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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2017, 11:48:24 AM »
Not sure using HuffPo as your example is a great idea  :lol

I mean, I read some of their articles, but they aren't "journalism" like ABC, CBS, NBC, or even CNN or Fox News.  ALL of which (yes, even Fox) decried the idiocy spewed by Sean Spicer about the size of the inauguration crowd and the stupid "alternate facts" nonsense brought out by Kellyanne Conway.

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2017, 08:12:17 AM »

   
@realDonaldTrump February 7, 2017

"I don't know Putin, have no deals in Russia, and the haters are going crazy - yet Obama can make a deal with Iran, #1 in terror, no problem!"


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"Yes, a long time ago," Trump said. "[Putin and I] got along great, by the way."

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Trump declared, I do have a relationship and I can tell you that hes very interested in what were doing here today Hes probably very interested in what you and I am saying today, and Im sure hes going to be seeing it in some form."

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"Putin has big plans for Russia. He wants to edge out its neighbors so that Russia can dominate oil supplies to all of Europe," Trump said. "I respect Putin and Russians but cannot believe our leader (Obama) allows them to get away with so much...Hats off to the Russians. Will he become my new best friend?" Trump asked of Putin in a tweet wondering whether Putin would attend the 2013 Miss Universe pageant Trump brought to Moscow. I think I'd get along very well with Vladimir Putin. I just think so,"

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-quotes/


Trump said of the letter: "A very nice letter from Vladimir Putin; his thoughts are so correct. I hope both sides are able to live up to these thoughts, and we do not have to travel an alternate path.

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"If he says great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him," the Republican nominee said. "I've already said he is very much of a leader. The man has very strong control over his country

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"You know, I was in Moscow a couple of months ago. I own the Miss Universe Pageant and they treated me so great. Putin even sent me a present, a beautiful present."

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2014/03/06/donald-trump-peppers-cpac-speeches-with-humblebrags


"Russia does not respect our country any longer. They see we've been greatly weakened, both militarily and otherwise, and he certainly does not respect President Obama. So what I would doas an example, I own Miss Universe, I was in Russia, I was in Moscow recently and I spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin, who could not have been nicer, and we had a tremendous success. The show was live from Moscow, and we had tremendous success there and it was amazing, but to do well, you have to get the other side to respect you, and he does not respect our president, which is very sad."

http://www.press.org/events/npc-luncheon-donald-trump-chairman-and-president-trump-organization


"As far as the Ukraine is concerned if Putin wants to go in -- and I got to know him very well because we were both on 60 Minutes. We were stablemates, and we did very well that night."

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2017, 09:34:11 AM »
Not sure using HuffPo as your example is a great idea  :lol

I mean, I read some of their articles, but they aren't "journalism" like ABC, CBS, NBC, or even CNN or Fox News.  ALL of which (yes, even Fox) decried the idiocy spewed by Sean Spicer about the size of the inauguration crowd and the stupid "alternate facts" nonsense brought out by Kellyanne Conway.

Honestly?  Fox News has been REMARKABLY fair in this whole proceeding.  Yeah, you've still got Sean "Can I wipe your balls now, Mr. President?" Hannity, but Shep Smith is a veritable Walter Cronkite for the twenty tens on there.   He calls bullshit on something Trump's done about twice a day.    Hell, even the greatest show on the planet, "Outnumbered" is starting to make Meghan McCain look like a raving lunatic, it's moving so far to the center.   

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #73 on: February 15, 2017, 05:59:31 AM »
Spoken like a true president.

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Feb 15, 2017 07:28:37 AM - Thank you to Eli Lake of The Bloomberg View - "The NSA & FBI...should not interfere in our politics...and is" Very serious situation for USA

Feb 15, 2017 07:19:18 AM - Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & @washingtonpost by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?).Just like Russia

Feb 15, 2017 07:08:12 AM - This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton's losing campaign.

Feb 15, 2017 06:40:32 AM - The fake news media is going crazy with their conspiracy theories and blind hatred. @MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable. @foxandfriends is great!
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #74 on: February 15, 2017, 06:03:21 AM »
This dude is unbelievably incompetent and childish.
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #75 on: February 17, 2017, 06:02:29 PM »
@realdonaldtrump

"Feb 17, 2017 04:48:22 PM - The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!"

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #76 on: February 17, 2017, 06:05:55 PM »
My favorite part is that the original tweet included less news organizations, but he deleted it to add more.

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #77 on: February 17, 2017, 08:24:25 PM »
So, curious question... does naming a particular person or organization as an Enemy of the State mean or change anything legally?

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #78 on: February 17, 2017, 10:26:25 PM »
So, curious question... does naming a particular person or organization as an Enemy of the State mean or change anything legally?

I believe he said "the enemy of the American people", not "Enemy of the State", but either way there is no legal ramification.  Just a credibility ramification.  :)

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #79 on: February 17, 2017, 10:30:55 PM »
So, curious question... does naming a particular person or organization as an Enemy of the State mean or change anything legally?

Just a credibility ramification.  :)

For whom? Honest question.
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #80 on: February 17, 2017, 10:36:23 PM »
So, curious question... does naming a particular person or organization as an Enemy of the State mean or change anything legally?

Just a credibility ramification.  :)

For whom? Honest question.

Trump.   I believe in the media bias as much as anyone, but it's not the MEDIA that is the enemy of the American people, it's the PEOPLE who don't put in the work.   That's ultimately where the problem lies.   That's why I spend so much time asking people to be fair and do their homework.  Stop with the hyperbole. 

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #81 on: February 18, 2017, 03:07:25 AM »
So, curious question... does naming a particular person or organization as an Enemy of the State mean or change anything legally?
I've actually been wondering whether some of these publications that he insists on naming can sue him for libel or whatever similar laws you have over in the US.

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #82 on: February 18, 2017, 08:02:32 AM »
So, curious question... does naming a particular person or organization as an Enemy of the State mean or change anything legally?
I've actually been wondering whether some of these publications that he insists on naming can sue him for libel or whatever similar laws you have over in the US.

Thats one of the reasons I asked...
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/17/515760101/when-a-politician-says-fake-news-and-a-newspaper-threatens-to-sue-back?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170217


Also wondering if they are labeled as enemy of the state, if they can be shut down or investigated without certain legal restrictions.

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2017, 11:29:01 AM »
Mar 13, 2017 07:52:29 AM - It is amazing how rude much of the media is to my very hard working representatives. Be nice, you will do much better!


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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2017, 11:53:58 AM »
SAD!

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #85 on: March 15, 2017, 07:48:51 AM »
http://www.cc.com/shows/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah/third-month-mania

Get on it people.  March Madness to determine Trump's greatest tweet of all time.
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2017, 11:54:37 AM »
http://www.cc.com/shows/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah/third-month-mania

Get on it people.  March Madness to determine Trump's greatest tweet of all time.
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2017, 02:04:32 PM »
"I never fall for scams. I am the only person who walked out of my 'Ali G' interview"

Oh my god. :rollin

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2017, 06:15:23 PM »
"I never fall for scams. I am the only person who walked out of my 'Ali G' interview"

Oh my god. :rollin

I think Gingrich did too.

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #89 on: March 16, 2017, 08:02:39 AM »
 :lol Ali G was awesome

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« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2017, 09:37:30 AM »
:lol Ali G was awesome

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #92 on: March 21, 2017, 08:35:25 AM »
:corn :corn :corn

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2017, 06:48:19 PM »
Trump is this country's biggest snowflake. If this didn't get under his skin, he'd be ignoring it.

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« Reply #96 on: April 17, 2017, 03:11:36 AM »
Trump is this country's biggest snowflake. If this didn't get under his skin, he'd be ignoring it.

Wonder how often he "grabs" himself?
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #97 on: May 12, 2017, 07:39:05 AM »
May 12, 2017 07:07:36 AM - ...Maybe the best thing to do would be to cancel all future "press briefings" and hand out written responses for the sake of accuracy???

Yep. Definitely sounds like something the greatest nation on Earth would do... you take what your leader says at face value and as absolute truth.

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« Reply #98 on: May 12, 2017, 08:43:52 AM »
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-investigation-tax-day-protesters-tweets-election-over-n747101

That article seems to have been written by a 16-year-old.  In fact, I showed it to my 16-year-old and even SHE was embarrassed by it.    What legit news piece editorializes something like "President Donald Trump on Twitter Sunday lashed out against citizens who'd taken to the streets to exercise their First Amendment rights."   That is not at all what he lashed out against.    And ironically, what he lashed out against is probably worse than what this noob said, so why extemporize?   

And this:  "But a poll from the Pew Research Center in January found that more than two-thirds of all Americans believe the president has an obligation to release his tax returns."  And this, with no explanation or context; this statement says NOTHING about Trump, and only that 2/3 of Americans are dumbasses (he has no "obligation" to release his taxes, and neither did any other of the "nearly all major presidential candidates" that released them "since the 1970s".   Let's just continue to attack Trump and fuck all if the facts are right.  We're journalists, we don't have to be CORRECT, we just need to get our OPINIONS OUT THERE!   

And lest people start banging the "There goes Stadler! Supporting Trump again!", let me say that since I don't see what the big deal is - the top two pages of the 1040 don't tell you jack scratch (as we've seen from the two previous Trump tax returns we've seen) - I'm indifferent on the issue.  I can see why he should (shut everyone up once and for all and make them look as incompetent as they are), and I can see why he shouldn't (because it's meaningless, it's a charade, and if you're "draining the swamp" you presumably don't participate in charades).   What I can't figure out is why the story morphs so much.  Just say "Yes" or "No" and be done with it.     

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #99 on: May 12, 2017, 09:50:28 AM »
I can see your point on this poll - you're absolutely right... he has no "obligation" to release them.  However, my personal interpretation is that the intent of the poll is one to guage opinion, and 2/3 of Americans believe he should release them - ie, a moral obligation to his citizens.  It's likely that some of that group DO actually believe there is an actual obligation, but I highly doubt all of them do.
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #100 on: May 12, 2017, 02:24:32 PM »
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-investigation-tax-day-protesters-tweets-election-over-n747101

That article seems to have been written by a 16-year-old.  In fact, I showed it to my 16-year-old and even SHE was embarrassed by it.    What legit news piece editorializes something like "President Donald Trump on Twitter Sunday lashed out against citizens who'd taken to the streets to exercise their First Amendment rights."   That is not at all what he lashed out against.    And ironically, what he lashed out against is probably worse than what this noob said, so why extemporize?   

And this:  "But a poll from the Pew Research Center in January found that more than two-thirds of all Americans believe the president has an obligation to release his tax returns."  And this, with no explanation or context; this statement says NOTHING about Trump, and only that 2/3 of Americans are dumbasses (he has no "obligation" to release his taxes, and neither did any other of the "nearly all major presidential candidates" that released them "since the 1970s".   Let's just continue to attack Trump and fuck all if the facts are right.  We're journalists, we don't have to be CORRECT, we just need to get our OPINIONS OUT THERE!   

And lest people start banging the "There goes Stadler! Supporting Trump again!", let me say that since I don't see what the big deal is - the top two pages of the 1040 don't tell you jack scratch (as we've seen from the two previous Trump tax returns we've seen) - I'm indifferent on the issue.  I can see why he should (shut everyone up once and for all and make them look as incompetent as they are), and I can see why he shouldn't (because it's meaningless, it's a charade, and if you're "draining the swamp" you presumably don't participate in charades).   What I can't figure out is why the story morphs so much.  Just say "Yes" or "No" and be done with it.   

Jingle covered most of my thoughts about it. However, regardless of your opinion of the quality of the article, his assertion that people should be investigated for excersizing their constitutional rights to peacefully protest is alarming to say the least. You and I are probably the most vocal representatives of Libertarianism in this forum even if we are at the extremes from one another in that particular realm of thought. I'd think that we could both agree that any sitting president that would openly attack those rights deserves a great deal of critisism that comes his way.
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #101 on: May 15, 2017, 10:15:50 AM »
I can see your point on this poll - you're absolutely right... he has no "obligation" to release them.  However, my personal interpretation is that the intent of the poll is one to guage opinion, and 2/3 of Americans believe he should release them - ie, a moral obligation to his citizens.  It's likely that some of that group DO actually believe there is an actual obligation, but I highly doubt all of them do.

I don't disagree with any of what you say, but I am bothered by the degree to which we are getting careless in our zeal to castigate this - or any - President.  The PRESS should know the difference and should ask the right question.   I grant you that people may have differing opinions/ideas/interpretations, but the PRESS should not.  They are professionals, they deal in "words", they should know what they mean and use them correctly.  They should have no vested interest in using certain words in certain ways to elicit certain responses.   

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« Reply #102 on: May 15, 2017, 10:19:10 AM »
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-investigation-tax-day-protesters-tweets-election-over-n747101

That article seems to have been written by a 16-year-old.  In fact, I showed it to my 16-year-old and even SHE was embarrassed by it.    What legit news piece editorializes something like "President Donald Trump on Twitter Sunday lashed out against citizens who'd taken to the streets to exercise their First Amendment rights."   That is not at all what he lashed out against.    And ironically, what he lashed out against is probably worse than what this noob said, so why extemporize?   

And this:  "But a poll from the Pew Research Center in January found that more than two-thirds of all Americans believe the president has an obligation to release his tax returns."  And this, with no explanation or context; this statement says NOTHING about Trump, and only that 2/3 of Americans are dumbasses (he has no "obligation" to release his taxes, and neither did any other of the "nearly all major presidential candidates" that released them "since the 1970s".   Let's just continue to attack Trump and fuck all if the facts are right.  We're journalists, we don't have to be CORRECT, we just need to get our OPINIONS OUT THERE!   

And lest people start banging the "There goes Stadler! Supporting Trump again!", let me say that since I don't see what the big deal is - the top two pages of the 1040 don't tell you jack scratch (as we've seen from the two previous Trump tax returns we've seen) - I'm indifferent on the issue.  I can see why he should (shut everyone up once and for all and make them look as incompetent as they are), and I can see why he shouldn't (because it's meaningless, it's a charade, and if you're "draining the swamp" you presumably don't participate in charades).   What I can't figure out is why the story morphs so much.  Just say "Yes" or "No" and be done with it.   

Jingle covered most of my thoughts about it. However, regardless of your opinion of the quality of the article, his assertion that people should be investigated for excersizing their constitutional rights to peacefully protest is alarming to say the least. You and I are probably the most vocal representatives of Libertarianism in this forum even if we are at the extremes from one another in that particular realm of thought. I'd think that we could both agree that any sitting president that would openly attack those rights deserves a great deal of critisism that comes his way.

I agree with you 1000% philosophically, but that's not at all what is happening. He's NOT demanding that they be investigated for exercising their First Amendment rights. He's saying - rightly or wrongly - that it is NOT actually a free speech demonstration, but rather an organized rally using paid participants.  I suppose you can argue that the person/entity that is funding it is expressing their free speech rights, but I don't think it's untoward to demand a full explanation of the rally.  A "rally" implies that all those people are zealous enough (in a good way) to make their presence felt.  If that's not the case, and it's really just one very wealthy person with an opinion, that is fair information to know. 

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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #103 on: May 15, 2017, 10:20:31 AM »
I can see your point on this poll - you're absolutely right... he has no "obligation" to release them.  However, my personal interpretation is that the intent of the poll is one to guage opinion, and 2/3 of Americans believe he should release them - ie, a moral obligation to his citizens.  It's likely that some of that group DO actually believe there is an actual obligation, but I highly doubt all of them do.

I don't disagree with any of what you say, but I am bothered by the degree to which we are getting careless in our zeal to castigate this - or any - President.  The PRESS should know the difference and should ask the right question.   I grant you that people may have differing opinions/ideas/interpretations, but the PRESS should not.  They are professionals, they deal in "words", they should know what they mean and use them correctly.  They should have no vested interest in using certain words in certain ways to elicit certain responses.

Well then you're getting into the question as to why the press has more interest in sensationalism and less in cold-hard reporting. For that, I blame capitalism and the fact that sensationalism sells a lot, causing the press to move toward that direction to stay alive.

In an ideal world though, the press should be totally unbias. But in our world, it will never happen.
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Re: Trump Tweets (sorry Stadler)
« Reply #104 on: May 15, 2017, 10:27:54 AM »
I can see your point on this poll - you're absolutely right... he has no "obligation" to release them.  However, my personal interpretation is that the intent of the poll is one to guage opinion, and 2/3 of Americans believe he should release them - ie, a moral obligation to his citizens.  It's likely that some of that group DO actually believe there is an actual obligation, but I highly doubt all of them do.

I don't disagree with any of what you say, but I am bothered by the degree to which we are getting careless in our zeal to castigate this - or any - President.  The PRESS should know the difference and should ask the right question.   I grant you that people may have differing opinions/ideas/interpretations, but the PRESS should not.  They are professionals, they deal in "words", they should know what they mean and use them correctly.  They should have no vested interest in using certain words in certain ways to elicit certain responses.


Well then you're getting into the question as to why the press has more interest in sensationalism and less in cold-hard reporting. For that, I blame capitalism and the fact that sensationalism sells a lot, causing the press to move toward that direction to stay alive.

In an ideal world though, the press should be totally unbias. But in our world, it will never happen.

I'm a devout capitalist, but I'm not entirely sure it's solely capitalism.   
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