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Offline Johnny99

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Found another nugget in Octavarium
« on: January 23, 2017, 11:29:08 AM »
Thought I'd share this with you, since I noticed this a while ago yet haven't found anything about it on the internet, despite there being several cool articles about the many nuggets/references within Octavarium.

The reference is the release date of the album (and, of course, the song): 7 June. June being the 6th month of the year, this is the 7th of the 6th, or 6/7. Given that one of the central themes of Octavarium are the numbers 5 and 8, and the numbers between 5 and 8 are (obviously) 6 and 7, this could be another reference as to how we are "trapped inside this Octavarium", so to speak.

I don't know whether this is entirely coincidental or just another reference in Octavarium that has gone unnoticed, but I thought it was really cool so I decided to share it with you.

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2017, 12:57:12 PM »
oh god, not the nuggets. NOT THE NUGGETS!!!!


(you also forgot that the year was 5)

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2017, 03:06:23 PM »
TRAPPED. INSIDE. THIS. NUGGETARIUM!!!!!
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2017, 06:02:37 PM »
That's pretty cool. Have you also noticed this with the track listing:

The Root Of All Evil
The Answer Lies Within
These Walls

The first three letters make up TTT, so this means DT wants us to take the time to listen to the album.

And if you take the first letter of EVERY song, you get  'tttipnso' . Which is an anagram of Pittston, a city in Pennsylvania. A city with a population of 7,739. Maybe one of the band members lived there at one point and felt trapped (the number 7 indicating the feeling of 'trapped-ness' between 5 and 8.
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2017, 06:04:44 PM »
That's pretty cool. Have you also noticed this with the track listing:

The Root Of All Evil
The Answer Lies Within
These Walls

The first three letters make up TTT, so this means DT wants us to take the time to listen to the album.

wow you linking those three awesome songs to an abomination like Take The Time just completely ruined them for me





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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2017, 06:35:09 PM »
And if you take the first letter of EVERY song, you get  'tttipnso' . Which is an anagram of Pittston, a city in Pennsylvania. A city with a population of 7,739. Maybe one of the band members lived there at one point and felt trapped (the number 7 indicating the feeling of 'trapped-ness' between 5 and 8.

7+7+3+9=26
2+6=8
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2017, 09:54:45 AM »
That's pretty cool. Have you also noticed this with the track listing:

The Root Of All Evil
The Answer Lies Within
These Walls

The first three letters make up TTT, so this means DT wants us to take the time to listen to the album.

And if you take the first letter of EVERY song, you get  'tttipnso' . Which is an anagram of Pittston, a city in Pennsylvania. A city with a population of 7,739. Maybe one of the band members lived there at one point and felt trapped (the number 7 indicating the feeling of 'trapped-ness' between 5 and 8.


Wow man. . . that is deep.    and to quote the Oscar winning Revenge of the Nerds II,   "what if C-A-T  really spelled dog?"
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2017, 09:57:26 AM »
These are what I like to call alternative nuggets.
Only King could mis-spell a LETTER.
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2017, 10:25:39 AM »
These are what I like to call alternative nuggets.

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2017, 10:41:11 AM »
:omg:

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2017, 10:46:31 AM »
And 'Octavarium' is an anagram of 'Avaticorum', which is so freaking secretive, Google translate can't even translate its Wikipedia page.

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2017, 01:02:57 PM »
On the front cover of The Astonishing - there are EIGHT Nomacs.

There are also FIVE Nomac "tracks" on the album.


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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2017, 01:09:45 PM »
And the nomacs just make noise, just like the beginning of Ocatavarium! Fucking NUGGETZZ!

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2017, 01:10:46 PM »
And Originally the Nomacs on the cover of The Astonishing were all the same size so JP told the artist to "VARY 'EM"

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2017, 01:38:56 PM »
And Originally the Nomacs on the cover of The Astonishing were all the same size so JP told the artist to "VARY 'EM"


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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2017, 02:03:33 PM »
That's a nice shoop.  The grass especially looks very real.

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2017, 02:49:12 PM »
And Originally the Nomacs on the cover of The Astonishing were all the same size so JP told the artist to "VARY 'EM"


 :omg:

:lol

That made me laugh pretty damn hard

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2017, 03:02:16 PM »
Nice subtle use of the SFAM artwork too, I'd consider that a nugget
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2017, 03:10:48 PM »
That's golden  :rollin

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2017, 03:17:45 PM »
Nice subtle use of the SFAM artwork too, I'd consider that a nugget

Yes.

Also SFAM is album 5 and Octavarium is album 8 = 8 + 5 = 13 . TA was album 13 :dangerwillrobinson:

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2017, 03:27:15 PM »
OMG NO
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2017, 03:30:58 PM »
Nice subtle use of the SFAM artwork too, I'd consider that a nugget

Whoa, I didn't realize that that's what was going on with the grass, but now I see it.

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2017, 04:28:33 PM »
These are what I like to call alternative nuggets.
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2017, 12:46:06 AM »
And Originally the Nomacs on the cover of The Astonishing were all the same size so JP told the artist he "ought to VARY 'EM"

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2017, 02:49:34 AM »
Haha :D

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2017, 10:20:16 AM »
I only realised today that it's not Raven skill. It's Ravens kill. Little nugget of info.
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2017, 10:39:26 AM »
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2017, 11:50:18 AM »
I only realised today that it's not Raven skill. It's Ravens kill. Little nugget of info.
It's Ravenskill.  One word.
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2017, 11:56:35 AM »
I only realised today that it's not Raven skill. It's Ravens kill. Little nugget of info.
It's Ravenskill.  One word.
Not any more than the second disc of SDoIT is one song. Oh wait....
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2017, 01:35:32 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2017, 02:06:47 PM »
I only realised today that it's not Raven skill. It's Ravens kill. Little nugget of info.
It's Ravenskill.  One word.

True, but it's a compound word.  The question is how to identify the individual components.

Kinda like how "nowhere" usually means "no where" but could also mean "now here".

Okay, maybe not.

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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2017, 02:08:12 PM »
It's Rave N' Skill.

The place is basically a 24/7 glow stick/dubstep party.
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2017, 01:14:33 AM »
It's Rave N' Skill.

The place is basically a 24/7 glow stick/dubstep party.

Did you know "Eat Sleep Rave Repeat" is a hidden bonus track on The Astonishing? 😂

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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2017, 08:36:24 AM »
It's Rave N' Skill.

The place is basically a 24/7 glow stick/dubstep party.

Did you know "Eat Sleep Rave Repeat" is a hidden bonus track on The Astonishing? 😂

Eat Sleep Rave Repeat has five syllables and eight vowels. NUGGETS!
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Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2017, 09:13:53 AM »
What's really surprising is that The Astonishing contains all the exact same notes used in Octavarium, just in different places.
Jordan took Moore's boring, pedestrian parts and elevated them considerably to take them from barely palatable to stellar.