'll get off the bike if necessary. I've never used the, uh, bicycle bell (is that how it's called?) in three years of using those rental bikes. That's just idiotic. I'm on the road for pedestrians, I'm a guest here, I have to accommodate to them, not the other way around. However, about 8 cyclists out of 10 do what you just described. So people just lump every cyclist on the sidewalk in the 'asshole' category.

Also, the 'cobblestones' excuse? Not safe? That's utter bullshit. Not comfortable, yeah, sure, but that's it. They should see the roads' condition here in Moscow.

[King Postwhore]

This kind of practice isn't uncommon.  A good manager will (should!) put your professional goals ahead of their own.  If they don't, you have a shitty manager, so who cares if they are notified?  I talked with a manager once about this kind of situation, and he was 100% behind me to go for it.  Any other reaction is an indication of someone who shouldn't be a manager of people.

If it were me, I'd talk to your manager first, and have them hear it from you directly, along with the reasons why you're looking at another position.

Exactly, never get in the way of an employee's growth.  Nurture them to better your site as well as well the company.

[Cool Chris]

bike roads.

Yes let's please add "bike roads" to the list, especially when they cost $12 million dollars per mile.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/12-million-per-mile-for-a-bike-lane-that-should-trigger-a-civic-heart-attack/

And let's go ahead and add poor planning, poor budgeting, or just plain flat out lying to your constituents.

Bike lanes that voters were told would cost about $860,000 per mile were actually clocking in at an eye-watering $12 million per mile.

I usually use the actual road for cars. However, sometimes it's just not really safe to use the car roads...

Of course it's not. They are for cars, not bikes. Don't ride your bike on them. Bikers here will tell you that cars are the problem though, cars that are on the roads that they were designed and built for.

[Adami]

860,000 to 12 million?

Not seeing the big deal, clearly they just rounded up a bit for the final price. 

[Evermind]

Of course it's not. They are for cars, not bikes. Don't ride your bike on them.

Yeah, sure, man. However, the traffic rules in our country are clear-cut saying that the cyclists should use the car roads as a priority because the cyclists are part of the traffic. I love that "of course" though.

I would understand that argument if I owned a bicycle, like, you know, why the fuck I bought it if I have nowhere to cycle on? However, I'm using official city rental bikes. So the city basically wants me to use it, and by the rules, I have to use the car roads.

Basically, ITT: I'm doing what I can to make life comfortable for both drivers and pedestrians and just venting about the mildly irritating state of our city and cyclist assholes, and still get called out about it. I'm just going to get the fuck out of here. Dennis, if you feel like responding to that earlier post, my PM is open.

[Cool Chris]

"Use the car roads as a priority" meaning prioritizing bikes using the roads over sidewalks, or having bikes as a priority over cars on the road?

I apologize if I sounded harsh (but this is the mildly irritating thread, aren't allowed a little leeway? ) I appreciate your courtesy as you described, and wish other bicyclists acted similarly. I should have quoted that part and not emphasized my disdain for a mentality you are working against as well.

[Stadler]

This kind of practice isn't uncommon.  A good manager will (should!) put your professional goals ahead of their own.  If they don't, you have a shitty manager, so who cares if they are notified?  I talked with a manager once about this kind of situation, and he was 100% behind me to go for it.  Any other reaction is an indication of someone who shouldn't be a manager of people.

If it were me, I'd talk to your manager first, and have them hear it from you directly, along with the reasons why you're looking at another position.

This.   You're all on the same team, and any manager that expects you do to the same job for the same manager for the rest of your career is the one who should be looked at closer, not you.